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Darren Hodgson
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Default 05-10-2012, 15:29 | posts: 9,699 | Location: England

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Yeah, even see there are factory overclocked 4GB 670’s going for less than a stock 2GB 680.

Anyone think these also make the GTX690 redundant before it’s even had time to go on sale properly, you can get two stock cards for over £200 less, or two OC 4GB cards for less than a stock 2gb per GPU GTX690.
Yeah, I do. I mean if I was considering SLI then I could save £250-£300 buying two GTX 670s over one GTX 690 if I wasn't too fussed about build quality (there's no denying the GTX 690 is one sexy-looking card with all that metal) and a small loss of performance.

I really do think that NVIDIA have made a bit of a gaff here given the current pricing. The GTX 680 cost £420 at launch and then the GTX 690 launched at £850-890 (over twice the cost of a single GTX 680, granted you're paying for the build quality too). Then they launched the GTX 670 at £300+ which seems to match the GTX 680 to within a few frames per second but makes the higher spec card look a bit overpriced IMO.

Whether those extra frames are worth the extra £120+ is up to the person buying it but if I was buying a Kepler card now I'd go for a GTX 670 rather than a GTX 680. There seems to less performance difference between the GTX 670 and 680 than there was between the GTX 570 and GTX 580.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 15:30 | posts: 6,348 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship

Depends on the scenario really, I mean with me I can't get SLI 670's without either taking out my soundcard or running them at 8x speed. I decided to go with the 690. It is going to eat sales of their higher end cards though. I'm surprised they didn't price it a little higher.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 15:31 | posts: 9,699 | Location: England

P.S. I wonder if the £250 GTX 660 will make the GTX 670 redundant when it comes out and matches the performance to within 5 fps...
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 15:35 | posts: 9,699 | Location: England

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Depends on the scenario really, I mean with me I can't get SLI 670's without either taking out my soundcard or running them at 8x speed. I decided to go with the 690. It is going to eat sales of their higher end cards though. I'm surprised they didn't price it a little higher.
I think they priced the GTX 670 fine at £300 here in the UK, it's just that the Kepler GPU boost feature works just a little too well and ends up making the GTX 680 look like the high-end model and more like a higher clocked GTX 670. Obviously, no-one wants less performance for their money but I expected that the GTX 670 would also have its memory clocked lower too to widen the performance gap. Surprisingly, that didn't happen and the GTX 670 has the exact same memory bandwidth as a stock GTX 680. It is selling for $50 more than the GTX 570 did though.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 15:47 | posts: 437 | Location: UK

7970/7950 prices are about to bomb...
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 15:54 | posts: 9,699 | Location: England

Wow, I just looked on Scan and the EVGA GTX 670 cards they had listed for £300 and £312 earlier on have shot up to £337 and £353 respectively!

I also saw a 4 GB GTX 670 listed for £400 on (I think it was) EBuyer. Makes me almost wish I'd waited now as I paid £20 more for a card with half the memory that is only a few frames per second faster. That's almost, mind.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 15:57 | posts: 370 | Location: N/A

Woah solid card Nice review too. Tempted to grab 670 SLI now.. >_<

Damm you Hilbert!

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Default 05-10-2012, 15:58 | posts: 2,547 | Location: The Netherlands

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I'm truly pissed off. You can get a 670 for about £300 on ebuyer. I paid £460 for my 680!!!! A HUNDRED AND SIXTY POUNDS FOR 5FPS MORE. Ridiculous. I'm returning the card.
I playing the patience game...still Will pay off in the end.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 16:00 | posts: 1,225 | Location: Bay City, MI

Nice card, but I am very satisfied with my boosted 680 clocks. Comparing an overclocked 670 to a standard 680 isn't really fair. O/C to O/C is what I look at. Having the best will always cost you a premium, and most 680 owners don't regret their purchase.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 16:02 | posts: 939 | Location: Belgium

I have to say, this is one of the most confusing generations ever. What Nvidia did with the Kepler architecture is amazing. This is the first time I've seen such power efficient cards coming from them and the introduction of gpu boost and adaptive vsync is brilliant IMO.

On the other hand, we have 2 gpu's (flagship and price/performance card) who are most of the time less than 10 fps from each other. This doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, who's going to buy their GTX680's now? People who just want the best of the best? You have to be pretty stupid now to buy a GTX680 when you can get a CHEAPER GTX670, oc it and have GTX680 performance for €100 (or more) less.

Am I pissed of? Yes and no! Yes because I bought a card than can get beaten by his "little brother" at a smaller price and no because I had a great (almost) 2 months which makes the €100 sorta worth it. It does suck for people who bought the GTX680 last week or so.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 16:11 | posts: 13,432 | Location: Glasgow

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Wow, I just looked on Scan and the EVGA GTX 670 cards they had listed for £300 and £312 earlier on have shot up to £337 and £353 respectively!

I also saw a 4 GB GTX 670 listed for £400 on (I think it was) EBuyer. Makes me almost wish I'd waited now as I paid £20 more for a card with half the memory that is only a few frames per second faster. That's almost, mind.
Yeah, i saw the 4GB cards as well, considering the asking price of a GTX690 is £900 now, and you could get 2x670 4GB for £800, it would be hard to choose the 690, especially when the 2 670's are much more future proof.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 16:15 | posts: 1,948 | Location: Ohio

Not bad for $400, hopefully we see some in the $350 range after a month, or even less with Rebates.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 16:34 | posts: 7,398 | Location: United kingdom

Great performing card for an underdog i must say.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 17:00 | posts: 9,699 | Location: England

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Yeah, i saw the 4GB cards as well, considering the asking price of a GTX690 is £900 now, and you could get 2x670 4GB for £800, it would be hard to choose the 690, especially when the 2 670's are much more future proof.
Exactly.

I mean I'm sure driver performance will improve but those improvements will apply to the GTX 670 and 680 equally so there'll still be the same (small) performance gap between them!!!

So, yeah, why buy a 2x2 GB GTX 690 when you can pick up 2x4 GB GTX 670s and SLI them for less. If you're wanting SLI for higher resolutions or multi-monitor gaming then that memory might prove more useful than a few extra frames per second.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 17:03 | posts: 2,151 | Location: Manchester, UK

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On the other hand, we have 2 gpu's (flagship and price/performance card) who are most of the time less than 10 fps from each other. This doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, who's going to buy their GTX680's now? People who just want the best of the best? You have to be pretty stupid now to buy a GTX680 when you can get a CHEAPER GTX670, oc it and have GTX680 performance for €100 (or more) less.
I thought that about the people who went from a GTX480 to a GTX580 (or worse GTX480 to GTX570), my card with its clocks is the same speed as a GTX580 and it cost me £185 new a year ago (£200 cheaper than a 580 at the time) and has no issues with anything i throw at it (but i do understand wanting the best if you have the moneys - i'm a cheap PC gamer ).

I'm still holding out, my GTX480 is lasting well and i can't wait to pick up a GTX670 for around £250 soon (it'll happen) or a sub £200 GTX580 (i can forsee a Scan deal of the day already).

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Default 05-10-2012, 17:08 | posts: 2,675

TPU's both Asus and Zotac AMP! hit 1890MHz RAM

OC-ed they end up 12% faster than ref. 680

11% faster for an OC-ed Hilbert's ref. 670 vs 680

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Default 05-10-2012, 17:25 | posts: 939 | Location: Belgium

All GTX680 owners should sent an e-mail to nvidia asking our 100 bucks back
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 17:29 | posts: 14,712 | Location: New Jersey, USA

7970 under $399?
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 17:31 | posts: 246 | Location: Earth

I managed to get a OC MSI 670 from Dabs.

Um, the 670 has kinda made the 680 and 690 a bit pointless. Perhaps Nvidia rolled out the 680 as a short term thing to grab the performance headlines from AMD and the 670 was planned to be the true mass market item. I dunno, it just seems weird to me to make a card with most of the performance of the top-end for much less money. :/

If I was a 680 owner I would feel a bit cheated right about now tbh.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 17:41 | posts: 6,348 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship

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Um, the 670 has kinda made the 680 and 690 a bit pointless. Perhaps Nvidia rolled out the 680 as a short term thing to grab the performance headlines from AMD and the 670 was planned to be the true mass market item.
It has everything to do with Yields. The GK104 was designed a certain way, some of them didn't come out of production that way, they get binned at a lower class.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 17:41 | posts: 984 | Location: Southampton, UK

Tempted to sell and get custom 670 SLI tbh, shouldn't lose anything on the 680 seeing how hard to come by they are, got a 3 year transferable warranty too.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 17:47 | posts: 246 | Location: Earth

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It has everything to do with Yields. The GK104 was designed a certain way, some of them didn't come out of production that way, they get binned at a lower class.

So the same as every video card, then. The end result is the same. Nvidia has made a very good performing card at an acceptable price that put its previous offering in the shade. AMD must be annoyed at this point and will have to make further reductions to its whole range of 78xx/79xx cards.
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 17:55 | posts: 10,873 | Location: new jersey

Nv is going to make a killing selling these 6xx cards.
no wonder they dont have mid range cards out...this was thier mid range.
Anyways great review(s) boss
To those that got 680's HA HA j/k
   
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Default 05-10-2012, 18:14 | posts: 2,547 | Location: The Netherlands

Check out these boxes......omg : /

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No wonder no other shops here in Holland got Cards in stock, Overclockers UK got them all.

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Default 05-10-2012, 18:19 | posts: 246 | Location: Earth

The MSI one I snagged is at the front. Lots and lots of boxes. Possibly the worlds supply of 670's for the coming year.
   
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