Amazing deals on IPS 27 inch monitors! *120Hz possible*

[MM10X]

Originally Posted by Hilbert Hagedoorn

One rule applies, you get what you pay for. I am not expecting a brilliant monitor for the 329 USD I spent. Obvously I will not receive the 120MHz B revision as they are not in production (except for the batches at 120hz.net but these cost 460 USD).

I'm looking for a cheap big monitor for one of the test rigs. However for 329 USD a 27" 2560x1440 screen that has an LG color precise S-IPS screen .. that I am curious about as these are expensive screens. Even if the screen has minor flaws it's a steal for an S-IPS screen.

But again, you get what you pay for. I mean i bought my IPS dell U2711 for like 800 USD a year ago.

However if you read up on comments, it seems that the Yamakasi monitors are pretty darn good exept that the mount is a little plasticy, and why shouln't they be good as a screen -- they all have the new model LG screens S-IPS panels.

I'd say wait a little until the now already 3 peeps in this thread have received their monitor and see how good of a deal this really is / or not.

This is why you run this site.


I think I may be getting one of these to upgrade from my 22".

They look really nice, but I think im gonna want a 120hz model.
league of legends at 120FPS true sounds amazing.

[Veteran]

Originally Posted by Hilbert Hagedoorn

You need a B revision, which isn't available anymore. 120hz.net (look at their frontpage) however arranged a new batch of 100 pieces, they sell it yet it's significantly more expensive though at 459 USD. So you need to make a judgement call if that is worth the extra cash.

Yeah i think its worth it,i mean imagine a Dell 27inch IPS at 120hz....£700-£800 i reckon,must look into it,enjoying my card atm though

[hallryu]

Looks like a great monitor for the price even if it's not capable of 120Hz.

[rflair]

Got mine also. Have to unbox it still.

Color calibration/profiles for Windows here, http://scribsfjr.com/Site/Data/catleap-profiles.zip .

There are also some things some people may want to look at in this thread, http://www.overclock.net/t/1225919/y...#post_16652356 , such as setting 10-bit color gamut on AMD cards.

Hooked it up, its GORGEOUS, no dead pixels. The smile on my face is ear to ear.

Have to calibrate it but stock out of the box it kills my old DELL 2405, PVA Panel which I thought had an excellent picture but looking at this one its just WOW. The Dell also had input lag which kind of sucked for online gaming, this one is great.

Mine is a 2E model.

[trapper_87]

Originally Posted by rflair

Mine is a 2E model.

I just checked mine for the hell of it, I got a 2E too.

[Neo Cyrus]

Can anyone explain why the revision B is capable of being overclocked while the others aren't?

I bought a Dell U2312HM not too long ago, too bad. I hate the grainy look. Also too bad my university is sucking every penny out of me or I would order one of these anyway despite relatively recently getting a new monitor.

[k3vst3r]

Originally Posted by Neo Cyrus

Can anyone explain why the revision B is capable of being overclocked while the others aren't?

I bought a Dell U2312HM not too long ago, too bad. I hate the grainy look. Also too bad my university is sucking every penny out of me or I would order one of these anyway despite relatively recently getting a new monitor.

B version uses modified PCB controller which allows 120HZ where as bog standard PCB controller doesn't

[Neo Cyrus]

Originally Posted by k3vst3r

B version uses modified PCB controller which allows 120HZ where as bog standard PCB controller doesn't

So why are there virtually no 120Hz IPS panels out there if a different PCB is all it needs? And why would they change it to one which only supports 60Hz if they have no 120Hz model for sale anyway...

[rflair]

Originally Posted by Neo Cyrus

So why are there virtually no 120Hz IPS panels out there if a different PCB is all it needs? And why would they change it to one which only supports 60Hz if they have no 120Hz model for sale anyway...

Technically its possible at 1080 or 1200 resolution, at 1440 or 1600 video cards technically don't support 120Hz as a hardware limitation. The people running them are running their cards out of spec at the super high resolutions.

[Neo Cyrus]

So it's because of video cards eternally having a 400MHz RAMDAC then? I guess I have some reading to do.

[DF-1]

i read about these 4 months ago at [h] (they've got a 100+ page thread going on). there are a LOT of different versions all using the same S-IPS LG panel. Some have lots of inputs but more latency. some come with dead pixels. some have bad stands, but it still seems like a really good deal.

[Mufflore]

Originally Posted by Neo Cyrus

So it's because of video cards eternally having a 400MHz RAMDAC then? I guess I have some reading to do.

Thats for analogue VGA conversion.

[Neo Cyrus]

I know what it stands for, still I was under the impression the clock rate of that is what limited the resolution and refresh rate. I guess I should be asking what part of the video card is it then which is limited?

[kanej2007]

Interesting, it will only be a matter of time for other manufacturers to bring out 120hz monitors/tv's of 27'' or larger.

[Mufflore]

Originally Posted by Neo Cyrus

I know what it stands for, still I was under the impression the clock rate of that is what limited the resolution and refresh rate. I guess I should be asking what part of the video card is it then which is limited?

Single link DVI/HDMI has a max res of around 1200p at 60Hz 32bit.
So its possible to do around 1200p 120Hz 32bit with Dual Link DVI while remaining within spec.

[BaldManBDC]

Been reading about these over the weekend, I have signed up at 120hz.net and will get on the 2B train as soon as I can.

Rolling a 7970 atm so 85hz is max I will be able to run, but even that sounds worth the money.

Might have to get on the GTX 780 train when they arrive id AMD dont sort out their driver limitations.

Will post back when I finally get my hands on one of these beasts!

[Darren Hodgson]

Originally Posted by Mufflore

Single link DVI/HDMI has a max res of around 1200p at 60Hz 32bit.
So its possible to do around 1200p 120Hz 32bit with Dual Link DVI while remaining within spec.

I never knew that. I always thought HDMI had more bandwidth than DVI, seeing as it is a newer digital display input. So does that mean you have to use two DVI leads with 2560x1440 and 2560x1600 displays then?

[alanm]

1 DVI will cover 2560x1440 and 2560x1600 at 60hz. So will DP. Just not HDMI at this point in time.

[Mufflore]

Originally Posted by Darren Hodgson

I never knew that. I always thought HDMI had more bandwidth than DVI, seeing as it is a newer digital display input. So does that mean you have to use two DVI leads with 2560x1440 and 2560x1600 displays then?

You need Dual Link DVI - 2x DVI on one connector, one Dual Link DVI cable.

HDMI has the bandwidth to do much more but it is deliberately restricted.
For example, the spec states it can do 1080p 48bit 60Hz.
Given that 32bit colour doesnt carry any more colour data for entertainment/gaming purposes than 24bit colour, it effectively has the bandwidth to pass 1080p 24bit 120Hz, or go higher res instead of higher refresh, however you want to use the bandwidth.
The modes exposed to us dont reflect what it can do.

[alanm]

Virtually all modern GPUs and bandwidth heavy monitors have DVI-DL (or DP), you just need to make sure the cable is DVI-DL.

[s4_squalo]

Has anyone purchased/read any info on this model: FIRST FSM-270HVF

Same 2560x1440 27", but seems to be the only model with hdmi in and optical out (I want to be able to plug my console in).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-FIRST-FS...ht_7455wt_1163


Edit: Just realised my console has optical out (no need for optical out of monitor then), ill have a read into the Yamakasi Catleap Q270 27" LED instead

[MAD-OGRE]

I am still debating on getting one, any negatives other than the OSD?

[Azarobi]

and whats wrong with the OSD ? i have gone through the thread but seemed to have missed if someone made any comments about it. and am too lazy to go through it again .

[MAD-OGRE]

Originally Posted by Azarobi

and whats wrong with the OSD ? i have gone through the thread but seemed to have missed if someone made any comments about it. and am too lazy to go through it again .

This

Originally Posted by Hilbert Hagedoorn

Okay this seems like an incredible deal. S-IPS, 27", high res, low input lag, no dead pixels, glossy (if that's your thing), etc.

One real downside, the cheapest model (that i bought) doesn't have an OSD menu. So you'll be tweaking through the display driver control panel. The Multi model does seem to have that option though.

Preliminary conclusion, though not 'perfect' and OSD aside .. it's good. Definitely worth $329 / 250 EUR. If the color gamut can be adjust a little more to 99.99% color precise, this screen could very well replace my Dell U2711.

But if you seek perfection.. it can be found at 2, 3 even 4x the pricing of this monitor. Yup not bad.

Ehm Standby mode consumes 2 Watt. Darkish screen 60 Watts and lots of whites in the screen 66 Watts.

[Hilbert Hagedoorn]

Originally Posted by MAD-OGRE

I am still debating on getting one, any negatives other than the OSD?

No, the footrest and OSD are the only negatives. In fact I swapped out my Dell 27" and am using the Yamakasi ... it offers better image quality.