core, PLL, and vram voltage for power edition gtx 670?? - Page 3

Unwinder · 07-21-2012, 11:52 | posts: 10,312 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by cowie

how its little bro the 670 pe working out?

No ideas, I have no 670 PE here.

cowie · 07-21-2012, 12:21 | posts: 10,858 | Location: new jersey

Oh jeez,i should have known that lol.

eternitykh · 07-23-2012, 01:29 | posts: 296

so does this work on the lightning only so far? or does this work on any reference 670/680 as well? i got confused on unwinder's update.

xoleras · 07-23-2012, 04:10 | posts: 61

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Originally Posted by eternitykh

so does this work on the lightning only so far? or does this work on any reference 670/680 as well? i got confused on unwinder's update.

Its not going to work on any card, no. Especially reference, from what I gather the lightning has a specific IC being programmed.

tviceman · 07-23-2012, 23:37 | posts: 8

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Originally Posted by Unwinder

No ideas, I have no 670 PE here.

For the love of god.

Do I need to mail you my 670 PE?

Xnerdz · 07-24-2012, 01:30 | posts: 8 | Location: Québec, Canada

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Originally Posted by tviceman

For the love of god.

Do I need to mail you my 670 PE?

For the sake of all PE owners, do it!

anDrasch · 07-24-2012, 09:46 | posts: 53 | Location: Germany, Berlin

silent update

at AB downloadpage

tviceman · 07-24-2012, 14:35 | posts: 8

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Originally Posted by Xnerdz

For the sake of all PE owners, do it!

I wasn't kidding. I will do it.

EDIT: The afterburner update says it supports the voltage adjustments on the 670 PE. Downloading now to test.

Xnerdz · 07-25-2012, 01:56 | posts: 8 | Location: Québec, Canada

Hell yeah!

Now we're in business!

Xnerdz · 07-26-2012, 17:36 | posts: 8 | Location: Québec, Canada

I've done some tests with the new afterburner and I have something to say...
Thank you SOOO much Unwinder!
It works great with my PE and I'm so glad

people like you sacrifice themselves for the good of everyone when it comes to do what they love in life...

That's honorable and again, thank you for your work!

fgw · 07-27-2012, 11:25 | posts: 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xnerdz

I've done some tests with the new afterburner and I have something to say...
Thank you SOOO much Unwinder!
It works great with my PE and I'm so glad

people like you sacrifice themselves for the good of everyone when it comes to do what they love in life...

That's honorable and again, thank you for your work!

what are your results, pls post some info:

interested in:

max possible voltage achievable with afterburner 2.2.3
your max stable oc and the applied voltage
bios version of your card

still not decided if i will go with the 680 lightning or the 670 pe you have.

thanks

darkadi · 07-30-2012, 17:34 | posts: 1 | Location: POLAND

Hi, I’ve noticed that score in 3Dmark11 decreased while I add some voltage in MSI Afterburner 2.2.3 (+20mv core voltage, +50 core clock, power limit 114, +600MHz memory clock, P score ~ 9600 ) but when I put +0mv on core voltage, +50 core clock, power limit 114, +600MHz memory clock, anything else untouched P score is ~ 9800. More Vcore = less score in 3Dmark11.
Anybody have seen this weird thing?

msi-afterburner · 08-03-2012, 14:20 | posts: 401

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Originally Posted by darkadi

Hi, I’ve noticed that score in 3Dmark11 decreased while I add some voltage in MSI Afterburner 2.2.3 (+20mv core voltage, +50 core clock, power limit 114, +600MHz memory clock, P score ~ 9600 ) but when I put +0mv on core voltage, +50 core clock, power limit 114, +600MHz memory clock, anything else untouched P score is ~ 9800. More Vcore = less score in 3Dmark11.
Anybody have seen this weird thing?

Hi~
This is likely to occur.
Because this is the NVIDIA limit chip works, overvoltage maybe decline in the value of Boost.
But if you adjust more offset value will need adjust more voltage,the result is score will enhanced.
Thanks.

Xnerdz · 08-09-2012, 15:41 | posts: 8 | Location: Québec, Canada

Quote:

Originally Posted by fgw

what are your results, pls post some info:

interested in:

max possible voltage achievable with afterburner 2.2.3
your max stable oc and the applied voltage
bios version of your card

still not decided if i will go with the 680 lightning or the 670 pe you have.

thanks

Sorry for the late answer (been one week on vacation)

In heaven at 1920x1080 at maxed settings:
With 2.2.2: 53.3fps max
With 2.2.3: 55.0fps max (with only +40mV on core +30mem +30aux)
so it DOES help alot. All thanks to Unwinder.
Notice that 55fps in heaven with those settings is in avg OCed 680 range score (without overvoltage though). So here is your answer between a PE or a lightning.
If you need more info, tell me and I will post some pics.

Quote:

Hi, I’ve noticed that score in 3Dmark11 decreased while I add some voltage in MSI Afterburner 2.2.3 (+20mv core voltage, +50 core clock, power limit 114, +600MHz memory clock, P score ~ 9600 ) but when I put +0mv on core voltage, +50 core clock, power limit 114, +600MHz memory clock, anything else untouched P score is ~ 9800. More Vcore = less score in 3Dmark11.
Anybody have seen this weird thing?

Ya, mine throtles down when I add more voltage but it still helps in general so I don't care at all, it's just a new parameter to handle when benchmarking now (no thanks to nvidia lol)
Yet I haven't tested the overvoltage in 3dmark so I can't say if it really hurts.

tviceman · 08-28-2012, 19:42 | posts: 8

Why is my gtx670 PE now suddenly being detected as a gtx680 in afterburner 2.2.3 and I no longer have voltage control for the vram or pll? It is happening with both the latest drivers and the previous beta's.

SirPauly · 08-28-2012, 20:27 | posts: 30

FWIW: AfterBurner is listed as GTX 670PE with the 306.02 drivers here and volts are adjustable.

Unwinder · 09-16-2012, 09:01 | posts: 10,312 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

Sad news, due to NVIDIA pressure MSI will be releasing 2.2.4 with capped core voltage control for 680 Lightnings. So I don't recommend Lightning owners to upgrade.
Personally I'm really mad with such decision.

cowie · 09-16-2012, 12:01 | posts: 10,858 | Location: new jersey

really?damb that sucks
I hear that the newer lightning's dont like older unlocked ln2 bios either.
welcome back hope you had a good vaca

Eluder · 09-16-2012, 13:41 | posts: 41

What is the capped voltage going to be?
Guess my GTX 680 Lightning is the first and last MSI GPU I buy.

Unwinder · 09-16-2012, 13:54 | posts: 10,312 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by Eluder

What is the capped voltage going to be?
Guess my GTX 680 Lightning is the first and last MSI GPU I buy.

it will be standard 1175mV, similar to all other 680 on the market. Advanced core voltage control of Lightning will be totally disabled, so it won't be different comparing to any other 680.

Eluder · 09-16-2012, 14:02 | posts: 41

Wow, maybe this is my last nVidia product too... I haven't had one in 10 years probably as I've been using ATI/AMD forever, and I finally switch to team green and they do this.

Adios to nVidia I guess! Back to AMD for me for my next card.

elbubi · 09-16-2012, 17:01 | posts: 92 | Location: Rosario, Argentina

In fact, that's really sad news Unwinder... I feel raped by MSi once again, I bought the "top-notch" 680 and now I will end up with a reference one, should have bought the DCII instead or any reference one and same me a lot of a bucks... Shame on MSi for advertising and selling what they cannot stand.

The only way out is to keep using 2.2.3 right? I guess we'll be losing the new AB enhancements... If I'm not mistaken, we'll be stuck with drivers either, Nvidia will surely launch new drivers with some new tweak so AB 2.2.3 no longer work with them, and we will be forced to let voltage control behind if we want to be up to date with drivers.

HUGE disapointment here, shame on MSi for first fooling us by selling a feature the didn't even know for sure it was posible, and then for letting us down when things got warm.

Kind Regards as always Unwinder, I hope you can independantly bring us some relief, but I know your hands may be tied this time...

Unwinder · 09-17-2012, 05:22 | posts: 10,312 | Location: Taganrog, Russia

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Originally Posted by elbubi

The only way out is to keep using 2.2.3 right? I guess we'll be losing the new AB enhancements...

2.2.4, which MSI is planning to release soon, is 2.2.3 binary with edited MSI hardware database. So it is be possible for power users to edit the profiles to disable standard NVIDIA voltage control and unlock direct unlimited voltage control via PWM. Not sure if MSI will require to add some additional locks to future versions.

famich · 09-17-2012, 08:28 | posts: 15 | Location: CZ ****EU********

Hello, Unwinder, let me to thank you for your information - I do feel the same,
managed to get an excellent card that can do 1430 MHz on air

and I have planned to put it on water and have a nice boost for the time to come .

Can we hope that you will give us some hints as to edit those setting in the future AFB release ? Thanks .. I think in this way we could fool the future drivers as well

elbubi · 09-17-2012, 13:20 | posts: 92 | Location: Rosario, Argentina

Thanks for the extended info regarding 2.2.4 Alexey. Have to wait and see what the tie brings then... And hope that uber skilled people like you find workarounds for this non-sense regulation.

One last and may be silly question: unlocked LN2 BIOS will continue to work as intended (1210mv vs 1175mv/300% vs 133%) or Msi/Nvidia is going to restrict that too?

Kind Regards and thanks once again for your support.