US lawmakers want a ban ZTE and Huawei smartphones and routers

Hilbert Hagedoorn

it seems that ZTE and Huawei may have backdoors, enabling China to spy on US communications. The U.S. House of Representatives' Intelligence Committee calls for a ban on smartphones and routers from ...

US lawmakers want a ban ZTE and Huawei smartphones and routers

lucidus · 10-09-2012, 08:10 | posts: 3,536 | Location: UAE

So ... it's okay for the USA to spy but not China? It's not cool that they do in the first place but still

(.)(.) · 10-09-2012, 08:12 | posts: 2,353 | Location: Logd n jst 2 change avatar

The US doesn't spy it just observes.

lucidus · 10-09-2012, 08:17 | posts: 3,536 | Location: UAE

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The US doesn't spy it just observes.

So they're peeping toms?

(.)(.) · 10-09-2012, 08:46 | posts: 2,353 | Location: Logd n jst 2 change avatar

No no just curious is all, but as we all know curiosity killed the cat and we can see that in how American citizens rights are slowly disappearing. Ahh America.

PCElite · 10-09-2012, 09:08 | posts: 248

U S A U S A U S A but like in every other war there are just losers

(.)(.) · 10-09-2012, 09:17 | posts: 2,353 | Location: Logd n jst 2 change avatar

The Germans didnt lose they just found other ventures to occupy their time with...Like Oktoberfest.

Size_Mick · **Memory**: 2GBx2 DDR2@1066 5-5-5-15

Funny, I just ordered a Huawei tablet! Hope the chinese don't use the built-in spy app to watch me taking a dump!

Seriously, though, the problem seems to be that the gov't position is that the companies didn't provide enough transparency or documentation and were uncooperative, while the companies' position is that they have a proven track record in other countries and that there is no evidence that any such spy stuff is built in. I see both points, but since most of our electronics are already made in china, I don't see how it could be any bigger a threat than anything else made there. Anyhow, they could always pass a law that says that gov't agencies can't use those brands of electronics if they're so worried.

On a side note, I finally know that Huawei is pronounced "hwa way"!

fearsjohn · 10-09-2012, 14:17 | posts: 1,282 | Location: atlanta, ga

what difference does it make everything in America is made in China. our military i think consist of 30-40% of its stuff made in china. all of apples crap is made in china. not like it matters

The_Fool · 10-09-2012, 16:46 | posts: 1,003 | Location: Tiny Town in USA

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Originally Posted by PCElite

U S A U S A U S A but like in every other war there are just losers

What does this have to do with smartphones and routers?

mmicrosysm · 10-09-2012, 17:19 | posts: 606 | Location: Box

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Originally Posted by fearsjohn

what difference does it make everything in America is made in China. our military i think consist of 30-40% of its stuff made in china. all of apples crap is made in china. not like it matters

Yep, who knows what little hidden easter eggs China has in place in some of those devices.

Stukov · 10-09-2012, 17:38 | posts: 4,838 | Location: South Dakota

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U S A U S A U S A but like in every other war there are just losers

I'm getting really tired of people posting such OT nonsense, we had a NEWS thread locked the other day. Please learn to control yourself.

tsunami231 · 10-09-2012, 17:43 | posts: 2,368 | Location: USA

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Originally Posted by Hilbert Hagedoorn

it seems that ZTE and Huawei may have backdoors, enabling China to spy on US communications. The U.S. House of Representatives' Intelligence Committee calls for a ban on smartphones and routers from ...

US lawmakers want a ban ZTE and Huawei smartphones and routers

Never heard of these people, Though I would like to put ban on our government for spending our money on stupid **** and other country, that is putting our country in debit to that certain country that is loaning us that money. While we at it can we get ban on apple suing for stupid generic **** too? haha

Brasky · *Last edited by Brasky; 10-09-2012 at 18:50.*

It's because the chinese government is allowed to "compel" the companies to provide sensitive data about the systems/technology that is being used. If the companies were fully private and able to operate without the threat of the chinese government then it would be less of a problem.

When in doubt, buy local. at least then you can hold people accountable.

sykozis · 10-09-2012, 22:28 | posts: 13,630 | Location: US East Coast

This has nothing to do with security.... It's all about the election.... Republicans are trying to redirect attention elsewhere in an attempt to take people's attention off Romney and his own self-destructive comments...and instead get people thinking that their party is really looking out for everyone's best interest (though the tax reforms they want say otherwise)....

Brasky · 10-09-2012, 23:16 | posts: 1,326 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

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Originally Posted by sykozis

This has nothing to do with security.... It's all about the election.... Republicans are trying to redirect attention elsewhere in an attempt to take people's attention off Romney and his own self-destructive comments...and instead get people thinking that their party is really looking out for everyone's best interest (though the tax reforms they want say otherwise)....

yeah, that's it.

it was a bi partisan committee that has been working on this for over a year....
i hope obama is reelected and then he creates SOMA (Brave New World by Aldous Huxley) so i can be as blissfully ignorant/retarded as the rest of you.

Sprig · 10-09-2012, 23:40 | posts: 223 | Location: Wellington, NZ

Can Cisco prove that it is not a front for the CIA?

KCjoker · 10-10-2012, 00:15 | posts: 2,538 | Location: Kansas City, Mo

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Originally Posted by sykozis

This has nothing to do with security.... It's all about the election.... Republicans are trying to redirect attention elsewhere in an attempt to take people's attention off Romney and his own self-destructive comments...and instead get people thinking that their party is really looking out for everyone's best interest (though the tax reforms they want say otherwise)....

LOL...you actually believe that.

EspHack · 10-10-2012, 00:24 | posts: 1,593

hurray!

sykozis · 10-10-2012, 00:24 | posts: 13,630 | Location: US East Coast

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LOL...you actually believe that.

Which part are you referring to?

MrBozack · 10-10-2012, 00:30 | posts: 670 | Location: East Anglia

I love my little Huawei. If it does have a backdoor to China - well, tough guff really.

It's not like Google, Facebook and other intelligence fronts aren't monitoring us. Even LulzSec was reported to have FBI involvement.

I'm sure there are Yottabytes of cached information on all of us.

Finchwizard

I've seen this before they've had real issues with Huawei.

It's a bit of a joke considering how much data Google and Facebook alone have on people. Yet nothing like MrBozack said. Never gets a second look.

Considering if the US government decides to say. Give me info on <X>. They will be quite happy to oblige because it's For the Greater good of the country.

And let us not forget about Echelon. *Wink wink*

vbetts · 10-10-2012, 21:50 | posts: 10,247 | Location: Toledo Ohio

Surprised the carriers aren't defending ZTE, sprint has a few handsets from them, AT&T has like 1 or 2, so does tmobile, and Verizon's jet pack is ZTE.

Brasky · 10-10-2012, 23:10 | posts: 1,326 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

it's not an outright ban on the products, it's to not award them with government contracts.

Sprig · 10-10-2012, 23:25 | posts: 223 | Location: Wellington, NZ

US in trade protection shocker. Queue surprise.

US has no interest in playing on a level playing field with the rest of the world.