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AMD A10 5800K Trinity APU preview - Guru3D.com
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Default AMD A10 5800K Trinity APU preview - Guru3D.com - 09-27-2012, 07:44 | posts: 19,564 | Location: Guru3D testlab

In this preview we talk about what AMD is about to release with the AMD A10 5800K APU processor. Based on Trinity APU architecture and building on the strengths of both the Llano and Bulldozer design,...

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Default 09-27-2012, 07:55 | posts: 3,495 | Location: Australia

One of the pages is incorrectly labelled:
The A75 chipset - Socket FM2 - APU SKU overview
   
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Yeah I noticed that, already fixed


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Default 09-27-2012, 09:13 | posts: 1,220 | Location: Warsaw, Poland

Thank you for this preview.

Unfortunately, it appears my 3.5-year old i7 920 offers more muscle, which is somehow disappointing. AMD really has to do something or just focus on slower CPUs.
   
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Default 09-27-2012, 10:37 | posts: 4,142 | Location: Not Far North Enough (England)

Power consumption seems kinda high but that IGP performance is top notch. I sense an itx build coming along
   
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Default 09-27-2012, 16:01 | posts: 92 | Location: portugal

its a crap... the ipc is still to low and the clocks have to compensate with the drawback of power consumption... its game over for amd this time, only the gpu department of amd will survive if nvidia lets them because if an 7970 with 4.3b transistors runs for its money with the supposed to be mid-range 680 with 3.4b transistors i dont want to think about an equal specked nvidia counter-part.

this is an indication that the piledriver fx8350 will only compete at best with old school sandy and still lagging in most cases behind
   
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Default 09-27-2012, 17:07 | posts: 17,164 | Location: New Jersey, USA

I doubt it will compete with sb, they still have to beat x58 yet and p2
   
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Default 09-27-2012, 19:23 | posts: 4,881 | Location: South Dakota

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Thank you for this preview.

Unfortunately, it appears my 3.5-year old i7 920 offers more muscle, which is somehow disappointing. AMD really has to do something or just focus on slower CPUs.
This isn't designed as top end performance (like your i7 was) it offers CPU/GPU for less than $140 (plus mobos pretty cheap as well). Your comment is like saying the new Hybrid is slower than your old Corvette.

Power consumption is a little high, (20 watts higher than Llano) on load, but will have to wait and see how the CPU performance works next week.
   
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Default 09-27-2012, 19:33 | posts: 12,004 | Location: USA

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Thank you for this preview.

Unfortunately, it appears my 3.5-year old i7 920 offers more muscle, which is somehow disappointing. AMD really has to do something or just focus on slower CPUs.
These APUs were never meant for gaming.
   
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Default 09-27-2012, 20:00 | posts: 10,512 | Location: Finland

Hmm... Hmm... I'm looking to upgrade our AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Black Edition based HTPC soon. Maybe this would be a good option?
   
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Default 09-27-2012, 20:26 | posts: 4,881 | Location: South Dakota

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Hmm... Hmm... I'm looking to upgrade our AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Black Edition based HTPC soon. Maybe this would be a good option?
Probably, the Mobo has lots of goodies and the temps seem to be good. The only issue may be slightly higher load power consumption but I doubt a HTPC is going to stress it that much and will be in idle most of the (which it does do well at).

Edit, here is a look at the HTPC qualities of the Trinity Desktop, power actually looks pretty good. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6335/a...pc-perspective

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Default 09-27-2012, 22:42 | posts: 15,596 | Location: US East Coast

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Thank you for this preview.

Unfortunately, it appears my 3.5-year old i7 920 offers more muscle, which is somehow disappointing. AMD really has to do something or just focus on slower CPUs.
Since when is a(n) entry level/budget processor supposed to outperform a high-end processor? By that line of thinking, an IB based Pentium should outperform your i7-920....which we both know won't happen for at least several more generations....


   
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Default 09-28-2012, 02:31 | posts: 1,522

You could buy a i7 920 cpu used right now cheaper and stomp this cpu amd has turned into a joke
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 02:36 | posts: 71 | Location: Texas

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By itself not a massive GPU change opposed to the previous generation which had 400 shader cores however the new AMD GCN graphics architecture is applied and offers a significant leap in performance for integrated graphics alright. Processor wise Trinity is based on Piledriver cores, basically the new 2nd revision of AMD's Bulldozers cores which we all know from AMD's FX series processors.
That is incorrect.
Trinity has Cayman VLIW-4 SPUs.

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Well AMD made the transition towards radeon 6000 architecure, and that's GCN (Graphics Core Next or better known as the VLI4) architecture. Per core that means more efficiency, but also tesselation performance will have gone up a notch or two.
GCN is a SIMD based architecture and wasn't present in the HD 6000 series.

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You could buy a i7 920 cpu used right now cheaper and stomp this cpu amd has turned into a joke
I will have to agree with you on this, a used i7 920 right now is around 150-160$ so AMD is 3 years behind.. bloody hell
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 06:42 | posts: 1,851 | Location: Deep Dark Dungeon

Is AMD only going to make APU's from now on? It's probably a stupid question..

Sorry I haven't been keeping up to date.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 08:57 | posts: 11,396 | Location: England

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Is AMD only going to make APU's from now on? It's probably a stupid question..

Sorry I haven't been keeping up to date.
We are waiting for Piledriver the follow up to Bulldozer.
   
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Default Trinity APU preview - 09-28-2012, 12:44 | posts: 2,795

Not if Techreport has anything to say:


Yes, AMD and other firms have done limited "preview" releases in the past, where select publications are allowed to publish a few pictures and perhaps a handful of benchmark numbers ahead of time.
There is some slight precedent there.

But none of that changes the fact that this plan is absolutely, bat-guano crazy. It crosses a line that should not be crossed.

Companies like AMD don't get to decide what gets highlighted in reviews and what doesn't.
Using the review press's general willingness to agree on one thing—timing—to get additional control may seem clever, but we've thought it over, and no.

We'll keep our independence, thanks.
   
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Default 09-28-2012, 22:09 | posts: 10,369 | Location: Toledo Ohio

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I will have to agree with you on this, a used i7 920 right now is around 150-160$ so AMD is 3 years behind.. bloody hell
Couple problems with that though.

1. Power consumption is a big key here a lot of times for something like this.
2. You probably won't be able to find a brand new in box 920 along side a mobo for it not used, and if you do the prices are horrible most of the time. Where as with this, new in box and all. Not having to worry if someone who overlocked it pushed it too far or damaged it.
3. 4 cores with 2 threads per core versus 2 "physical" cores with 2 "modules" inside, not too fair of a comparison...

Kind of unfair to compare a high end cpu to a mid range cpu too. The 920 may offer better cpu performance, but tdp and added bonus of the better integrated graphics is the key with the APU's from AMD. I just hope that these APU's have decent overclocking room and performance with overclocking, if it does that'll be the key for it.
   
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