Crysis 2 graphic settings advice

[shankly1985]

Hello I have i5 2500k OC 4.5 with a HD7950 OC 1005/1500. I can run this game Ultra setting but the frame Drops really put me of this game.

What settings you think are best for my setup to keep a solid 60FPS but still keep game looking good?
I also notice they is Ultra and Extreme witch of theses to are the highest setting? I notice zero change between the two lol
Also Vsync If I have this off I get a better FPS less drops, but I hate Screen tear with a passion if I switch it on drops random to 30FPS then right back to 60FPS for a second. The Drops happen also in places where I think should be solid 60FPS.

Am using 12.8 drivers with 12.8 Cap2 Am I wrong in thinking I should be getting better performance out this game on Ultra?

Thanks

[Xzibit]

Use Maldo mod

[SoloCreep]

Sounds like you need to install the directX 11 patch and textures. You will get more graphic options if you do. You will be able to tweak your settings and the game will run better after the update it.

[Lowki]

one thing to be noted is this is a twimtbp game. soo they developed it to play on strenghts of nvidia gpus. Would be nice if the developers would include amd mode nvidia mode in the settings. Would be awesome right? I also think the in game settings should revolve around hardware like ok. shader (stream proccesor,cuda core) #, Vram amount , shader model, dx version, dual gpu yes or no. You input these to match your card. Then it adjust the settings to run best on your card, while leaving the option of still manually adjusting settings. Right? Cause if your like me you start off setting everything to the highest possible settings then when its all choppy you get pissed like wtf!!! i paid a million dollars for this fu*king card and it plays like shi*!!! hahaha ofcourse thats heavily over exaggerated but i know you all have been there before lmao!! On a serious note i turn game effects and object to extreme, particles and post high, the rest ultra. motion blur off. seems to run the smoothest for me

[hulawafu77]

Originally Posted by Lowki

one thing to be noted is this is a twimtbp game. soo they developed it to play on strenghts of nvidia gpus. Would be nice if the developers would include amd mode nvidia mode in the settings. Would be awesome right? I also think the in game settings should revolve around hardware like ok. shader (stream proccesor,cuda core) #, Vram amount , shader model, dx version, dual gpu yes or no. You input these to match your card. Then it adjust the settings to run best on your card, while leaving the option of still manually adjusting settings. Right? Cause if your like me you start off setting everything to the highest possible settings then when its all choppy you get pissed like wtf!!! i paid a million dollars for this fu*king card and it plays like shi*!!! hahaha ofcourse thats heavily over exaggerated but i know you all have been there before lmao!! On a serious note i turn game effects and object to extreme, particles and post high, the rest ultra. motion blur off. seems to run the smoothest for me

If you want more performance, just turn off tessellation. The entire map and levels have tessellated water. Even in buildings and on land. It's insane. It's hilarious how tessellated wooden floors and broken wood is in this game. Instead of just using tessellation intelligently on faces, guns, maybe round wheels, but no 64x, Crytek decided to tessellate water where there is no water and tessellate flat surfaces until it's a solid red in wire frame. This of course as you mentioned, something Nvidia paid for just so it wouldn't run well on AMD. Luckily for us, the GCN cores eat tessellation well.

Just in case if you didn't read about this before.
http://techreport.com/review/21404/c...a-good-thing/3

[shankly1985]

Originally Posted by SoloCreep

Sounds like you need to install the directX 11 patch and textures. You will get more graphic options if you do. You will be able to tweak your settings and the game will run better after the update it.

Already have that mate, comes done with steam version of the game.

[shankly1985]

Will give them settings ago later and report back. So is extreme more demanding than ultra in this game?

Originally Posted by Lowki

one thing to be noted is this is a twimtbp game. soo they developed it to play on strenghts of nvidia gpus. Would be nice if the developers would include amd mode nvidia mode in the settings. Would be awesome right? I also think the in game settings should revolve around hardware like ok. shader (stream proccesor,cuda core) #, Vram amount , shader model, dx version, dual gpu yes or no. You input these to match your card. Then it adjust the settings to run best on your card, while leaving the option of still manually adjusting settings. Right? Cause if your like me you start off setting everything to the highest possible settings then when its all choppy you get pissed like wtf!!! i paid a million dollars for this fu*king card and it plays like shi*!!! hahaha ofcourse thats heavily over exaggerated but i know you all have been there before lmao!! On a serious note i turn game effects and object to extreme, particles and post high, the rest ultra. motion blur off. seems to run the smoothest for me

[chr!s]

I've created a crysis profile in CCC.
I've manually set the tessellation to level x2 in this crysis 2 profile
The in game gfx settings are all on the highest (DX11)
I've also set r_msaa = 0 (off)
I get a good FPS with this setup

[shankly1985]

Originally Posted by Xzibit

Use Maldo mod

The looks superb, but my question is if am not maintain a solid FPS now wouldn't using a graphics mod make things worst?

[shankly1985]

Originally Posted by chr!s

I've created a crysis profile in CCC.
I've manually set the tessellation to level x2 in this crysis 2 profile
The in game gfx settings are all on the highest (DX11)
I've also set r_msaa = 0 (off)
I get a good FPS with this setup

Thanks for reply. set r_msaa = 0 (off) is this done by making a .cfg file?

[Lowki]

Originally Posted by shankly1985

Will give them settings ago later and report back. So is extreme more demanding than ultra in this game?

No ultra is the highest

[shankly1985]

Thanks

Originally Posted by 412888

No ultra is the highest

[teleguy]

Originally Posted by shankly1985

The looks superb, but my question is if am not maintain a solid FPS now wouldn't using a graphics mod make things worst?

I think the mod fixes some of the superfluous tesselation.

[BlackZero]

Originally Posted by hulawafu77

If you want more performance, just turn off tessellation. The entire map and levels have tessellated water. Even in buildings and on land. It's insane. It's hilarious how tessellated wooden floors and broken wood is in this game. Instead of just using tessellation intelligently on faces, guns, maybe round wheels, but no 64x, Crytek decided to tessellate water where there is no water and tessellate flat surfaces until it's a solid red in wire frame. This of course as you mentioned, something Nvidia paid for just so it wouldn't run well on AMD. Luckily for us, the GCN cores eat tessellation well.

Just in case if you didn't read about this before.
http://techreport.com/review/21404/c...a-good-thing/3

Maldo's texture mod includes the option to disable water tessellation.

[chr!s]

Originally Posted by shankly1985

Thanks for reply. set r_msaa = 0 (off) is this done by making a .cfg file?

I could never get the .cfg to work. So I manually set it every time I start the game with the console (~)

[SaiBork]

You could try a FPS limiter instead of using vsync. I myself often still use vsync as limiting doesnt also do the job properly. The problem with vsync is that it, as you notice with your framedrops, only supports certain settings. 15, 30, 60 fps is the usual stuff. So if your fps goes below 60 to for example 50, vsync lowers it to 30. This is so really annoying and it's also the reason that nvidia now has variable vsync, which enables vsync if your fps is too high, but turns it off when your fps goes below 60. I can only hope for ATI to do something similar.

To solve your issue, I would indeed look into using the mod and be able to disable the underwater tesselation, as this is so overly done and doesnt show during the game at all.

[shankly1985]

Thanks guys will give the mod ago.

[-Tj-]

Originally Posted by chr!s

I could never get the .cfg to work. So I manually set it every time I start the game with the console (~)

It works, but you have to make a autoexec.cfg and put it in main Crysis2 dir., also it has to use space between name = and value.

Im using this in autoexec

cl_zoomToggle = 1

cl_fov = 74
pl_movement.power_sprint_targetFov = 74

g_skipIntro = 1

i_mouse_accel = 0
i_mouse_smooth = 0

r_PostMSAA = 2
r_UseEdgeAA = 3

r_MultiThreaded = 1
sys_spec_sound = 3

And like so ingame to keep 60fps+ @ MP.


Water seems to kill it and sometimes cause low gpu usage drops, same goes for object detail, shadows at ultra make big fps drops if you shoot at walls (its rendering shadow particles).

[chr!s]

Apologies!
after reading the post from -Tj- the setting I use is r_PostMSAA = 0 and not r_msaa = 0 (I don't think that r_msaa even exists)

-Tj- thanks for the info regarding the config file - I'll try it out.

I am also keen on trying out the mod.

The link from hulawafu77 is also good. As well as majority of the replies - Tessellation in this game is a problem. Initially I thought it was because i was using older 5xxx cards that I was having to reduce my tessellation level. But it seems even people with newer cards 7xxx are having issues...

Taken from the link provided by hulawafu77 , last page
"
Radeon owners do have some recourse, thanks to the slider in newer Catalyst drivers that allows the user to cap the tessellation factor used by games. Damien advises users to choose a limit of 16 or 32, well below the peak of 64.
"

As I mentioned, I've set my to the x2, maybe ppl with 7xxx cards could maybe go higher to 16 or 32 as suggested?

[-Tj-]

btw these 2 values make the least AA blur and best AA quality.

r_PostMSAA = 2
r_UseEdgeAA = 3

I think default is 1 and 1..

I got this info from here
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1098487&mpage=1


About Maldo mod, yeah try it , but it doesnt work in MP, Config part is ok.

For example


Although i got low gpu usage drops with this LOD & object detail settings in MP.
Im at vanilla dx11 atm and gpu usage max all the time but i also use newer driver 306.23 that seems to be Crysis2 optimized. Looks like Nvidia finally noted my 3-4 reports, no more low gpu usage by orbital strike

[shankly1985]

Thanks for theses going to give them ago. If it really comes to it and I have to use the mod so be it.
I am going to use some settings from your .cfg but also add a CCC profile to lower the tessellation down to 32x
On Amd CCC they have a setting called Amd Tessellation optimized from what I understand is ment to help with this sort of thing when games use to much of it.

Originally Posted by -Tj-

btw these 2 values make the least AA blur and best AA quality.

r_PostMSAA = 2
r_UseEdgeAA = 3

I think default is 1 and 1..

I got this info from here
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1098487&mpage=1


About Maldo mod, yeah try it , but it doesnt work in MP, Config part is ok.

For example


Although i got low gpu usage drops with this LOD & object detail settings in MP.
Im at vanilla dx11 atm and gpu usage max all the time but i also use newer driver 306.23 that seems to be Crysis2 optimized. Looks like Nvidia finally noted my 3-4 reports, no more low gpu usage by orbital strike

[shankly1985]

Guys where I can download maldo hd v3.0 from?? His blog links are removed because he releasing v4 soon.

Thanks

Edit Found it
Link just in case someone else looking.
http://www.mycrysis.com/forums/viewt...p?f=40&t=48148

[kn00tcn]

Originally Posted by SaiBork

You could try a FPS limiter instead of using vsync. I myself often still use vsync as limiting doesnt also do the job properly. The problem with vsync is that it, as you notice with your framedrops, only supports certain settings. 15, 30, 60 fps is the usual stuff. So if your fps goes below 60 to for example 50, vsync lowers it to 30. This is so really annoying and it's also the reason that nvidia now has variable vsync, which enables vsync if your fps is too high, but turns it off when your fps goes below 60. I can only hope for ATI to do something similar.

To solve your issue, I would indeed look into using the mod and be able to disable the underwater tesselation, as this is so overly done and doesnt show during the game at all.

it's called triple buffering & it lets you keep vsync

most decent engines support it & you can force it with d3doverrider if not

& now radeonpro has various options with frame limiting, vsync, TB, & a feature that's identical to adaptive vsync

we dont need to settle for deciding between 30fps or tearing

[shankly1985]

Guys Wow This Mod is superb. Am now running the Game Full Ultra with solid 60FPS most of the time. It drops in parts where I think is understandable, This my first time ever Mod a Game lol and how easy it is to do 10/10 so far.

One thing I noticed I had to start a new SP game it wouldn't let me resume game not a big deal like has I wasn't that far into it.

[ipredator]

So what your maldo settings?