Max Payne 3 Performance Thread

[Boggy68]

Originally Posted by pokerapar88

And we complain about Catalyst drivers :S
Man, driver making must be hell.

It's because we like to fiddle and tweak and I am very guilty of this.

I think I have pin pointed my woes to checking the box "Turn off Windows write-cache buffer flushing on the device" under the hard drive Policies. Shame I didn't uncheck this box before reinstalling Max Payne and trying 3 other drivers... If anyone else has checked this box, it may be worth unchecking

[X7007]

Ok i didn't get any crash for 3 chapters and it worked good. at chapter XII i think its on the ship where he got drunk.

301.42 + No supersampling (Sparse x2 On NvInspector)+ no Vsync in game -or- adaptive vsync on the nvidia control panel Off + all game to max + FXAA DX11 -No-MsAA.

On nvidia - Adaptive power - Texture Filtering- High Quality

I think it maybe the Comodo Antivirus + Defense which made it crashed.

you need to put on GAME MODE + Trust gsrld.dll + disable the Defense protection not the antivirus.

EDIT :: Almost at the end of the game XIII and no crashes at all for more than 10 hrs.

[The Sleeper]

Originally Posted by X7007

Ok i didn't get any crash for 3 chapters and it worked good. at chapter XII i think its on the ship where he got drunk.

301.42 + No supersampling (Sparse x2 On NvInspector)+ no Vsync in game -or- adaptive vsync on the nvidia control panel Off + all game to max + FXAA DX11 -No-MsAA.

On nvidia - Adaptive power - Texture Filtering- High Quality

I think it maybe the Comodo Antivirus + Defense which made it crashed.

you need to put on GAME MODE + Trust gsrld.dll + disable the Defense protection not the antivirus.

EDIT :: Almost at the end of the game XIII and no crashes at all for more than 10 hrs.

What AA bit do you use to force sparse in Nvinspector ?

[GrandMax]

Originally Posted by The Sleeper

What AA bit do you use to force sparse in Nvinspector ?

Bits are not supposed to be working with DX11. Moreover, you need 2xMSAA to push 2xSGSSAA.

My understanding for DX11 is that you leave the bits blank.

[Wanny]

MSAA doesn't seem to work at all. For me at least.

[sh1sh1n11]

yea I noticed that too. SSAO has darker shadows compared to HDAO. Enabling HDAO feels like going back to San Andreas shadows 😜

[The Sleeper]

Originally Posted by GrandMax

Bits are not supposed to be working with DX11. Moreover, you need 2xMSAA to push 2xSGSSAA.

My understanding for DX11 is that you leave the bits blank.

Ok ... Thanks for the info :0)

[The Sleeper]

Originally Posted by Wanny

MSAA doesn't seem to work at all. For me at least.

It does absolutely nothing !

Think we need a patch for it to work :0)

[Veteran]

MSAA works ok here,no problems at all it works when its applied on my machine.

[Darren Hodgson]

Originally Posted by Veteran

MSAA works ok here,no problems at all it works when its applied on my machine.

MSAA doesn't work on my GTX 680 SLI with the v301.42 drivers as seen in the screenshots in post #59 of this thread. Can you post a screenshot showing MSAA working please as it seems a lot of people are having problems getting it to work so if it is working with a specific driver then that might throw some light on things. Thanks. Even MSAA + FXAA looks poorer than just FXAA on its own.

[D4rKy21]

FXAA makes this game very blurry in my opinion and MSAA is broke in this game it works but the performance impact is realy huge, so i use neither of them then jaggie,s a bit and sharper image then blurry image with fxaa.

[Veteran]

Originally Posted by Darren Hodgson

MSAA doesn't work on my GTX 680 SLI with the v301.42 drivers as seen in the screenshots in post #59 of this thread. Can you post a screenshot showing MSAA working please as it seems a lot of people are having problems getting it to work so if it is working with a specific driver then that might throw some light on things. Thanks. Even MSAA + FXAA looks poorer than just FXAA on its own.

im not at my pc atm and i probably wont be at all today as im going to a party,anyhow im using the 301.52 dev driver and msaa definitely works for me,all other recent drivers for the 690 suck tbh in one way or another,ill post screen shots when i can but it wont be today edit i have actually forgot which driver im using now tbh,will post when i get back

[OutGears]

301.52 ?? Have you a download link ?

[Veteran]

i think the driver im using is 302.59,im not at my pc so i cannot check

[Boggy68]

Originally Posted by Lloyd_Braun

Im getting APPCRASH errors within minutes when playing multiplayer and randomly when playing singleplayer. I've been in contact with Rockstar support about it. Hoping someone here can help.

Here's the error im getting.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: MaxPayne3.exe
Application Version: 1.0.0.17
Application Timestamp: 4fc81bbe
Fault Module Name: MaxPayne3.exe
Fault Module Version: 1.0.0.17
Fault Module Timestamp: 4fc81bbe
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 002abc8d
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 1784
Additional Information 2: 17847f29da153acf2cd295dd0e1d83ab
Additional Information 3: 92c1
Additional Information 4: 92c14f5e2b05a49afbef334a36074658


And my specs.

Asus M4A78T-E
AMD Phenom2 955 be (stock speeds)
4gb ddr3
GTX 480 (301.42)
SB Recon 3d (latest drivers)

Take a look at this http://forums.steampowered.com/forum...9#post31105859

I **** you not it actually works. I wont bore you with the hell I have been through, but this crashing actually relates to your keyboard/mouse mapping. If you have your interact, or pick up gun mapped to the mouse, try it you have nothing to lose...

[GrandMax]

Nice article on performance and differences between DX9/10/11.

http://www.techspot.com/review/537-m...3-performance/

[Darren Hodgson]

Does MSAA + FXAA work on AMD cards? I'm currently awaiting a second reply from Rockstar's support over the apparently broken MSAA issue but I'm beginning to wonder if the issue is specific to my machine.

To elaborate, if I use 0xMSAA + FXAA=Very High then the anti-aliasing looks very good but if I use 4xMSAA + FXAA=Very High then it looks extremely poor (see the comparison images in post #59 of this thread). It seems that FXAA and MSAA do not work together and that enabling both causes MSAA to override/break FXAA completely. Logically, even if MSAA is broken, then FXAA + MSAA should look the same as FXAA + *no* MSAA but it doesn't on my system. FXAA + MSAA looks worst than FXAA on its own.

I just need some confirmation from others that this is the case on their system too. I'm using the current v301.42 WHQL drivers and have nothing forced through the driver game profile. The settings I'm using are 1920x1200, DX11, maxed quality (including Tessellation=Very High) and 16xAF.

[GrandMax]

Originally Posted by Darren Hodgson

Does MSAA + FXAA work on AMD cards? I'm currently awaiting a second reply from Rockstar's support over the apparently broken MSAA issue but I'm beginning to wonder if the issue is specific to my machine.

To elaborate, if I use 0xMSAA + FXAA=Very High then the anti-aliasing looks very good but if I use 4xMSAA + FXAA=Very High then it looks extremely poor (see the comparison images in post #59 of this thread). It seems that FXAA and MSAA do not work together and that enabling both causes MSAA to override/break FXAA completely. Logically, even if MSAA is broken, then FXAA + MSAA should look the same as FXAA + *no* MSAA but it doesn't on my system. FXAA + MSAA looks worst than FXAA on its own.

I just need some confirmation from others that this is the case on their system too. I'm using the current v301.42 WHQL drivers and have nothing forced through the driver game profile. The settings I'm using are 1920x1200, DX11, maxed quality (including Tessellation=Very High) and 16xAF.

I and others do confirm the issue with MSAA. I have a 680 with the same driver though.

[sapo_joe]

Originally Posted by Darren Hodgson

Does MSAA + FXAA work on AMD cards? I'm currently awaiting a second reply from Rockstar's support over the apparently broken MSAA issue but I'm beginning to wonder if the issue is specific to my machine.

To elaborate, if I use 0xMSAA + FXAA=Very High then the anti-aliasing looks very good but if I use 4xMSAA + FXAA=Very High then it looks extremely poor (see the comparison images in post #59 of this thread). It seems that FXAA and MSAA do not work together and that enabling both causes MSAA to override/break FXAA completely. Logically, even if MSAA is broken, then FXAA + MSAA should look the same as FXAA + *no* MSAA but it doesn't on my system. FXAA + MSAA looks worst than FXAA on its own.

I just need some confirmation from others that this is the case on their system too. I'm using the current v301.42 WHQL drivers and have nothing forced through the driver game profile. The settings I'm using are 1920x1200, DX11, maxed quality (including Tessellation=Very High) and 16xAF.

I read it somewhere that FXAA an MSAA aren't working together. I prefer MSAA, since objects farther from the camera look sharper with it. So, I disabled FXAA and am using only MSAA, the quality is very good. 1920x1080, everything maxed, 2x MSAA here (game wouldn't let me put 4X MSAA).

[(.)(.)]

FXAA Very High and Off

Using 301.42-quadro-tesla-win7-winvista-64bit-international-whql

Will update with FPS once I download Fraps:

Pics are 1920x1080 so not re-sized & 1mb

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FXAA Very High:
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FXAA OFF:
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Constant 60 Fps in this area^.

Driver forced FXAA looks the same as h/VH in-game FXAA

AA is starting to become a problem on this platform, it's suppose to be + not pain in in the a**, I don't mind the performance hit as along as the setting does something but when 8xmaa looks like 2xmss.

Pull out the bolded file below and that will skip the flashing Rockstar logo that says 'Still loading' in the bottom right corner when you hit enter.

C:\Program Files (x86)\xxxx\Max Payne 3 - PC\common\movies:mp3_payne_pill_rockstar_logo.bik

[Darren Hodgson]

Yesterday's v1.0.0.28 patch seems to have fixed the broken MSAA issue for me or at least the MSAA + FXAA conflict which resulted in 4xMSAA + FXAA=Very High looking noticeably more jagged than 0xMSAA + FXAA=Very High and inferior even to FXAA=Very High on its own.

As far as I can tell from testing one single player and one Arcade level it looks like FXAA + MSAA are working together or at least MSAA doesn't overide or disable FXAA any more. I have not test tested 4xMSAA on its ownthough. It may have been addressed as part of the 'white outline with MSAA enabled' fix.

I'd appreciate it though if others could test it just to prove that I'm not imagining it. Thanks.

[Alski]

This game crashes on me too it has the same problem as deus ex hr you have to increase the gpu voltage to stop the crashes. I put the voltage on my 560 ti 448 to 1.038v this works for me. Please remember do this at your own risk i'm not responsible if you end up with a expensive paperweight.

[applejack]

nvidia released max payne 3 tweak guide:
http://www.geforce.com/optimize/guid...tweak-guide/#1

pretty much sums it all, inc. SSAO vs HDAO, MSAA+FXAA combo uselessness, SGSSAA via nvinspector (+dx9 lod adjustment), smaa injector, commandlines, triple buffering w/ vsync and whatnot...
lol kudos for their awareness to enthusiasts discussions and needs. I mean, big brother is obviously listening. hopefully that counts for more than just tweak guides though

[rewt]

I saw the guide today too, but already finished the game with great performance. GG, Rockstar and Nvidia.

They say ambient occlusion was "unavailable" in DX9, but SSAO is implemented by default and works fine.

In my experience, the game doesn't suffer from framerate halving issues related to vsync, so the section regarding triple buffering could be omitted or ignored.

Input lag what? This game is leagues ahead of Skyrim for example in responsiveness. Anyway if you want to reduce about input lag, consult pre-rendered frames, not triple buffering.

DX9 titles generally only perform worse on Vista and later operating systems, so I don't believe the graph showing DX10 outperforming DX9 is entirely accurate.

Looks like I didn't miss much playing it in DX9. The comparison screenshots look almost exactly the same for all DirectX versions.

[Veteran]

Started playing this game maxed out,its pretty epic,i love the character and story,just like the old games but updated,great game!