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Spets · **TXAA Preview -** 08-07-2012, 15:07 | posts: 1,427

Next-Gen TXAA Anti-Aliasing Makes Its Debut In Latest Update For The Secret World

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/art...et-world-txaa/

Video on the site

Darren Hodgson · 08-07-2012, 15:26 | posts: 9,654 | Location: England

Nice...

... shame it's included in a game I have no interest in buying or playing!

RoadKillNL · 08-07-2012, 15:28 | posts: 2,542 | Location: The Netherlands

Ye, it's always like that. Games you will never play get such features : /

Spets · 08-07-2012, 15:33 | posts: 1,427

For now, but there are developers that will be using it:

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Like our FXAA technology, TXAA will be first integrated directly into the game engine. The following games, engines, and developers have committed to offering TXAA support: MechWarrior Online, Secret World, Eve Online, Borderlands 2, Unreal Engine 4, BitSquid, Slant Six Games, and Crytek.

Noisiv · **Memory**: 4GB OCZ 5-4-4-4-12

Now devs need to get their #$*& together.

Remember early FXAA?
Now compare that with Max Payne 3 FXAA implementation <-- no blur whatsoever

Denial · *Last edited by Denial; 08-07-2012 at 16:09.*

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Originally Posted by Noisiv

Now devs need to get their #$*& together.

Remember early FXAA?
Now compare that with Max Payne 3 FXAA implementation <-- no blur whatsoever

Yeah because Nvidia has improved the algorithm a **** ton since then - has nothing to do with the game developers.

You also have to consider the developer of FXAA/TXAA's position on blur. He actually likes the movie cinema blur feel. I also enjoy it - in motion it makes the image look way smoother, it's why I prefer FXAA over other implementations of AA. I also like the control I have over what it does.

FXAA is by far my fav new feature for GPU's in the last several years.

Noisiv · **Memory**: 4GB OCZ 5-4-4-4-12

Yeah because Nvidia has improved the algorithm a **** ton since then - has nothing to do with the game developers.

uhmm I kinda doubt that.
for example latest (driver) FXAA brings mostly text aa improvements,
and you can easily tweak older FXAA 3.11 to kill most of the blurring.

but nvm lets get back to TXAA. I think they should have gone with half of it

psyside · 08-07-2012, 16:42 | posts: 324 | Location: Macedonia

How do you get profiles updates?

RoadKillNL · 08-07-2012, 16:49 | posts: 2,542 | Location: The Netherlands

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spets

For now, but there are developers that will be using it:

Still none of those games are interesting for me lol.

MrBonk · 08-07-2012, 17:27 | posts: 444

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Originally Posted by Denial

Yeah because Nvidia has improved the algorithm a **** ton since then - has nothing to do with the game developers.

You also have to consider the developer of FXAA/TXAA's position on blur. He actually likes the movie cinema blur feel. I also enjoy it - in motion it makes the image look way smoother, it's why I prefer FXAA over other implementations of AA. I also like the control I have over what it does.

FXAA is by far my fav new feature for GPU's in the last several years.

Agreed 100%.

ricardonuno1980 · 08-07-2012, 19:33 | posts: 3,557 | Location: Carvalhos (Gaia)

Amazing!

But unfortunately any Fermi card doesn't have TXAA support due to HARDWARE limited.

fpunch · 08-07-2012, 20:14 | posts: 5

If this video shows what it's capable off, I'm disappointed. There is a huge loss of detail every time they switch TXAA on. Looks to be having the same blurry properties as FXAA has.

tsunami231 · 08-07-2012, 20:25 | posts: 2,280 | Location: USA

eh uselss till they add it to nvCP for 6xx series maybe in 4xx series drivers? lmao

ricardonuno1980 · 08-07-2012, 21:39 | posts: 3,557 | Location: Carvalhos (Gaia)

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Originally Posted by tsunami231

maybe in 4xx series drivers? lmao

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! lol

Anarion · 08-07-2012, 21:41 | posts: 9,145 | Location: Finland

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Originally Posted by ricardonuno1980

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! lol

Yeah, it will not be possible.

tsunami231 · 08-07-2012, 21:54 | posts: 2,280 | Location: USA

When i said 4xx series drivers I ment the DRIVER VERSION NOT THE HARDWARE SERIES

MrBonk · 08-07-2012, 21:54 | posts: 444

Pray tell what Hardware makes it so they can use FXAA?
Timothy lottes said that it could be possible if enough people pester them and ask for it on Fermi.

Also: If you don't care for the blur, why don't you just play with no AA, use the highest -LOD Bias possible and then use a PP Injector and do 200% sharpen.

TXAA is meant to be Film like AA. Which will induce blur. Boo hoo.

Go back and enjoy your pixel crawl and shimmering.

Halfmead · *Last edited by Halfmead; 08-07-2012 at 23:31.*

Well, I actually play Secret World

sorry hehe.

But, a question: It did state in TSW Patch today that TXAA would now be enabled to use (6++ series ofc), Do i need to install the new beta driver in order for this to activate or wait for some WHQL driver from nvidia ?
As of now, TXAA is not enabled still, so just curious.

Hope some of u guru's know

EDIT... scrap all that, read the article after post and it answered... /Facepalm myself lol.

Halfmead · *Last edited by Halfmead; 08-08-2012 at 00:39.*

So...Installed latest beta driver to try the TXAA.

I'll say, it looks slightly better, but takes LOT of fps (The Secret World). On a sidenote, suddenly i can also hear my card 'breathing' heavy for cold air

(not clocked).

Below examples of FPS performance at same place standing still and also when moving:

@1920x1200
FXAA HQ: Still: 59-61 (Vsync 60hz) Moving: 46-54 fps
TXAA 2x: Still: 45-47 Moving: 30-37 fps
TXAA 4X: Still: 35-35 Moving: 22-27 fps

Not sure how those numbers will translate when in combat/action and fps probably takes a further beating but....

So, for now i'll be using good old FXAAHQ until new verified driver comes out or i get a 2nd card for SLI to pull it off

Cyberdyne · 08-08-2012, 00:51 | posts: 1,263 | Location: USA, Pennsylvania

I don't know if slightly better is worth half the FPS...
Then again, it is how you see it, but IDK MAN. IDK.

Spets · 08-08-2012, 12:24 | posts: 1,427

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBonk

Also: If you don't care for the blur, why don't you just play with no AA, use the highest -LOD Bias possible and then use a PP Injector and do 200% sharpen.

TXAA is meant to be Film like AA. Which will induce blur. Boo hoo.

Go back and enjoy your pixel crawl and shimmering.

Does a really good job at it.
Here's a post by Timothy Lottes talking about it:
http://timothylottes.blog spot.com.au/2012/08/txaa-visual-q-and-about-stills.html
(remove space)
He makes really good comparisons there.

GrandMax · 08-09-2012, 21:53 | posts: 191

I want TXAA in BF3. Hell yeah.

rewt · *Last edited by rewt; 08-09-2012 at 22:13.*

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Originally Posted by ricardonuno1980

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! lol

So what happened to all the people who said it was just a driver block and it could be implemented for Fermi cards in the future. Is there now some official statement that proves otherwise? Thanks.

IcE · 08-09-2012, 22:21 | posts: 6,985 | Location: Toledo, Ohio

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Originally Posted by rewt

So what happened to all the people who said it was just a driver block and it could be implemented for Fermi cards in the future. Is there now some official statement that proves otherwise? Thanks.

If Nvidia gives a reason for not making TXAA backwards compatible it will probably something along the lines of "it's too slow" or something retarded.

VultureX · 08-09-2012, 22:33 | posts: 2,021 | Location: Netherlands

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Originally Posted by Halfmead

So...Installed latest beta driver to try the TXAA.

I'll say, it looks slightly better, but takes LOT of fps (The Secret World). On a sidenote, suddenly i can also hear my card 'breathing' heavy for cold air

(not clocked).

Below examples of FPS performance at same place standing still and also when moving:

@1920x1200
FXAA HQ: Still: 59-61 (Vsync 60hz) Moving: 46-54 fps
TXAA 2x: Still: 45-47 Moving: 30-37 fps
TXAA 4X: Still: 35-35 Moving: 22-27 fps

Not sure how those numbers will translate when in combat/action and fps probably takes a further beating but....

So, for now i'll be using good old FXAAHQ until new verified driver comes out or i get a 2nd card for SLI to pull it off

Lol the article says almost double the fps of what you're getting at 4xTXAA