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Default Google's Eric Schmidt on Free Speech - 09-28-2012, 18:56 | posts: 1,305 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

REUTERS: Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt defends his company's decision to keep an anti-Islam film on its YouTube website despite violent protests all over the Muslim world.

Schmidt said in his defense that, "We ultimately believe that the best answer to speech is more speech, not the other way around."

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...-YouTube-Video

Doubt this will last more than a page or 2, but I think it was a good and correct response to stand up against censorship.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:21 | posts: 3,434 | Location: Sweden

yep.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:25 | posts: 9,340 | Location: 90° N

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Funny thing is if that video was anti-american, it would of already been taken down.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:29 | posts: 1,305 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

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IB4 TEH LOK


Funny thing is if that video was anti-american, it would of already been taken down.
yeah, because there are no anti-american things on youtube.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:30 | posts: 4,285 | Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina

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Funny thing is if that video was anti-american, it would of already been taken down.
Are you sure it "would of" been taken down?. There is plenty of anti-american footage on Youtube.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:31 | posts: 9,340 | Location: 90° N

Of course there is. But nothing like what that video is spewing.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:34 | posts: 4,285 | Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina

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Of course there is. But nothing like what that video is spewing.
Mmm I think one thing is the video and another thing is the reaction to the video.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:37 | posts: 9,340 | Location: 90° N

Well if it was a reaction they were looking for, they definitely got one.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:41 | posts: 1,422 | Location: USA

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Of course there is. But nothing like what that video is spewing.
What is the video spewing? It is an ultra-low budget religious mockery made under false pretenses, not an anti-Pakistan or anti-Iran etc video.

Anti-American has nothing to do with it.

One of the most popular Youtube channels is "the amazing atheist" with over 100,000,000 views. He says all sorts of things about religion in general that are far worse than anything that silly 12 minute video says.

Go into Youtube and search "i hate america" there are tons of videos, hahaha.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:42 | posts: 2,318 | Location: why do you want to know? stalkers..

i saw a pic on the onion of a very graphic deity 4-way. mohammad was nowhere to be found. guess wat? no christians, jews, hindus or buddhists killed anyone over it. there werent even any riots! wow. amazing
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:44 | posts: 1,305 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

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i saw a pic on the onion of a very graphic deity 4-way. mohammad was nowhere to be found. guess wat? no christians, jews, hindus or buddhists killed anyone over it. there werent even riots! wow. amazing

I saw the same picture, i believe the difference was all the religious characters were smiling?
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 19:47 | posts: 1,422 | Location: USA

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i saw a pic on the onion of a very graphic deity 4-way. mohammad was nowhere to be found. guess wat? no christians, jews, hindus or buddhists killed anyone over it. there werent even riots! wow. amazing
I saw that on the Onion, hehe.

I actually think that Youtube has done far less removing of videos than they used to (music videos come to mind). There are a lot of official channels, VEVO and such that can upload those things.

As far as I am aware, they only remove pornography, ultra violence (ogrish type material), and some copyright related stuff. You can still find pretty much any song you want.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 20:11 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

And that quote comes to mind: Silence is golden.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 20:29 | posts: 1,305 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

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And that quote comes to mind: Silence is golden.
i prefer


First they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 20:32 | posts: 74 | Location: NJ

I sometimes think whom ever created us gave us the ability to think and reason just to see us kill each other.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 21:04 | posts: 10,846 | Location: England

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I sometimes think whom ever created us gave us the ability to think and reason just to see us kill each other.
Any thoughts on freedom of speech?

Freedom of speech is one of those depressing subjects, most people want it but the law has to defend people against others inciting racial hatred and so on.

Pure freedom of speech is always going to find someone being offended.

Look at what happened to Salman Rushdies after the release of The Satanic Verses. 99.9% of the people calling for his death or plotting it didn't even read it and when they did they actually saw that there was very little to complain about.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 21:16 | posts: 827 | Location: Montreal

can i watch that video anywhere? been out of the loop on this
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 21:32 | posts: 3,434 | Location: Sweden

i like how south park mocks every religion and has even had mohammed on it before (this was before facebook/twitter though). when the whole cartoon riot started a few years ago they removed that video and had to censor their newer one.

we're all laughing at the religious nutcases, and the fact that they're muslim makes it even funnier. it's not so much a personal attack on a religion, but the rest of the world laughing at what a few extremists do. feel bad for the everyday muslim who doesn't give a **** about all of this drama and trivial garbage.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 21:59 | posts: 5,891 | Location: Chilling

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can i watch that video anywhere? been out of the loop on this
It's not even the full movie, just a trailer:
http://youtu.be/JsIqjg3VkrE

Anyways, I'm going to hold my mouth on this subject because discussion about religion here can't come to any good.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 22:07 | posts: 4,144

Video is dubbed worse than an old kung fu movie.

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Of course there is. But nothing like what that video is spewing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0

Last edited by Dustpuppy; 09-28-2012 at 22:19.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 23:58 | posts: 2,537 | Location: Kansas City, Mo

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IB4 TEH LOK


Funny thing is if that video was anti-american, it would of already been taken down.
There is no way this post can be serious. There are lots of Anti American videos on youtube. Tons of Anti Catholic, Christian, Jewish, etc...videos too
   
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Default 09-29-2012, 00:01 | posts: 9,340 | Location: 90° N

Apparently some of you can't tell the difference between trolling and when i'm being serious. Relax guys.
   
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Default 09-29-2012, 00:02 | posts: 4,144

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There is no way this post can be serious. There are lots of Anti American videos on youtube. Tons of Anti Catholic, Christian, Jewish, etc...videos too
Yep, here's the kind of bigoted crap we Christians have to put up with on a daily basis.
   
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Default 09-29-2012, 00:09 | posts: 9,340 | Location: 90° N


$5 says Rick Astley is on the other end of that link.
   
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Default 09-29-2012, 01:04 | posts: 1,560 | Location: US

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Of course there is. But nothing like what that video is spewing.
I don't agree, I think there is plenty of stuff on YouTube that fits your description, it's just that Americans generally don't get a branch in their twat like these savages do, so no one pays any attention.

That said, Google still removes plenty from YouTube that they deem insensitive to various other groups, so this guy is still a hypocrite.
   
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