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Default HD 7xxx drivers for flicker/BSOD fix - 09-10-2012, 10:18 | posts: 754

Please, let someone tell me the solution of theese issues
on 7850/7870/7950
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 10:33 | posts: 24,250 | Location: NZ

That looks like an unstable GPU overclock. Either raise the voltage, drop the clock speed or RMA it.

These problems are becoming more and more common on the 7xxx cards.

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Default 09-10-2012, 10:50 | posts: 754

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These problems are becoming more and more common on the 7xxx cards.
non-OC version too ?
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 10:56 | posts: 24,250 | Location: NZ

Seems mainly to affect the OC versions, but can affect non-OC cards as well.

I can reproduce the flickering/black screens/freezing etc issues people have on my own card simply by overclocking it too far.

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Seems mainly to affect the OC versions, but can affect non-OC cards as well.

I can reproduce the flickering/black screens/freezing etc issues people have on my own card simply by overclocking it too far.
Will the hotfix come in next drivers ?
   
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What hotfix?
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 11:09 | posts: 754

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What hotfix?
For this flickerings and BSOD.
It affects non-OC version too.
If you got this problems can you get another one?

Is this connected to the MBO chipset and CPU or the ivy bridge chipset also has this issues ?

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Default 09-10-2012, 11:15 | posts: 24,250 | Location: NZ

^I only have this problem if my GPU or vram is overclocked too much. Otherwise it's stable.

From what I've observed it seems to be a problem with the 7xxx cards and not the motherboard or anything else.
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 11:38 | posts: 754

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^I only have this problem if my GPU or vram is overclocked too much. Otherwise it's stable.

From what I've observed it seems to be a problem with the 7xxx cards and not the motherboard or anything else.
So, if you don't mess with anything, everything is OK.
For example this shouldn't have problems:
SAPPHIRE Video Card Radeon HD 7850 GDDR5 2GB/256bit, 860MHz/1200MHz, PCI-E 3.0 x16,DP,HDMI, 2xDVI, VGA Cooler (Double Slot), Lite Retail
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 13:57 | posts: 332

imho it's a driver issue.

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Default 09-10-2012, 14:23 | posts: 24,250 | Location: NZ

I don't think drivers have anything to do with it.
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 14:42 | posts: 63

I have the same issue with 12.8 driver and witcher 2, but not as much as in the video. Going back to 12.6 solved it for me.

I also have minior flicker/flashes in various outdoor locations in skyrim, while other (most) areas are flicker free, with both 12.8 and 12.6.

Heroes 6 also hase some radom flicker, tested with 12.4 and 12.6.

I have tried to downclock the gpu and vram a lot, and raise voltage, but the flicker is still present in these games.

I have not seen any flicker in Batman Arkham City, Alan Wake, Metro 2033 or Dead Space 2.

For these reasons I think it might be a driver issue.

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Default 09-10-2012, 15:30 | posts: 24,250 | Location: NZ

I get flickering/flashing textures in Fallout NV when the GPU doesn't have enough voltage, but my other games run fine (Mass Effect 1/2/3 Shogun II).

Fallout NV and Skyrim are developed by Bethesda and use similar engines. The fact they both show similar graphics anomalies with is more than just coincidence imho.

My view is some games are more sensitive to overclocked/undervolted cards and will display artifacts while other games will run just fine.....
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 16:06 | posts: 148

I wonder why amd hasnt come up with a solution yet. Its a well known problem and affects all 7xxx users. How long do we have to wait ffs!
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 16:20 | posts: 399

That flicker has NOTHING to do with how much or how little you overclocked your cards. It is NOT an overclocking problem. It only happens in SOME games, and I don't know what triggers it. I can REPRODUCE this type of flickering in the 12.7 (and 12.8) drivers in COD: Black Ops, even if I downclock the card ALL THE WAY down to 500/500 at normal 3d voltages (1.187v on my ghz edition card).

And no, it's not the ghz edition Bios causing it either, as I tested it on 12.8 with the original Bios, too.

Using the D3D driver files from the 12.5 (beta) april 18th drivers in the COD black ops folder eliminated MOST of the random black shadow like flickering, by a HUGE degree, although not all. but it was sure a lot less, often enough to never notice it except very randomly at some rare random locations.

HOWEVER I did notice something, and you guys may want to experiment.

In the 12.8 drivers (the ones that have a lot of the flickering artifacts in Black Ops, the maps load *MUCH faster* than in 12.5 betas (the drivers that have very very little flickering). In fact the maps load as much as 3x faster (if already cached).

It's definitely something to do with something driver related or something card related.

Now, get this:

Despite COD4 using basically the same "type" of engine, there are absolutely NO---ZERO black poly-like Flickers at all in COD4 in 12.8.

I'd really LOVE to know what's going on.

In another thread, someone said that the OpenCL Vram tester always results in tons of errors on a certain exact pass iteration (per pass) on 7x00 series cards. I wonder if that's somehow related.

If you had a driver where , in a certain game, there were very little, or none of those flickers, try testing the map loading speed and compare it to 12.8's. Something worth looking at...(just in case).
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 16:27 | posts: 24,250 | Location: NZ

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That flicker has NOTHING to do with how much or how little you overclocked your cards. It is NOT an overclocking problem. .
Did you not read my previous posts? You prob don't even know what flickering I'm referring to.

I JUST SAID I can deliberately make my games flicker by overclocking the GPU beyond stable speeds, or undervolting it.
If I reduce the GPU clock by 10Mhz or raise the voltage back up, the flickering goes away. It's that simple.

So don't tell me it has nothing to do with my overclock - because it has EVERYTHING to do with it.

Yours is probably a different issue....

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Default 09-10-2012, 17:01 | posts: 372 | Location: England

I get the same thing with Alan wake, well I used to and that was because My OC didn't have enough voltage. All other games worked fine but Alan wake showed it was a bad OC, Once I upped the voltage 6+ it stopped.
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 17:05 | posts: 63

Phill do you have a 7-series card?

Down clocking gpu and vram with 400 MHz does not reduce my flicker.
Also increased voltage by 0.1 V, and it did not help.
Overclocking the card, both gpu and vram, does not produce any more flicker eaither. So for me it does not seem to be a clock/voltage issue, and the gpu temp never goes above 60 C.
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 18:08 | posts: 63

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In another thread, someone said that the OpenCL Vram tester always results in tons of errors on a certain exact pass iteration (per pass) on 7x00 series cards. I wonder if that's somehow related.
I tested with MemtestCL found here: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadUtils
I got lots of "Random Blocks" errors on my 7970, but zero errors testing the 3770K.
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 18:45 | posts: 754

So, let's make something clear.
If I buy now SAPPHIRE HD 7850 GDDR5 2GB/256bit, 860MHz/1200MHz, or
HD 7850 GDDR5 1GB/256bit, 860MHz/1200MHz
I can't be 100% sure to without theese flickerings?
   
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I have no flickering at all in any of my games with my OC....

Not sure, but this could be a hardware compatibility issue, or just as others mentioned, bad voltage regulation.
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 22:28 | posts: 63

Made a CCC profile for black ops, forcing 2xSSAA, AFx16 and vsync, played for 15-20 min and did not see a single flicker. Changed SSAA to Transperancy AA and saw some flickers after a few minutes.
   
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Default 09-10-2012, 22:50 | posts: 1,589 | Location: Toronto

nothing is ever 100% sure for anything that involves humans making drivers & humans making voltage decisions

gamer cards arent accurate (error correction etc), they are made for speed along with drivers that add some more optimizations

i sometimes have partial black flickers in trackmania2, possibly very few other games but i'm not sure
   
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Default 09-11-2012, 09:11 | posts: 754

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I have no flickering at all in any of my games with my OC....

Not sure, but this could be a hardware compatibility issue, or just as others mentioned, bad voltage regulation.
Does MBO Asrock H77 have good voltage ragulation for GPU?
   
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Default 09-11-2012, 11:22 | posts: 399

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Did you not read my previous posts? You prob don't even know what flickering I'm referring to.

I JUST SAID I can deliberately make my games flicker by overclocking the GPU beyond stable speeds, or undervolting it.
If I reduce the GPU clock by 10Mhz or raise the voltage back up, the flickering goes away. It's that simple.

So don't tell me it has nothing to do with my overclock - because it has EVERYTHING to do with it.

Yours is probably a different issue....
Was I REFERRING to your post? No.
I'm referring to the THREAD STARTER. Did you bother to look at his videos? The 2nd and third show that "black L shaped flicker" patter that I and MANY others are talking about. Not just you. This thread doesn't revolve around you, mister.

If you're talking about another problem, then oh well. I'm talking about the random black flickering that pretty much EVERY single 7x00 has in COD Black Ops (and a host of other games).

But I remember you---you trolled me in a previous thread, and seem to have a personal vendetta against me. Nvm, I'm just going to put you on my ignore list and move on with my life.
   
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