Guru3D.com Forums

Go Back   Guru3D.com Forums > General Chat > Frontpage news
Frontpage news Perhaps you have some news to report or want to check out the latest Guru3D headlines and comment ? Check it in here.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Anti-Downloading Law Hits Japan, Up To 2 Years in Prison
Old
  (#1)
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Don Vito Corleone
 
Hilbert Hagedoorn's Avatar
 
Videocard: AMD | NVIDIA
Processor: Core i7 2600K
Mainboard: P67
Memory: 8GB
Soundcard: X-Fi - GigaWorks 7.1
PSU: 1200 Watt
Default Anti-Downloading Law Hits Japan, Up To 2 Years in Prison - 10-02-2012, 08:20 | posts: 16,946 | Location: Guru3D testlab

A few hours ago Japan introduced new anti-piracy legislation designed to clamp down on illegal file-sharing. The regime is one of the most draconian in the world. In most countries users are only targ...

Anti-Downloading Law Hits Japan, Up To 2 Years in Prison
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#2)
sverek
Maha Guru
 
sverek's Avatar
 
Videocard: XFX HD6870
Processor: i5 2500k @4.4Ghz
Mainboard: P8Z68-V
Memory: Corsair Ven. 8GB
Soundcard: Xonar DG
PSU: Corsair HX850
Default 10-02-2012, 08:29 | posts: 1,036 | Location: Japan, Soka

son of a ...
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3)
scatman839
Ancient Guru
 
scatman839's Avatar
 
Videocard: 7970m, UE46D5000
Processor: i7 3610QM
Mainboard: Intel HM77
Memory: 8GB DDR3
Soundcard: Via HD, x-530
PSU: 180w
Default 10-02-2012, 08:58 | posts: 8,739 | Location: Dundee, Scotland

I have seen many places, as well as locals telling me, that they won't be paying attention to streaming of videos though.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4)
PCElite
Master Guru
 
PCElite's Avatar
 
Videocard: Palit 285 1GB
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo
Mainboard:
Memory:
Soundcard:
PSU: 700
Default 10-02-2012, 09:10 | posts: 231

lol and they laugh at China
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#5)
Mikedogg
Banned
 
Videocard: Radeon HD 4650M 1GB
Processor: Intel Core i7 720QM
Mainboard: Dell studio 1747
Memory: 4GB DDR3
Soundcard: IDT JBL SRS Premium Sound
PSU: 130Watt Adapter
Default 10-02-2012, 09:15 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

Clamp down as much as you like, it ain't gonna stop it; barely slow it for that matter.

I'll just leave this here.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6)
kanej2007
Ancient Guru
 
kanej2007's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX 580 SLI 900/1800/4200
Processor: Intel Core i7 2600 4.7Ghz
Mainboard: ASUS P8Z68-VPro
Memory: 12Gb Corsair Vengeance C8
Soundcard: Asus Xonar D2X Ultra 7.1
PSU: Corsair 950W
Default 10-02-2012, 09:55 | posts: 5,700 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by sverek View Post
son of a ...
Poor old sverek.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7)
XBEAST
Maha Guru
 
Videocard: MSI GTX 460 768MB Cyclone
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K
Mainboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3
Memory: Patriot 12GB 1600MHz CL9
Soundcard: Creative Sound Core3D™
PSU: Seasonic S12II-620 Bronze
Default 10-02-2012, 09:56 | posts: 1,442 | Location: Unknown

Hopefully this laws hits US and EU as well.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#8)
Zboe
Master Guru
 
Zboe's Avatar
 
Videocard: GTX 570 SLI
Processor: 2600K @ 5Ghz
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 WS Revolution
Memory: 16GB Corsair VengeanceLP
Soundcard: Asus Xonar DX
PSU: PCP&C silencer mk II 950
Default 10-02-2012, 10:27 | posts: 531 | Location: USA

Quote:
Originally Posted by XBEAST View Post
Hopefully this laws hits US and EU as well.

So let make pirating a crime and fill our already over full jails with even more non violent offenders.

Prohibition in the U.S. failed, the war on drugs has been a failure for 40 years now. What makes you think the Government could fight pirates any better? I mean really...When are people like you going to realize that criminalizing BS like this does absolutely nothing and runs up more worthless Government spending in the process. You aren't solving a damn thing with legislation like this, instead your ripping families apart and putting more burden on taxpayers that cannot afford it.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#9)
Mikedogg
Banned
 
Videocard: Radeon HD 4650M 1GB
Processor: Intel Core i7 720QM
Mainboard: Dell studio 1747
Memory: 4GB DDR3
Soundcard: IDT JBL SRS Premium Sound
PSU: 130Watt Adapter
Default 10-02-2012, 10:30 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

^Spot on. Someone had to say it.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#10)
Brasky
Maha Guru
 
Brasky's Avatar
 
Videocard: EVGA 580 1.5Gb SLI
Processor: 2600k @ 4.6
Mainboard: Gigabyte Z68X UD7 B3
Memory: G-Skill Sniper 2133 16gb
Soundcard: Littering and...?
PSU: CORSAIR HX1050
Default 10-02-2012, 11:20 | posts: 1,296 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

Quote:
Originally Posted by XBEAST View Post
Hopefully this laws hits US and EU as well.
/sarcasm?
   
Reply With Quote
 
Old
  (#11)
zaeb
Banned
 
Videocard: MSI 450GTS 1024MB
Processor: Phenom 9650 @ 2.3
Mainboard: Gigabyte 520LE
Memory: DDR2 4GB @1066
Soundcard:
PSU: MS Industryal 550 wat
Default 10-02-2012, 12:34 | posts: 54 | Location: Serbia

how shell i put this. complitely retarded action that cant be more retarded. there r more presing concernes then catching ppl how r downloading pirated stuff like hunger. how many hunger ppl and children r in the world. might focus on that instead of getting the rich richer. ppl need to rise.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#12)
GeniusPr0
Master Guru
 
Videocard: GTX 680 SLI 2GB
Processor: Intel i7 3930K
Mainboard: Intel X79
Memory: 16GB DDR 1600 @ ????
Soundcard: Logitech Z-2300
PSU: Delta 875W
Default 10-02-2012, 12:39 | posts: 317 | Location: Ontario, Canada

Hahaha, Canada makes a tax instead and protects its people .
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#13)
thatguy91
Ancient Guru
 
Videocard: Gigabyte HD7870 OC 2GB
Processor: i5-3570K
Mainboard: Asrock z77 Extreme6
Memory: DDR3-2400 2x8GB
Soundcard: ALC898 + Microlab FC-730
PSU: Enermax Platimax 750W
Default 10-02-2012, 12:48 | posts: 2,758 | Location: Australia

So this is brought on by a decline in sales in the Japanese music industry, which means less money in the local economy, less government taxes etc. I dare say they will prioritise the offenders list, such that only people who have enough funds to pay the fine will be caught, meaning money into government coffers, and not out of them through imprisonment (which also could negatively impact the economy more than that person saving $50 from downloading songs. Some of those that can't pay will also be targetted just to keep the fear level up, so not being able to pay the fine won't be a saviour in itself.

Of course, the real question is, if it is an issue with the local music industry, what about people buying songs legitimately from foreign websites? Will they make only local downloads legal?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#14)
bobdude
Maha Guru
 
bobdude's Avatar
 
Videocard: 7970 3GB
Processor: AMD Phenom II 955be
Mainboard: ASUS AM3 750a sli
Memory: Patriot 8GB 2x4
Soundcard: On-board
PSU: Thermaltake TPX-775M
Default 10-02-2012, 13:51 | posts: 1,710 | Location: AZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by XBEAST View Post
Hopefully this laws hits US and EU as well.
cool and when it does YOU can pay ALL the taxes when there serving time
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#15)
perosmct
Banned
 
Videocard: unknown
Processor: unknown
Mainboard: unknown
Memory: unknown
Soundcard: unknown
PSU: unknown
Default 10-02-2012, 14:43 | posts: 1,072 | Location: unknown

when it will come to eu, with money i escaped from paying terabytes of data, movies, music and games, i will build an armory in my house and then come to arrest me, i'll not be back like terminator, i will be there to kick your @$$...
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#16)
AbjectBlitz
Ancient Guru
 
AbjectBlitz's Avatar
 
Videocard: 5970 920/4920
Processor: i7 2700k @ 5Ghz H80
Mainboard: Asus P8Z68-V Gen3
Memory: 8gb RipJaws @ 2133 mhz
Soundcard: X-FI Fatal1ty pro
PSU: Crosair TX 750W
Default 10-02-2012, 15:43 | posts: 3,271 | Location: United Kingdom

Quote:
Originally Posted by XBEAST View Post
Hopefully this laws hits US and EU as well.
Dude, WTF is wrong with you?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#17)
BLEH!
Ancient Guru
 
BLEH!'s Avatar
 
Videocard: "OEM 8970" CF @ Stock
Processor: W3680 @ 4.53 GHz @ H100i
Mainboard: Asus P6T7WS Supercomputer
Memory: 24GB @ 1600 @ 9-10-9-27
Soundcard: Saffire Pro40/KRK Rokit 5
PSU: Enermax Revo 1500W
Default 10-02-2012, 15:53 | posts: 2,998 | Location: Not Far North Enough (England)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AbjectBlitz View Post
Dude, WTF is wrong with you?
This.

As a musician, as I understand the business currently:
There's no money in traditional record sales any more really, at least not through major labels. Things like Bandcamp are the way forward, as that way, the artist gets 90% of the profits rather than 5% from a record deal. Touring makes artists far more money than record sales, with merch sales being more important than ever.

Japan is definitely going in the wrong direction with this.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#18)
sverek
Maha Guru
 
sverek's Avatar
 
Videocard: XFX HD6870
Processor: i5 2500k @4.4Ghz
Mainboard: P8Z68-V
Memory: Corsair Ven. 8GB
Soundcard: Xonar DG
PSU: Corsair HX850
Default 10-02-2012, 17:51 | posts: 1,036 | Location: Japan, Soka

In Japan, a 14 year old boy got into jail for creating an "exploit" (shutting down pc over local network) and putting on website. Another 15 year old got in jail by putting copyright material on his blog.

I wonder if police or government in Japan have any idea if they putting "right" people in jail.

There people who seeds terabytes of data via torrent and p2p anonymously in Japan, there people who posting exploits, and they doing fine so far as they do it behind encrypted connection.
Its always those poor people, that got caught with obvious proof. However maximum damage they did is no more than 100 downloads.

I just hope this will fail as it did in USA. Getting 1000000+ people into jail cause they downloaded stupid track from youtube... its just stupid and painful to see.
Not to mention its their own tax money being used against them to hunt them down.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#19)
Extraordinary
Ancient Guru
 
Extraordinary's Avatar
 
Videocard: Sapphire 7870 OC Edition
Processor: FX-8350 @ 4.6GHz
Mainboard: ASUS Crosshair V Formula
Memory: 12GB 2133 G.Skill
Soundcard: 5.1 Surround
PSU: Corsair TX950
Default 10-02-2012, 17:58 | posts: 2,763 | Location: At my desk

Quote:
Originally Posted by XBEAST View Post
Hopefully this laws hits US and EU as well.
Get off the internet right now
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#20)
StewieTech
Chuck Norris
 
StewieTech's Avatar
 
Videocard: HD 7950 [1200/6400]
Processor: i5 3570k [4.6]
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 LE
Memory: Kingston 8GB [1600]
Soundcard: Xonar DG / SL HD681B
PSU: OCZ ZT 550W
Default 10-02-2012, 20:17 | posts: 654 | Location: Portugal

Stupid law!
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#21)
WindtalkerCS
Master Guru
 
WindtalkerCS's Avatar
 
Videocard: 2x EVGA GTX 280's
Processor: Intel i7 920 @ 4.0ghz
Mainboard: Gigabyte X58-UD5
Memory: OCZ PC-12800 3x2gig
Soundcard: Presonus Firepod
PSU: Enermax Revolution 1050w
Default 10-02-2012, 20:20 | posts: 379 | Location: Upstate NY

Quote:
Originally Posted by BLEH! View Post
This.

As a musician, as I understand the business currently:
There's no money in traditional record sales any more really, at least not through major labels. Things like Bandcamp are the way forward, as that way, the artist gets 90% of the profits rather than 5% from a record deal. Touring makes artists far more money than record sales, with merch sales being more important than ever.

Japan is definitely going in the wrong direction with this.
I don't think it is even a new development. I'd argue that it's been like that for a long long time. Shows have always been the moneymakers.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#22)
IcE
Ancient Guru
 
IcE's Avatar
 
Videocard: EVGA GTX 680 SC+
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K @4.0
Mainboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 1866 - 8GB
Soundcard: Soundblaster Z + Aurvana
PSU: Enermax NAXN 82+ 750W
Default 10-02-2012, 20:41 | posts: 6,990 | Location: Toledo, Ohio

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zboe View Post
So let make pirating a crime and fill our already over full jails with even more non violent offenders.

Prohibition in the U.S. failed, the war on drugs has been a failure for 40 years now. What makes you think the Government could fight pirates any better? I mean really...When are people like you going to realize that criminalizing BS like this does absolutely nothing and runs up more worthless Government spending in the process. You aren't solving a damn thing with legislation like this, instead your ripping families apart and putting more burden on taxpayers that cannot afford it.
Well something has to be done. There are economic consequences from copyright theft. Nobody can really quantify exactly how large they are, but they're still there. Jail is a silly punishment though.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#23)
PhazeDelta1
Ancient Guru
 
PhazeDelta1's Avatar
 
Videocard: EVGA 680 Classified
Processor: AMD FX-8350
Mainboard: Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2
Memory: 16GB G.Skill
Soundcard: ASUS Xonar DG
PSU: Seasonic X-850
Default 10-02-2012, 21:01 | posts: 9,317 | Location: 90° N

Quote:
Originally Posted by IcE View Post
Well something has to be done. There are economic consequences from copyright theft. Nobody can really quantify exactly how large they are, but they're still there. Jail is a silly punishment though.
Just think, if SOPA would have passed, pirating copyrighted material would of been classified as economic terrorism.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#24)
PinguX
Master Guru
 
PinguX's Avatar
 
Videocard: ATI 5870
Processor: i5 2500K
Mainboard: Asrock Z77 Pro
Memory: G.Skill DDR3 8GB
Soundcard: Asus Xonar DG
PSU: OCZ Stealth XStream2 600W
Default 10-02-2012, 21:53 | posts: 794

How much of Japan's revenue is generated by the music industry ?

Jailing teenagers/students downloading youtube videos is'nt going to help Japan's economy. Whos going to employ them when they come out of prison ? Less employed people means less money for the country.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#25)
Redemption80
Ancient Guru
 
Redemption80's Avatar
 
Videocard: MSI GTX 570
Processor: i7-2600K @ 4.6ghz
Mainboard: Asus P8P67 PRO Intel P67
Memory: G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB
Soundcard: ASUS Xonar D2
PSU: Corsair GS800
Default 10-02-2012, 22:34 | posts: 13,430 | Location: Glasgow

Don't think anyone other than a few "make an example" cases will actually be thrown in jail.

Likely used as a deterrent, or as a way to get people to pay up when they get caught.

As already mentioned, putting people in jail is a very expensive and only ends up hurting the country more, which is why (here anyway) we have alcoholics and drug addicts on government handouts as its cheaper than jailing them.

That got me thinking though, downloading is probably very addictive for many, would that mean a future world could have government handouts of games/movies/music to stop people "stealing"
   
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright (c) 1995-2012, All Rights Reserved. The Guru of 3D, the Hardware Guru, and 3D Guru are trademarks owned by Hilbert Hagedoorn.