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murk00
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Videocard: EVGA GTX 680 SLI
Processor: Intel Core i7-3770K
Mainboard: Asus Maximus V Formula
Memory: G.SKILL Trident X 16Gb
Soundcard: Intel 520 Series(240Gb)
PSU: CORSAIR 1200 watt
Default GURU Help**Asus Maximus V Formula Z77 Help**Memory issue** - 07-15-2012, 19:04 | posts: 6 | Location: Indiana

Guru in your review you you just did on this motherboard you used this ram here:
2x4096MB DDR3 2666MHz XMP CAS11 TridentX (1600 MHz at default).

I bought this ram here for my system:
G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX

Neither of the rams I used or yours are listed as compatible ram on there site, what GSkill ram can I buy?

I want 16 gigs and it to be red to match the motherboard, and be at least 2400+ speed.

I have tried 3 different ddr3 rams, and cant get any to post, also all 3 rams I tried do not show as compatible ram on there site, but the ram you used isent listed also.

Any help would be much appreciated

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Pill Monster
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PSU: AcBel M8 750
Default 07-15-2012, 19:37 | posts: 20,460 | Location: NZ

Just because ram isn't on the ASUS QVR list doesn't mean it's incompatible.

Could be something else causing your rig to fail post....
   
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Default 07-15-2012, 21:01 | posts: 5,621 | Location: USA

^ this.

if you cant post, put memory in, turn pc on and then press MEM OK button.
   
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Default 07-15-2012, 23:08 | posts: 2,754 | Location: Australia

I agree, your computer should post fine with that RAM. Have you tried using the other 2 slots, and also just one stick at a time etc?
   
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Default 07-15-2012, 23:12 | posts: 1,242 | Location: Melbourne, FL

DDR3-2400 do as others suggest and use MemOK!

Just because memory is rated at 2400 doesn't mean the board and CPU are guaranteed to take it.. Intel spec sheet lists 1600 as supported but ASUS claims much higher memory support.. I think 2400 may be pushing it.
   
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Default 07-15-2012, 23:28 | posts: 20,460 | Location: NZ

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DDR3-2400 do as others suggest and use MemOK!

Just because memory is rated at 2400 doesn't mean the board and CPU are guaranteed to take it.. Intel spec sheet lists 1600 as supported but ASUS claims much higher memory support.. I think 2400 may be pushing it.
I would agree except Hilbert used 2666mhz memory with the OP's board & CPU without issue.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-m...mula-review/11
   
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Default 07-16-2012, 01:19 | posts: 6 | Location: Indiana

Thanks for all the replies guys. I tried using only 1 stick, but still no luck. Iv tried using in other slots and still won't work either.
   
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Default 07-16-2012, 01:50 | posts: 963 | Location: Australia

If you have any other ram you can use to get booted?
If so use the other ram to boot into bios.
Manually set your ram voltage to 1.65v save settings and exit bios and once it reboots and posts shutdown quickly.
Swap out the ram with your G.Skill Trident ram.

I'm only guessing, but I'd say the asus board is not auto setting the voltage to 1.65v on the initial boot of your ram (1.65v that's the default for your ram).
Just an assumption, but maybe worth a try.
   
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Soundcard: Intel 520 Series(240Gb)
PSU: CORSAIR 1200 watt
Default 07-16-2012, 01:59 | posts: 6 | Location: Indiana

Iv tried two other sets of ddr3 ram from corsair with the same result. I'm wondering if something is wrong with mobo.
   
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smashly
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Default 07-16-2012, 02:06 | posts: 963 | Location: Australia

Just out of curiosity, was the corsair ram 1.65v as well?

It really shouldn't matter and the board should pick it up and set the correct voltage on initial boot up.
But if your using ram that's rated above intels standard specs then sometimes you gotta play around to get it to work (even though it shouldn't be the case).
Have you tried any ram that is 1333/1600Mhz 1.5v?
   
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murk00
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Videocard: EVGA GTX 680 SLI
Processor: Intel Core i7-3770K
Mainboard: Asus Maximus V Formula
Memory: G.SKILL Trident X 16Gb
Soundcard: Intel 520 Series(240Gb)
PSU: CORSAIR 1200 watt
Default 07-16-2012, 02:08 | posts: 6 | Location: Indiana

Yeh I tried some corsair 1600mhz 1.5v, and got same results.
   
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PSU: AcBel M8 750
Default 07-16-2012, 02:25 | posts: 20,460 | Location: NZ

Take it to a PC store and ask them to test it with completely different ram, it's only a 5min job they shud do it free of charge.
   
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Default 07-16-2012, 02:28 | posts: 963 | Location: Australia

RMA the mobo.

Has that mobo ever booted successfully into the bios?
What code do you get on the mobo display when turned on?

To be truthful I hate Asus with a passion.
I currently own a Gene-Z gen 3 and it's a great board while it works, but when it goes wrong it's just a mystery to get it to boot.
Sure out of the box it boots fine..
Play with some settings and it fails boot cause of a bad setting..
Then all hell breaks loose..
Nothing will make it boot again until I actually pull everything off the board and and power it up and down repeatedly untile it finally decides to boot with an error.
Then I can connect all my crap back in the board piece by piece and it finally boots without error.
It wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't water cooling, but it's damn painful.

Mind you I should only have to clr cmos, but no this pos is a f'n pr*ck to boot if you corrupt it while oc'ing.
Have rma'd this pos 3 times cause of he same mystery boot crap, I have given up on the mobo, it works and I just don't toy with it, I just use it.
Sorta takes the fun out of oc'ing.

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Default 07-16-2012, 03:39 | posts: 5,621 | Location: USA

not asus's fault you dont know how to "mess" around with the bios.
   
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Default 07-16-2012, 06:51 | posts: 963 | Location: Australia

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not asus's fault you dont know how to "mess" around with the bios.
Get real, the board was made to oc and tinker with.
Sure I don't know about all settings, but I'm not clueless either.
Clr Cmos should be enough to reset settings on any board and leave it at least bootable providing your hardware isn't faulty or fried.
So yes it is Asus fault that their crap although feature rich and innovative is just so hit and miss.

It's not the first Asus mobo I've had that has the woefull fan/lights no boot/ no error code problems with.

While I use another manufactures mobo that cost 1 third the price with the same hardware plugged up and make a bad setting, can't boot, clr cmos and it just boots.. no mystery,. no pull cards/ram/power/leads etc..

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Default 07-16-2012, 07:09 | posts: 20,460 | Location: NZ

Smashly if you want info about ASUS BIOS options check out the ROG site.

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PSU: Enermax 1000w / 1020w
Default 07-16-2012, 07:24 | posts: 963 | Location: Australia

Thanks Pill Monster.
Have exhausted all avenues over a period of 7months with my Asus lemon mobo.
So now days I don't tinker with it, if it not broken, don't fix it comes to mind with my asus board.
It runs my 2700K at 4.7 Ghz and it capable of better, but the pain of experimenting with voltages and settings just makes it an accident waiting to happen.
eg: set to lower cpu voltage, won't boot, clr cmos, won't boot..
Pull ram out, won't boot, pull video cards out, won't boot, detach everything from the board apart from cpu, 1 stick ram, 1 card.. still won't boot.
Try cpu + power, no ram, no graphics card and still no error or boot..
Hold finger on clr cmos and jam power button repeatedly and vioala, error code at last.
Now put everything back together 1 piece at a time and boot each time and error code changes each boot (as it should).
Everything back together and boot without error.. yay
Now load my last working saved bios profile.. all good.
Adjust cpu votage slightly higher.. doh not high enough.. won't boot..
Wash, lather, rinse and repeat the steps above..

As I said when you have it on water, it's damn painful popping cards in and out.
The above is just an exampl;e of how easy it is to get a mystery I won't turn on unless you waste lots of time on me mobo.

So now when I get the urge to play oc and tinker I use my GA-z77/3570k and I don't have to jump through hoops if settings go wrong.

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PSU: Enermax Platimax 750W
Default 07-16-2012, 09:17 | posts: 2,754 | Location: Australia

Have you looked at updating your bios?

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MAXIMUS V FORMULA BIOS 0502
Improve system stability.
2012.07.05


MAXIMUS V FORMULA BIOS 0402
Improve system stability.
2012.06.15
I dare say if you haven't got bios 0502 installed which was released a week or so ago, that it is your issue! Especially since the last two updated, both of which available in the last month, both improve system stability. It is a system stability problem that you are experiencing
   
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PSU: Corsair Professional 850
Default 07-16-2012, 09:22 | posts: 1,242 | Location: Melbourne, FL

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Have you looked at updating your bios?

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I dare say if you haven't got bios 0502 installed which was released a week or so ago, that it is your issue! Especially since the last two updated, both of which available in the last month, both improve system stability. It is a system stability problem that you are experiencing
Almost every single BIOS release from ASUS says that.. last 5 or 6 BIOS's for Sabertooth P67 have said improved stability but I have been stable the whole time so who knows under what circumstance that is...

Wish they would give more info in their release notes
   
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Default 07-16-2012, 09:57 | posts: 2,754 | Location: Australia

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Almost every single BIOS release from ASUS says that.. last 5 or 6 BIOS's for Sabertooth P67 have said improved stability but I have been stable the whole time so who knows under what circumstance that is...

Wish they would give more info in their release notes
That's true. I guess it may be hard to define specific stability issues, maybe the cases people have outlined in this thread would be a good start!

It sounds like you are probably with the majority with the P67 Sabertooth, in that you haven't had stability issues. As for the others, I guess the best advice would be to install the latet bios and see if that helps.
   
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Default 07-16-2012, 10:32 | posts: 20,460 | Location: NZ

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Almost every single BIOS release from ASUS says that..
Lol I was thinking the same thing....

When it comes to release notes ASUS seem to prefer the "one description fits all" method....almost as bad as their god-awful descriptions of BIOS options.

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Default 07-16-2012, 18:20 | posts: 5,621 | Location: USA

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While I use another manufactures mobo that cost 1 third the price with the same hardware plugged up and make a bad setting, can't boot, clr cmos and it just boots.. no mystery,. no pull cards/ram/power/leads etc..
Ive never had to do that with any of my asus boards. Even a few days ago when i was tweaking ram timing, when it was unstable it would start up, reset and say "overclocking failed". That must be a real hassle for you, lol. And you must be finding mystery options to make the computer require to be physically be messed with; as ive tested just about every option in my bios and nevrr had any problems.
   
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Default 07-16-2012, 18:36 | posts: 1,919

Uh, where the living gods are you guys getting these Formula 5s from cause I am looking at one of these boards and NO WHERE has them listed yet, UK resident by the way.
   
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Default 07-23-2012, 21:51 | posts: 1 | Location: S. Texas

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Guru in your review you you just did on this motherboard you used this ram here:
2x4096MB DDR3 2666MHz XMP CAS11 TridentX (1600 MHz at default).

I bought this ram here for my system:
G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX

Neither of the rams I used or yours are listed as compatible ram on there site, what GSkill ram can I buy?

I want 16 gigs and it to be red to match the motherboard, and be at least 2400+ speed.

I have tried 3 different ddr3 rams, and cant get any to post, also all 3 rams I tried do not show as compatible ram on there site, but the ram you used isent listed also.

Any help would be much appreciated
Seems to be working fine on my Formula. Make sure the slow mode switch is set to OFF (mine was ON out of the box). Make sure your LN2 jumper is set correctly, too.

   
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