Diablo 3 - Force AA?

kronns · **Diablo 3 - Force AA? -** 05-16-2012, 09:35 | posts: 9

Hi all from spain and excuse me for my bad english. Ingame D3 AA is terrible, textures seem to get blurred. someone has succeeded forcing AA in control panel?

Hoodwink · 05-16-2012, 11:50 | posts: 41

Try the 12.4a with 12.4 cap1

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=362726

http://downloads.guru3d.com/AMD-Cata...load-2909.html

Huge performance hit for such a slight effect but it is noticeable if you want a better IQ.

The ingame AA setting is horrible.

Nichtswisser · 05-16-2012, 15:32 | posts: 263

Do you mean apart from all the other issues D3 does not even offer proper AA?

shadow_craft · **Memory**: 16G-DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24-1T

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Do you mean apart from all the other issues D3 does not even offer proper AA?

sykozis · 05-16-2012, 23:35 | posts: 13,628 | Location: US East Coast

What "issues" are you referring to?

Espionage724 · 05-16-2012, 23:37 | posts: 663 | Location: Charleroi, PA

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What "issues" are you referring to?

Well, for one, Achievements have been broken for 24+ hours now, and Blizzard has been relatively silent about it the entire time (well, they said they'll post more info when it's available, but that isn't really "helpful")

Nichtswisser · 05-17-2012, 00:09 | posts: 263

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Originally Posted by sykozis

What "issues" are you referring to?

- Terrible draconian DRM
- Lag even in single player (each time you kill something the game calls the server and has to wait for a response)
- 2004 Graphics
- Server trouble
- dumbed down character development as far as one can still call it that

Pick one.

sykozis · 05-17-2012, 02:16 | posts: 13,628 | Location: US East Coast

Draconian DRM?? wow, they store game data remotely to keep idiots from stealing.....
Lag? Must be the server you connect to. I had no issue with lag at all
Server Trouble? It's a brand new game, using brand new servers. If you're ignorant enough to think things would be flawless, you need to look at every other game that's been released in the last 10 years that uses remote servers...
2004 Graphics? It's DX9 for wider compatibility. Set all the options to max and see how hot your graphics card gets.....

What's with the stupid obsession with graphics? Are you playing the game or just standing there staring at it?

Oh yeah, and Blizzard is a "TWIMTBP" Dev studio.....

kn00tcn · **Memory**: OCZ 2x2gb 5-4-4-15 840mhz

do the SMAA/FXAA injectors work?

shadow_craft · **Memory**: 16G-DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24-1T

Terrible draconian DRM
Completely server/cloud based gaming...
This is not 'draconian' LOL!
No one has the servers information, clients are 'dumb'

This exposes less data for hacks and crackers to mine away at looking for holes to exploit

Lag even in single player (each time you kill something the game calls the server and has to wait for a response)
There is no offline single player, every session is online connected to the server.

That being said, I haven't had any lag when I could play.

2004 Graphics
It's a blizzard title designed to run on low end PC's

Server trouble

10 million ppl would do that, give it a week

dumbed down character development as far as one can still call it that

They trimmed the fat, and its very convenient. ( I play games to have fun )

sykozis · 05-17-2012, 02:37 | posts: 13,628 | Location: US East Coast

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Originally Posted by shadow_craft

Lag even in single player (each time you kill something the game calls the server and has to wait for a response)
There is no offline single player, every session is online connected to the server.

That being said, I haven't had any lag when I could play.

2004 Graphics
It's a blizzard title designed to run on low end PC's

Server trouble

10 million ppl would do that, give it a week

dumbed down character development as far as one can still call it that

They trimmed the fat, and its very convenient. ( I play games to have fun )

I haven't had any lag either.

Diablo3 was among the most anticipated games ever released.....Blizzard even warned everyone that unforeseeable "issues" would arise....

I play games to have fun too.....wtf would you want to spend time researching **** for a game, when you can simply play and enjoy it?

kn00tcn · **Memory**: OCZ 2x2gb 5-4-4-15 840mhz

i know someone who keeps saying he's got lag, during beta & now after release, he's in UK

sykozis · 05-17-2012, 02:42 | posts: 13,628 | Location: US East Coast

BTW, for Diablo3.....the AA options are "enable" and "disable"....that's it.

Nichtswisser · 05-17-2012, 02:48 | posts: 263

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Originally Posted by sykozis

Draconian DRM?? wow, they store game data remotely to keep idiots from stealing.....
Lag? Must be the server you connect to. I had no issue with lag at all
Server Trouble? It's a brand new game, using brand new servers. If you're ignorant enough to think things would be flawless, you need to look at every other game that's been released in the last 10 years that uses remote servers...
2004 Graphics? It's DX9 for wider compatibility. Set all the options to max and see how hot your graphics card gets.....

What's with the stupid obsession with graphics? Are you playing the game or just standing there staring at it?

Oh yeah, and Blizzard is a "TWIMTBP" Dev studio.....

Please, the game is already pirated and the pirates play without all that draconian DRM ****. Only those who paid for the game are affected. I mean was there ever a DRM system which did not only punish those who bought the game? And graphics are 2004, that's when WoW came out and it shows. Graphics aren't everything, far from it, I just find it hard to find reasons to buy a shorter and dumbed down version of Diablo 2 with 2004 graphics and draconian DRM that excels at virtually nothing, at least nothing good. Not to mention the premium price that is 50% above what you have to pay for most other new games (60€ vs 40€).

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dumbed down character development as far as one can still call it that

They trimmed the fat, and its very convenient. ( I play games to have fun )

What fat? Diablo 2 was already extremely light with character development, now there is virtually nothing. One Barbar now is just like any other, no variation, no individualization, no replayability. What's next? Watching bots playing for you?

sykozis · 05-17-2012, 03:04 | posts: 13,628 | Location: US East Coast

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Please, the game is already pirated and the pirates play without all that draconian DRM ****. Only those who paid for the game are affected. I mean was there ever a DRM system which did not only punish those who bought the game? And graphics are 2004, that's when WoW came out and it shows. Graphics aren't everything, far from it, I just find it hard to find reasons to buy a shorter and dumbed down version of Diablo 2 with 2004 graphics and draconian DRM that excels at virtually nothing, at least nothing good. Not to mention the premium price that is 50% above what you have to pay for most other new games (60€ vs 40€).

WoW and Diablo3 use completely different graphics engines....so, pointless to relate the 2.

Diablo3 is no more expensive than BF3 is several months after it's release..... Hell, can't remember the last time I saw a non-Blizzard game launch for less than $60USD in the US....

So, since you claim the game has been pirated already, how did they obtain all the game data that is stored on Blizzard's servers? You can't just simply change the login data and play.....

Nichtswisser · 05-17-2012, 03:11 | posts: 263

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WoW and Diablo3 use completely different graphics engines....so, pointless to relate the 2.

Sometimes you can get pretty similar results by going different ways.

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Diablo3 is no more expensive than BF3 is several months after it's release..... Hell, can't remember the last time I saw a non-Blizzard game launch for less than $60USD in the US....

What do I care about how expensive something was to produce? What I care about is what value I get for my money, any mismanagement or other reason that increase prices are no reason why I should pay more when I do not get more value also.

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So, since you claim the game has been pirated already, how did they obtain all the game data that is stored on Blizzard's servers? You can't just simply change the login data and play.....

A simple google search told me the game is already pirated.

sykozis · 05-17-2012, 03:19 | posts: 13,628 | Location: US East Coast

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What do I care about how expensive something was to produce? What I care about is what value I get for my money, any mismanagement or other reason that increase prices are no reason why I should pay more when I do not get more value also.

The sale price is based on cost of production + profit based on volume. The more it costs to develop a game, the more the game is going to cost. BF3 has no more "value" than Diablo3 does....yet, 6 months later carries the same price tag. In the case of Diablo3, Blizzard is banking on sales volume to make up for the cost of development. The game was scrapped multiple times over the last 12 years. That costs a lot of money.

Nichtswisser · 05-17-2012, 03:34 | posts: 263

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Originally Posted by sykozis

The sale price is based on cost of production + profit based on volume. The more it costs to develop a game, the more the game is going to cost. BF3 has no more "value" than Diablo3 does....yet, 6 months later carries the same price tag. In the case of Diablo3, Blizzard is banking on sales volume to make up for the cost of development. The game was scrapped multiple times over the last 12 years. That costs a lot of money.

Yes, I know how economics work. Yet you can't expect people to pay more than something is worth compared to similar products just because you somehow produced less efficient than others. I mean fallowing what you just wrote, Duke Nuken Forever would probably still have a price tag of at least +100$. I mean that game was in development for, well, forever...

In what does Diablo 3 excel other games apart from the price tag? DRM?

sykozis · 05-17-2012, 03:51 | posts: 13,628 | Location: US East Coast

If you have a problem with the game, don't play it. Very simple. But repeatedly reminding us of your dislike for DRM won't make any difference. At the end of the day, nobody cares how YOU feel about DRM....

Thalyn · 05-17-2012, 05:57 | posts: 72

Getting this back to the topic at hand... the in-game AA setting appears to be FXAA. What makes that particularly interesting is that MLAA (as applied from the CCC) doesn't have any effect in-game - not even making the text unreadable.

Thus far I've been unable to get any forward AA to work, so best I can figure it's using deferred rendering. This means post AA is the only option.

Sephious · 05-17-2012, 06:34 | posts: 5

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Originally Posted by Thalyn

Getting this back to the topic at hand... the in-game AA setting appears to be FXAA. What makes that particularly interesting is that MLAA (as applied from the CCC) doesn't have any effect in-game - not even making the text unreadable.

Thus far I've been unable to get any forward AA to work, so best I can figure it's using deferred rendering. This means post AA is the only option.

As far as I know, people have been able to enable AA on NVIDIA cards, but they could be mistaken.

Nichtswisser · 05-17-2012, 07:22 | posts: 263

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Originally Posted by sykozis

If you have a problem with the game, don't play it. Very simple. But repeatedly reminding us of your dislike for DRM won't make any difference. At the end of the day, nobody cares how YOU feel about DRM....

You started it, you asked me what "issues" I was referring to. Than you get offended because you do not like my answers. And now it appears you also seem to know what others care about.

@back to topic

ATI/AMD always had issues with forcing things like AA or Vsinc since I can remember, dunno why they haven't fixed that a long time ago.

skoolz · 05-17-2012, 07:30 | posts: 64 | Location: PA

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Originally Posted by Nichtswisser

Please, the game is already pirated and the pirates play without all that draconian DRM ****. Only those who paid for the game are affected. I mean was there ever a DRM system which did not only punish those who bought the game? And graphics are 2004, that's when WoW came out and it shows. Graphics aren't everything, far from it, I just find it hard to find reasons to buy a shorter and dumbed down version of Diablo 2 with 2004 graphics and draconian DRM that excels at virtually nothing, at least nothing good. Not to mention the premium price that is 50% above what you have to pay for most other new games (60€ vs 40€).

What fat? Diablo 2 was already extremely light with character development, now there is virtually nothing. One Barbar now is just like any other, no variation, no individualization, no replayability. What's next? Watching bots playing for you?

Obviously you have not played the game. The graphics are even better than StarCraft II's, and are above and beyond their vanilla WoW, 2004 graphics. And how can you sit there and act like you know about the character development, replayability, variation, etc when you have admittedly not purchased the game and, by your hatred for it, wouldn't have played past the beta limits.

Nichtswisser · 05-17-2012, 07:46 | posts: 263

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Obviously you have not played the game. The graphics are even better than StarCraft II's, and are above and beyond their vanilla WoW, 2004 graphics. And how can you sit there and act like you know about the character development, replayability, variation, etc when you have admittedly not purchased the game and, by your hatred for it, wouldn't have played past the beta limits.

I played the beta a little and have a friend who bought it, and after almost 2 days being unable to play the game due to server capacity issues, he had not much good to say about the final product. And since there virtually is no character development, or at least no way to influence it, how could it get better past the beta limit? From nothing comes nothing. It's a dumbed down D2, and many already made fun of that game because of it's simplicity years back. loot and Character development is what makes those kind of games fun, yet D3 basically comes without the later.

adams222 · 05-17-2012, 14:21 | posts: 16

I actually agree that the graphics are a huge letdown. Just my opinion though.