2000 employees riot Foxconn closes Taiyuan plant

Hilbert Hagedoorn

Reports on the web indicate that around 2,000 Foxconn workers rioted at the company's Taiyuan plant in northern China. Reuters received word that Foxconn closed the plant today for investigation.*The...

2000 employees riot Foxconn closes Taiyuan plant

mmicrosysm · 09-24-2012, 13:27 | posts: 576 | Location: Box

I heard Three Days Grace was playing over the intercom prior to this incident.

lucidus · 09-24-2012, 13:35 | posts: 3,152 | Location: UAE

Security beating up a worker? No wonder they rioted. How long until someone blames Apple for this?

Mikedogg · 09-24-2012, 13:38 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

So one of the guards was hitting one of the staff.

Sounds like it might have been a disgruntled employee complaining about their "rights" and how "crappy" their "pay-rate" is blah blah blah... Not in China, sorry.

However, having that many people working in the same place it's no surprise a moment of violence broke out.

cowie · 09-24-2012, 13:40 | posts: 10,862 | Location: new jersey

Heard it was all apples fault

CronoGraal · 09-24-2012, 13:53 | posts: 3,424 | Location: Sweden

apple, global warming, conspiracy, etc

on a serious note:

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The Taiyuan factory employees around 79,000 workers, it makes magnesium alloy components for consumer electronics, heat conduction products, LED lighting products, mobile phone products and magnesium alloy automotive components.

dayum.

Speed Weed · 09-24-2012, 19:54 | posts: 629 | Location: Somewhere in Scotland

Nice one, mmicrosysm.

Bit overpowering if you're bored sh1tless doing the same thing daily/nightly on a 12-hour shift, though.

Andrew LB · 09-25-2012, 05:38 | posts: 133 | Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia

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Nice one, mmicrosysm.

Bit overpowering if you're bored sh1tless doing the same thing daily/nightly on a 12-hour shift, though.

Yea. But it's work. And i'll bet the vast majority of Foxconn employees are quite grateful for having these jobs that typically pay 40% higher than the national average in china for similar work.

Heck... Apple could have put the plant in Southern Europe, but they would have gone broke after only a few years of insanely high pensions, 3 hour lunch breaks, 4 day work weeks, and retirement with full pensions at 54 years old.

... seeing Greece and many other Mediterranean countries teetering on complete collapse (yes... so is the US), it completely vindicates my grandparents selling everything they could in the early 1930's, boarding a ship, and arriving in New York with high hopes and the dedication to do better. It angers me how some in this country have dedicated the last 100 years trying to make this nation more like Europe's big government and social programs. Especially since all they need to do is realize the big spending , Obama care etc, are only accelerating things towards the same end.

Size_Mick · **Memory**: 2GBx2 DDR2@1066 5-5-5-15

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Originally Posted by Andrew LB

Yea. But it's work. And i'll bet the vast majority of Foxconn employees are quite grateful for having these jobs that typically pay 40% higher than the national average in china for similar work.

Heck... Apple could have put the plant in Southern Europe, but they would have gone broke after only a few years of insanely high pensions, 3 hour lunch breaks, 4 day work weeks, and retirement with full pensions at 54 years old.

... seeing Greece and many other Mediterranean countries teetering on complete collapse (yes... so is the US), it completely vindicates my grandparents selling everything they could in the early 1930's, boarding a ship, and arriving in New York with high hopes and the dedication to do better. It angers me how some in this country have dedicated the last 100 years trying to make this nation more like Europe's big government and social programs. Especially since all they need to do is realize the big spending , Obama care etc, are only accelerating things towards the same end.

Are you one of those people who think that we're in trouble because we expect our society to have a certain standard of living available to everyone, rather than just letting poor people be miserable and die while allowing the rich to pay nothing in taxes and live the life of Riley? Need I remind you that without government regulation and social services, we'd still live in a country where kids are put to work and lose limbs regularly; where you get no overtime pay for working extremely long hours; where you could lose your job if you're not happy about your pay, your working conditions, or how you're treated, because there are so many poor people in line for it? Since we love to boast about being the best country in the world and all, doesn't it follow that we should be able to take care of our own?

As far as everyone talking about Apple and blame, let's see: iPhone 5 is sold out and investors are now worried about supply, and a riot happens at Foxconn. Are these events connected? Possibly. But when companies like Apple are given the blame, it's precisely because they have to be complicit in the way the employees are treated, as it affects their bottom line. When you're an American corporation and pretend to represent American values but willingly turn a blind eye when other people in your supply chain don't live up to those values (in the name of profit), it's pretty damn hypocritical.

NAMEk · 09-26-2012, 17:43 | posts: 181 | Location: Lithuania

It's no secret, that workers are treated like sh*t, it's more slavery than work. Here is the result.

yelsewshane · 09-27-2012, 02:51 | posts: 1,468

Nobody is makeing them work at foxconn they can just quit the job they are crazy. As far as apple goes into this situation I don't care I think all apple products suck.

tr4l1975 · 09-27-2012, 05:51 | posts: 2,047 | Location: in my own world,they like me here.

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Originally Posted by yelsewshane

Nobody is makeing them work at foxconn they can just quit the job they are crazy. As far as apple goes into this situation I don't care I think all apple products suck.

They are. They are crazy, about making a living and supporting their families. When jobs are limited, what one would you take to provide for your family? minimal or none?

NAMEk · 09-27-2012, 17:16 | posts: 181 | Location: Lithuania

Life is making...or you want massive migration from china? nobody wants that. If people are not skilled to do anything else and/or don't want to work in shadow business, what can they do? And it's not only in china. In the country i live, you are treated like that everywhere, most of students leaves the country. I have my own business, i can't say i'm happy with that, but i have my own reasons not leave it yet.

Noisiv · **Memory**: 4GB OCZ 5-4-4-4-12

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Originally Posted by Andrew LB

Yea. But it's work. And i'll bet the vast majority of Foxconn employees are quite grateful for having these jobs that typically pay 40% higher than the national average in china for similar work.

Heck... Apple could have put the plant in Southern Europe, but they would have gone broke after only a few years of insanely high pensions, 3 hour lunch breaks, 4 day work weeks, and retirement with full pensions at 54 years old.

... seeing Greece and many other Mediterranean countries teetering on complete collapse (yes... so is the US), it completely vindicates my grandparents selling everything they could in the early 1930's, boarding a ship, and arriving in New York with high hopes and the dedication to do better. It angers me how some in this country have dedicated the last 100 years trying to make this nation more like Europe's big government and social programs. Especially since all they need to do is realize the big spending , Obama care etc, are only accelerating things towards the same end.

You mean like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Nederland, Germany?

All HUGE government and big social programs.
Only difference being those countries reinvest their wealth in people, education and social equality, while US invests in "job creators".

Fighting vehemently for so called small govt and lower taxes, because "everyone can make it", and hell I can be a millionaire one day, and certainly wouldn't want anyone messing with my income purse, is the biggest joke sold to US working man.

But that's not all - when the same philosophy of basically economic selfishness and greed, manages to connect itself with Christian values, you have to wonder what Bible revision we are reading.

Even if you set aside such moral issues, the basic logic of it are false. No man is an island.
Personal wealth does not come out through ones poophole, but rather as the monetary value of his work AND/OR interaction with the market system.
So if someone makes $1B/M/year and someone makes $80,000/year MAYBE, JUST MAYBE first ones owe more to society, and MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the market playfield is not leveled right.

Redemption80 · *Last edited by Redemption80; 09-27-2012 at 19:06.*

Yeah, i'm far from pro socialism, but the anti brigade that the US to be full of seems to come across as very greedy and selfish.

People need to stop looking at how the US was 50-100 years ago, whether you like it or not the world has changed and from what i can see you don't really make anything any-more, especially compared to the past, while all the top US companies outsource the work to other countries, so i'm not sure how the capitalist ways of old can continue.

I do agree these people should and probably are grateful of a job, if it was a choice between having no money or doing their job i would do it.
My next door neighbour would be considered a slave as he works 50-60 hours a week for £6.08 an hour, but him and his GF share the mortgage, each have a car and a comfortable life, he hates his job and is is nowhere near middle class, but he enjoys life.