I can afford a 670 GTX but...

[Sash]

I don't think i will need it, I am still considering a GTX 660 Ti.
Tell me guys, in the future will it be enough? Actually right now this IGP from ivy holds me back from playing max payne 3, ghost recon future soldier and batman arkham city.
In the future will games like GTA 5, Hitman Absolution, Crysis 3, Sim City 2013, DOTA 2, and i am really optimistic, metro last light be a problem to run at max on a GTX 660 Ti? Should i make an stand and get a GTX 670 instead? will it be able to handle games that are not even announced yet, like games developed on Unreal Engine 4?

[Cry]

It's all speculation at the moment... personally if you can wait then wait, you can then have the pick on what's best.

[orion24]

Originally Posted by Sash

In the future will games like GTA 5, Hitman Absolution, Crysis 3, Sim City 2013, DOTA 2, and i am really optimistic, metro last light be a problem to run at max on a GTX 660 Ti?

I expect that there will be a problem to run them maxed out with a 660. I'm not even sure the 670 will handle them either. But not playing maxed out doesn't mean that they won't give you a quality game experience either.

New generation of consoles is approaching with DX11 support and I expect this to make all developers update their game engines to DX11. It will no longer be the DX9-core games that just had some DX11 sauce with a patch after a few months. It'll be designed to be DX11 games. And while the new consoles GPUs will perform like a mid to low end modern GPU, I still expect the PC video games to tax the video cards a bit heavier in the near future.

[---TK---]

a 670 is very close to a 680. if a 670 cant play them games a 680 wont either most likely

[clawhamer]

If you’re questioning it, then wait.

[anticupidon]

Each thing we buy today ,end up being obsolete in the future.
Think about how much money would youlike to spend on a graphic card.
I also can afford many things,but question is
It would really worth it?

[Comrade_Jerkov]

Originally Posted by Sash

I don't think i will need it, I am still considering a GTX 660 Ti.
Tell me guys, in the future will it be enough? Actually right now this IGP from ivy holds me back from playing max payne 3, ghost recon future soldier and batman arkham city.
In the future will games like GTA 5, Hitman Absolution, Crysis 3, Sim City 2013, DOTA 2, and i am really optimistic, metro last light be a problem to run at max on a GTX 660 Ti? Should i make an stand and get a GTX 670 instead? will it be able to handle games that are not even announced yet, like games developed on Unreal Engine 4?

Personally, I would pass on this current batch of cards from both AMD and nvidia. I would purchase a cheaper card, maybe a 6950 that can play current games and upcoming games perfectly fine. That is assuming that you are currently using integrated graphics.

I don't think this current batch of cards will age all that well coming into the next generation of games. If anything, I would at least wait for the cards after the GTX780 and HD8xxx's. So namely, the "GTX880 and HD9xxx".

Just my humble opinion though...

[kanej2007]

Originally Posted by anticupidon

Each thing we buy today ,end up being obsolete in the future.
Think about how much money would youlike to spend on a graphic card.
I also can afford many things,but question is
It would really worth it?

This.

[IcE]

The 660Ti should be more than powerful enough for all games coming out in at least the next two years.

[The Phoenix]

take lil chances,grab the 670

[killer_939]

I too am questioning getting a GTX 670. I will probably end up getting one since i am getting a 2560x1440 screen but i am still going to wait as long as i can since i am questioning it. I could afford quad SLi 680's with 2x 6 core Intel cpus if i wanted but i want to buy a house one day too so.. lol. My 560 Ti should handle all my main games (wow, sc2, minecraft) at my res fine accept gta4.

GTX 660 Ti will be crap because of 1.5gb vram (at least for me), I want 3gb really that's my main reason to not get a 670 (4gb ones overpriced to hell).

[Lavans]

GTX670 should be plenty fine for a long while. Most games simply aren't that demanding. The ones that are, the current gen high end cards can swat away with relative ease.

[Comrade_Jerkov]

Slightly off topic: It will interesting to see how the games change when the next gen systems come out. I wish they weren't so tied together, but they are.

We need a few devs to create some awesome PC exclusives that pushed the bar far beyond what the consoles were capable of since they were initially exclusive to the pc like the original Crysis and World in Conflict back in 07.

PC gaming is getting stronger nonetheless and that makes me happy

[Sash]

OK i should rethink my plans, i definitely don't want a GPU that will be crushed by nextgen console hardware, rumors have it that xbox and ps will use some sorth of hd 7000 series GPU, xbox wil have 2 of them but not running like crossfire, so i guess if i get a GTX 670 it will have similar processing power to the next gen consoles?

[Lavans]

Originally Posted by Sash

OK i should rethink my plans, i definitely don't want a GPU that will be crushed by nextgen console hardware, rumors have it that xbox and ps will use some sorth of hd 7000 series GPU, xbox wil have 2 of them but not running like crossfire, so i guess if i get a GTX 670 it will have similar processing power to the next gen consoles?

Obviously that's just speculation at this point. Nothing official has been revealed about the next XBox and PS systems. Regardless, there are no confirmed games that are more graphically demanding games than BF3 to be released in the near future. You'll probably get a good 2 years of use out of a GTX670, which is fairly average for a high end part when looking at gaming at the highest possible settings.

[CPC_RedDawn]

Originally Posted by Comrade_Jerkov

Slightly off topic: It will interesting to see how the games change when the next gen systems come out. I wish they weren't so tied together, but they are.

We need a few devs to create some awesome PC exclusives that pushed the bar far beyond what the consoles were capable of since they were initially exclusive to the pc like the original Crysis and World in Conflict back in 07.

PC gaming is getting stronger nonetheless and that makes me happy

Crysis 1, Warhead, Crysis 2 w/ DX11 Texture Mod, STALKER, Clear Sky, Call Of Pripyat, Metro 2033, Batman AA & AC, DOTA2, Total War Games, Battlefield 3,

The list goes on, yea sure some of these are on consoles... but to what degree, they already prove that devs have been and still are supporting the PC platform more and more.

Battlefield 3 is the best example, I ran BF3 at 720p and set it to Low and it still looks and plays 100x better than on PS3 (which DICE say is the best console version...).

Just look at Free 2 Play games, they are becoming extremely popular. War Inc Battlezone, Tribes, Team Fortress 2, BlackLight, soon to be released Warface and many more. All free games doing extremely well and all mainly on PC.

Just look what happened at E3, with companies showing off their new engines and rubbing it in the face of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. By saying "here is what we want to be doing now, not rehashing old engines with new tweaks!"

Epic with UE4, Square Enix with their Amazing new engine (cant remember name), DICE with Frostbite 2 and Crytek with Cryengine 3 both running on consoles and both produce puke compared to PC counterparts. And then there is that title by Ubisoft, Watchdogs... that HAS to be running on PC hardware and has to be a new engine. It looked too good for current consoles, or the consoles have some voodoo witch doctor inside them that we dont know about yet.

PC gaming is more alive now than ever, I have been on STEAM since its launch and I have watched its number grow from a messily 100,000+ to boasting 5,000,000+ active member on peak times every day.

It makes me happy, very happy

[main_shoby]

Originally Posted by Sash

I don't think i will need it, I am still considering a GTX 660 Ti.
Tell me guys, in the future will it be enough? Actually right now this IGP from ivy holds me back from playing max payne 3, ghost recon future soldier and batman arkham city.
In the future will games like GTA 5, Hitman Absolution, Crysis 3, Sim City 2013, DOTA 2, and i am really optimistic, metro last light be a problem to run at max on a GTX 660 Ti? Should i make an stand and get a GTX 670 instead? will it be able to handle games that are not even announced yet, like games developed on Unreal Engine 4?

using HD 4000 for these games? bro, right now i am gpuless lol and im very much disappointed with this igp. i had to lower down dota 2's graphics and resolution.
medium low settings at 1280x960 to make it run 30-35 frames, which in my book are NOT smooth.
also, we dont know how good \ bad 660ti will be. at this time, we can say 670 will be able to handle stated titles with less effort.

[Comrade_Jerkov]

Originally Posted by CPC_RedDawn

Crysis 1, Warhead, Crysis 2 w/ DX11 Texture Mod, STALKER, Clear Sky, Call Of Pripyat, Metro 2033, Batman AA & AC, DOTA2, Total War Games, Battlefield 3,

The list goes on, yea sure some of these are on consoles... but to what degree, they already prove that devs have been and still are supporting the PC platform more and more.

Battlefield 3 is the best example, I ran BF3 at 720p and set it to Low and it still looks and plays 100x better than on PS3 (which DICE say is the best console version...).

Just look at Free 2 Play games, they are becoming extremely popular. War Inc Battlezone, Tribes, Team Fortress 2, BlackLight, soon to be released Warface and many more. All free games doing extremely well and all mainly on PC.

Just look what happened at E3, with companies showing off their new engines and rubbing it in the face of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. By saying "here is what we want to be doing now, not rehashing old engines with new tweaks!"

Epic with UE4, Square Enix with their Amazing new engine (cant remember name), DICE with Frostbite 2 and Crytek with Cryengine 3 both running on consoles and both produce puke compared to PC counterparts. And then there is that title by Ubisoft, Watchdogs... that HAS to be running on PC hardware and has to be a new engine. It looked too good for current consoles, or the consoles have some voodoo witch doctor inside them that we dont know about yet.

PC gaming is more alive now than ever, I have been on STEAM since its launch and I have watched its number grow from a messily 100,000+ to boasting 5,000,000+ active member on peak times every day.

It makes me happy, very happy

Yeah I was really happy when I found out BF3 was made specifically on the PC first and THEN was ported to the consoles. Nice to see a change there.

I remember how much I hated Steam when it first came out. I wanted to go to good ol' WON network

[Comrade_Jerkov]

Originally Posted by Sash

I don't think i will need it, I am still considering a GTX 660 Ti.
Tell me guys, in the future will it be enough? Actually right now this IGP from ivy holds me back from playing max payne 3, ghost recon future soldier and batman arkham city.
In the future will games like GTA 5, Hitman Absolution, Crysis 3, Sim City 2013, DOTA 2, and i am really optimistic, metro last light be a problem to run at max on a GTX 660 Ti? Should i make an stand and get a GTX 670 instead? will it be able to handle games that are not even announced yet, like games developed on Unreal Engine 4?

Looking at this again, though. If you're thinking running about things on max settings, or at least close to max, for the next two years then I would go with 670 or spend a tad bit more (or maybe not depending on which 670 you were looking at) and get a 7970 instead.

You can get a reference 7970 for 430 or you can get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125413 for 10 bucks (US) more and use that nice cooling to overclock it. Either way most 7970's can max out the overdrive sliders on stock voltage.

[Strikerx80]

Originally Posted by killer_939

I too am questioning getting a GTX 670. I will probably end up getting one since i am getting a 2560x1440 screen but i am still going to wait as long as i can since i am questioning it. I could afford quad SLi 680's with 2x 6 core Intel cpus if i wanted but i want to buy a house one day too so.. lol. My 560 Ti should handle all my main games (wow, sc2, minecraft) at my res fine accept gta4.

GTX 660 Ti will be crap because of 1.5gb vram (at least for me), I want 3gb really that's my main reason to not get a 670 (4gb ones overpriced to hell).

the 670 is a nice jump over your 560ti. i came from a 560ti and am noticing double the performance. it will only get better with future drivers.

[IcE]

A 670 should really be good for a long ass time. I mean, my 470 at 480 speeds is still raping every game I play. Nothing has changed in years.

[Lavans]

Originally Posted by Comrade_Jerkov

Looking at this again, though. If you're thinking running about things on max settings, or at least close to max, for the next two years then I would go with 670 or spend a tad bit more (or maybe not depending on which 670 you were looking at) and get a 7970 instead.

You can get a reference 7970 for 430 or you can get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125413 for 10 bucks (US) more and use that nice cooling to overclock it. Either way most 7970's can max out the overdrive sliders on stock voltage.

This makes absolutely no sense o.0
Why spend more money on a slower card just to overclock it, when you can get your hands on a faster card and overclock that as well?

[main_shoby]

Originally Posted by Lavans

This makes absolutely no sense o.0
Why spend more money on a slower card just to overclock it, when you can get your hands on a faster card and overclock that as well?

very true.
see ------->this
you chose GTX680 its your choice on stock 7970 is faster than 670 while slower than 680 (in few cases) and when overclocked, it can perform same \ better than overclocked 680GTX. there are a few reviews about overclocked 670 vs 7970 vs 680.
looking at 3dmark11 scores is not the whole story, right ?
so for 440$ once overclocked, you get something same \ better than Overclocked 680 gtx. but why you think that one wont overclock these cards ? its about scaleability and everyone knows 7970 scales very well and has enough headroom to reach 1200mhz easily.
not overclocking these parts is like having a "k" series intel processor and leave it at stock :/ makes no sense.

[Lavans]

Originally Posted by main_shoby

you chose GTX680 its your choice on stock 7970 is faster than 670 while slower than 680 (in few cases) and when overclocked, it can perform same \ better than overclocked 680GTX.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-670-review/
http://www.overclockersclub .com/reviews/nvidia_gtx670/ (remove the spaces)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...view,3200.html

The only time a 7970 will beat a GTX670 at triple monitor resolutions, higher resolutions than 1080p, or in some games with tessellation. Otherwise, the GTX670 has been proven to be the faster card.

In most tests, when the 7970 takes the lead over the 670, it's usually by a small margin. In the tests where the 670 takes the lead, it's usually by a much larger margin.

Furthermore, overclock results aren't guaranteed. The 7970 is known to be a great overclocker, but that doesn't mean that every 7970 will be capable of sustaining a high enough overclock to genuinely be the better card.

[main_shoby]

well, guru3d says something, youtube shows something, anandtech says something :/
i ordered mine its coming today. ill see how it really is. if not, newegg always had a good return policy. you know, when spending 440$, adding anothing 80$ wont hurt lol.
just looking for best bang of bucks here.