IGN: Why Do People 'Hate' EA? - Seriously? What is that all about? We asked EA. - Page 5

lucidus · 06-22-2012, 10:35 | posts: 3,267 | Location: UAE

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Originally Posted by Redemption80

I think they are quite schizophrenic with it tbh.
Either that or it depends more on the developer not the publisher, as some games like Dead Space or Alice Madness seem to get very little in the way of patches, not that I felt they were any huge issues with those games, while BF3 seems to get what feels like a monthly 2gb patch.

Budgeting I suppose, they don't view Dead Space as a highly profitable game unlike BF3.

Damien_Azreal · 06-22-2012, 13:34 | posts: 3,463 | Location: Kansas, USA

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Originally Posted by Redemption80

I think they are quite schizophrenic with it tbh.
Either that or it depends more on the developer not the publisher, as some games like Dead Space or Alice Madness seem to get very little in the way of patches, not that I felt they were any huge issues with those games, while BF3 seems to get what feels like a monthly 2gb patch.

While updates can be up to the developer, the final call still comes down to the publisher. As the ones supplying funding for the project, it's their call on if a game gets continued funding for future support and updates.

And with EA owning the majority of the studios it publishes games for... (like Visceral Games, Danger Close, DICE, BioWare.....) it's not surprising that they pick and choose who gets the funding for future support.

DICE gets it for BF3 because they are still releasing DLC for that title, DLC they can milk profits off of... so, continue support.
Dead Space... no DLC. So, EA's "interest" in supporting the title after release is thrown out the window.

It's reasons like this that id Software didn't want to have EA publish RAGE, or why People Can Fly were very unhappy with how BulletStorm was handled after release.

Icanium · 06-22-2012, 22:59 | posts: 858 | Location: Detroit,MI.USA

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Originally Posted by Raiga

Total Bull and What Da ****..are you an EA employee from the Marketing department? EA sleeper agent seeping viral, incorrect news to confuse the masses?

I installed both the games:
Worlds of Ultima - Martian Dreams
Worlds of Ultima - The Savage Empire

And both of the run on DosBOX without requiring an Origin login (nor DRM from EA\origins)

Well, how do you expect me to know the EULA is disinformation and not needed.

Source EA EULA
B. Access to Software, Online Features And/Or Services. An EA/Origin Account, including the acceptance of EA’s online Terms of Service and Privacy Policy (available at www.ea.com), the installation of Origin client application (www.origin/about.com) (or superceding download management software) as well as acceptance of the Origin (or superceding download management software) End User License Agreement, may be required to access the Software, online services and/or features and to download and apply Software updates and patches (if any). Only licensed software can be used to access online services and/or features (if any), including downloadable content, and access to such features is limited to you and your immediately family or members of your household.

k1net1cs · 06-23-2012, 02:45 | posts: 3,328

Which part of may be required do you not understand?
As in 'might be' and not 'is'.

Icanium · 06-23-2012, 04:02 | posts: 858 | Location: Detroit,MI.USA

I understand that "might be required" is not the same as "not required."

Damien_Azreal · 06-23-2012, 04:58 | posts: 3,463 | Location: Kansas, USA

You quote the EA eEULA and act surprised because it states you may need to use a bit of EA software to run an EA title...
Also, even on gog.com... you do know that the majority of those EULAs are simply copied from other releases. A lot of the time they are no rewritten to take into account if required software has been changed.

I recall people complaining because they bought Alan Wake on gog because it mentioned STEAM somewhere. But, the gog version of Alan Wake runs without STEAM...

k1net1cs · 06-23-2012, 05:02 | posts: 3,328

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Originally Posted by Icanium

I understand that "might be required" is not the same as "not required."

And "might be required" is not the same as "required" either.
Also, breaking news, the sky's not falling.

Cromat · 06-23-2012, 08:38 | posts: 40 | Location: South Africa

came across this on the net i think ill just post it hear

http://youtu.be/e-LE0ycgkBQ

JonasBeckman · 09-05-2012, 17:05 | posts: 7,726 | Location: Sweden

Doesn't have to be a bad thing or so but this seems to be a good place for it.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...le-player-game

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Publisher EA has detailed the company's focus on growing social and mobile functions in gaming by highlighting its lack of single-player games in development.

EA Labels boss Frank Gibeau said he was "proud" of the way EA has adapted.

"We are very proud of the way EA evolved with consumers. ," Gibeau explained in a document for the forthcoming Cloud Gaming USA Conference & Exhibition (thanks, Superannuation), due to be held later this month.

"Today, all of our games include online applications and digital services that make them live 24/7/365.

"FIFA is a perfect example - available across 12 different platforms, FIFA fans can check their standings on their mobile device or tablet, manipulate their teams on Facebook or play an immersive game of FIFA on their PC or console. Everything is connected so the user can pick up just where they left off from anywhere."

This connectivity is just the beginning, Gibeau added, with other major EA franchises soon to get similar treatment.

"We're deploying similar experiences in our other popular brands over the next year including Madden, Battlefield and SimCity and you'll continue to see more and more of this from EA."

Previously single-player EA franchises such as Mass Effect have recently added multiplayer components. Mass Effect 3 allowed users to interact with the main game via an iPhone and Android app.

Claustrophobic horror series Dead Space will offer an optional co-op mode for the first time in Dead Space 3. There's also been rumblings that Dragon Age 3 will include some kind of multiplayer component, too.

Of course it's probably pretty clear already since all of the titles currently in the works have some sort of online capabilities added to them from Dead Space to Mass Effect and traditional MP games like say Battlefield or Medal of Honor.

Nchinmay · 09-05-2012, 17:28 | posts: 210 | Location: NYC

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Originally Posted by JonasBeckman

Doesn't have to be a bad thing or so but this seems to be a good place for it.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...le-player-game

Of course it's probably pretty clear already since all of the titles currently in the works have some sort of online capabilities added to them from Dead Space to Mass Effect and traditional MP games like say Battlefield or Medal of Honor.

I am sure Battlefield 4 will be F2P and pay to win

lucidus · 09-05-2012, 17:41 | posts: 3,267 | Location: UAE

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Originally Posted by Nchinmay

I am sure Battlefield 4 will be F2P and pay to win

Seeing the success of TF2, they may actually do that.

cowie · 09-05-2012, 21:29 | posts: 10,889 | Location: new jersey

After what they did to MOH a few years back ea is dead to me.

Redemption80 · 09-05-2012, 21:46 | posts: 13,445 | Location: Glasgow

Very true, MOH 2010 is in my top 3 worst games of the last 5 years.

I'm a graphics whore though, and EA bring out lots of games with nice graphics as well as sports games on the PC, so i have no choice but to like them.

Ilya · 09-05-2012, 21:46 | posts: 167 | Location: USA,NY,Brooklyn

they destroyed Ultima Online.......nuff said

Nchinmay · 09-06-2012, 03:41 | posts: 210 | Location: NYC

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Originally Posted by lucidus

Seeing the success of TF2, they may actually do that.

They have said that C&C Generals 2 is only the first of their many future F2P releases. And TF2 was made by Valve.. I haven't played much of BF Heros but EA isn't exactly a favorite on the internets when it comes to F2P games.

lucidus · 09-06-2012, 04:06 | posts: 3,267 | Location: UAE

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Originally Posted by Nchinmay

They have said that C&C Generals 2 is only the first of their many future F2P releases. And TF2 was made by Valve.. I haven't played much of BF Heros but EA isn't exactly a favorite on the internets when it comes to F2P games.

If they see TF2 as successful wouldn't they want to have some of the action for themselves? I loved C&C as a kid, I don't like the direction it's heading to right now. If C&C succeeds, they win and also the folks who like it (also more F2P stuff like a possible BF4 F2P). If it doesn't, no big deal because C&C isn't a hot property any more.

tweakpower · 09-06-2012, 06:08 | posts: 932 | Location: Serbia

I don't hate, i just don't like. But, i can like or don't like games, not company who create them. In most cases, i don't even know who made what game i play lol.

But from mine own experience, i know EA as "Don't care, make money" corp

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Black_ice_Spain · 09-06-2012, 07:46 | posts: 4,155 | Location: Spain

Doubt that BF4 will be P2W, it's the only competition to COD they have, and COD is making lots of money as it is, its an online FPS after all.

And they also have BF heroes and BF play4free for such bussines model (someone still plays that?)

iFRAC7UR3 · 09-06-2012, 08:00 | posts: 359 | Location: Norway

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Originally Posted by Sinaster

What you guys knows about what the **** arabs people done to my country?Once persia was at the top of the world but now its like an old sick lonely man...
But its none of your business.BTW im sorry for my earlier post.Please delete it.

you can't blame anyone else for your own downfall. every empire or region had it's days of glory and lost, and to several reasons. becoming a racist over stupid things like that is just ridiculous.

look at the Turks and the ottoman empire, even they were "unbeatable"

I'm an Arab, you hate me for such silly reasons? I feel sorry for you.

Iran and it's political stance can only be blamed on itself. be it right or wrong

lucidus · 09-06-2012, 08:05 | posts: 3,267 | Location: UAE

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Originally Posted by iFRAC7UR3

you can't blame anyone else for your own downfall. every empire or region had it's days of glory and lost, and to several reasons. becoming a racist over stupid things like that is just ridiculous.

look at the Turks and the ottoman empire, even they were "unbeatable"

I'm an Arab, you hate me for such silly reasons? I feel sorry for you.

Iran and it's political stance can only be blamed on itself. be it right or wrong

Man that post was ages ago, PM him if you have a problem with his post :-/

KissSh0t · 09-06-2012, 09:31 | posts: 907 | Location: Deep Dark Dungeon

I'm not a fan of EA.. I like DICE.. not EA.. Unfortunately EA bought DICE..

*sigh*

Raiga · 09-06-2012, 09:38 | posts: 973

They destroyed or closed down many of the good studios, pushed developers to change their initial gameplay designs, they pretty much suck...they are destroying gaming.

EA = Electronic Arseholes

sdamaged99 · 09-06-2012, 13:20 | posts: 1,912 | Location: Isle of Man

I don't like EA because Battlefield 3 has never worked for me. I've even built a new machine and it still wouldn't work. Multiplayer games will just kick me back out to the Origin screen 90% of the games i play in. I've tried everything and the game basically does not work. They were no help at all to me, so i won't be spending any money with them again.

kitch9 · 09-06-2012, 14:58 | posts: 1,855 | Location: Doncaster, England

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Originally Posted by PR-0927

Your limited perspective on history is angering. Do you have any idea what Arabs did for the world? So much science and culture.

Persians aren't an exception - one of the grandest civilizations of all time. They also brought much in science and culture.

But you're completely deluded if you think that Persia doesn't have any history of treating other groups of people like ****. Every regional group of people did it, worldwide.

Every single group of people on this planet has both benefited humanity and harmed others.

And you're utterly stupid if you want to label all Arabs as "desert-dwelling crocodile-eater uncivilized barbarian arabs" - that's generalizing MILLIONS of people based on the actions of the RULING elite WAY back hundreds of years ago.

There simply is not a better example of stupid and uneducated around here.

Oh, and by the way, if you want to point fingers at reasons for Iran's decay, do it right - the blame is correctly directed at European colonial powers (specifically Britain, France, and Russia), the United States (Shah Pahlavi stuff), Iran itself (the idiot religious lunatics running the country today), and some of the surrounding Arab states (assisting European exploitation, plus stuff like the Iraqi invasion of Iran).

Don't ever blame the common citizen. He/she doesn't control the **** that's going on, ESPECIALLY in dictatorships. And for the love of common sense, don't blame nations/regions for actions committed HUNDREDS of years ago. Stuff changes.

Here's an example - I hate Pakistan and Russia. But only their governments. Pakistanis are amazing people, and are identical to Indians (80+% of the ethnic groups are "desi" ethnic groups found also in India) and have the same language, culture, ethnicity, and history. Only difference is the national identity and the majority religious identity (and there are millions of Indian Muslims too). Russians are some of the most interesting people I've met. Totally awesome. Really interesting history.

- PR-0927

You can't argue with stupid, you just get more stupid back....

Andrew LB · 09-11-2012, 09:09 | posts: 133 | Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia

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Originally Posted by Final8ty

Then there were all those awesome developers that EA bought, back in the day, and neutered and destroyed through overbearing centralized management or neglect.

The purchase of Origin Systems back in 1992, followed by a decade of deadlines, rushed games, and utterly destroyed the last three games in the Ultima series.

from wiki: (The most public display of anger towards EA by a Developer they owned)

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Elements of Ultima VII are inspired by game creator Origin Systems' conflicts with competitor (and later owner) Electronic Arts. Origin Systems' corporate slogan was 'We Create Worlds', while the main antagonist of the story - The Guardian - is presented as a 'Destroyer of Worlds'. The three evil 'Generators' created by The Guardian in the game took the physical shapes of the contemporary Electronic Arts Logo: a cube, a sphere, and a tetrahedron. Elizabeth and Abraham, two apparently benevolent characters who later turn out to be murderers, have the initials "E" and "A". The religious cult the Fellowship is inspired by Scientology.