Are you going ivy? why or why not?

[---TK---]

^^more interested in load

[Enmity]

GbgbSome awesome replies so far guys, thanks thus far.

Wilson my man! Sup?

While right now all i technically need is a quad, im thinking more and more about the future because for too long ive been stuck with a system with no upgradability (stuck on ddr2, cant upgrade my cpu etc) so the x79 route is becoming rather enticing right now...more powerful cpus will be cpmpatible down the line so i could move to a better cpu with more cores and threads in a year or so without a problem...with z77 we wont see more than a quadcore with ht. So im looking for good deals in nz for a 3820 with 16gb ram and prob a p9x79...oh actually, is there a x79 board that has the 8xdimms and a regular pci slot which can be used while having two gfx cards?

[Anarion]

Originally Posted by ---TK---

^^more interested in load

Mid 40's in full load when encoding video with latest x264 encoder.

[Enmity]

Yikes those are nice temps, tried stress testing with p95 or anything? You might have a golden chip there like hilberts which seems to clock much higher than the average 3770k due to significantly less heat.

[cowie]

Originally Posted by BlackZero

No, I can run my cpu at 5GHz+ and still have a silent and cool system, and this is with an average chip. Ivy bridge simply cant match that so absolutely no point in switching.

I agree for the most part.

Originally Posted by ---TK---

temps gino?

I only have a 3570k so it may be cooler then say a chip with ht on.
Its runs so so for temps
I only used the most cpu damanding bench i will run on it,not ibt or occt.
Yup only 06 cpu tests lol\,supermega mega cooler that i use for sb and a 250cfm fan
Heres five cpu tests looped and 2 full runs max i could do with voltage and stay under 80c



started getting alittle hot for me 85c is the most i'd like to see on my bench air rigs
with around 1.41sh real 4.9 + was ok at that voltage,the cpu test x3 looped then full run

01 03 05 am3 were np at 5.0+ with same voltage and lower temps too boot
think i can wait a day or so till its colder to push it more in the volts department.
it might not see air again till i get a bios for my p67 ud7 that will work on k chips.

[fr33k]

going from a 1090t to this is like a breath of fresh air. I am very happy with my purchase. I'm on a stock cooler right now and i see around 40c temps at stock settings.

[deltatux]

Looks like the issue about the temperature might have been with the reviewer CPUs? Looks like retail CPUs aren't having much problems overclocking...

P.S: Next time please shrink your screenshots, not everyone has giant screens, it alters the forum zoom sizes especially on tablets.

deltatux

[Anarion]

Just started to do OC testing. So far so good, min 50's when encoding with x264 encoder at 4.3GHz. Going to try 3DMark11 next before Prime. Voltages are 1.152v under full load. I would be a bit surprised if this is prime stable but we'll see.

In any case, this is cooler than my old 2600K.

EDIT:
Prime stress testing in progress... Extremely happy with the temperature so far. Maximum temp in 3DMark11 was 49c XD, Prime looking good so far.

[GhostXL]

I went from a 2600K to my 3770K.

Those saying it's not worth it are wrong.

I have LOWER temps at 4.4ghz compared to my 2600K at 4.4ghz. I'd idle at 38C on my sandy bridge with a CM V6 cooler. Now I idle 28-32C.

Load temps went down about 5C on average.

All this excess heat must be with the stock cooler. I could understand why it'd run a bit warmer then without a good 3rd party cooler.

Also another big point in me getting this chip is, less power 22nm, and pci-e 3.0 support.

Now both of my card run in 3.0 x8, and I've noticed more consistent FPS in my games even running Crossfire. I'm not saying I've gained like 100 FPS or anything, it's a smoother FPS, I don't dip down as low anymore in some games like BF3.

[Anarion]

Originally Posted by GhostXL

I went from a 2600K to my 3770K.

Those saying it's not worth it are wrong.

I have LOWER temps at 4.4ghz compared to my 2600K at 4.4ghz. I'd idle at 38C on my sandy bridge with a CM V6 cooler. Now I idle 28-32C.

Load temps went down about 5C on average.

All this excess heat must be with the stock cooler. I could understand why it'd run a bit warmer then without a good 3rd party cooler.

Also another big point in me getting this chip is, less power 22nm, and pci-e 3.0 support.

Now both of my card run in 3.0 x8, and I've noticed more consistent FPS in my games even running Crossfire. I'm not saying I've gained like 100 FPS or anything, it's a smoother FPS, I don't dip down as low anymore in some games like BF3.

Same thing here (the temperature advantage is even bigger in my case, though). Runs cooler at 4.3 GHz than my 2600K.

Anyways, this is what I will be using (1h Prime stable, if it fails in real life I give more voltage):

[TechFreaK]

I went from a 2600K to my 3770K.

Those saying it's not worth it are wrong.

I have LOWER temps at 4.4ghz compared to my 2600K at 4.4ghz. I'd idle at 38C on my sandy bridge with a CM V6 cooler. Now I idle 28-32C.

Hi, tnx for great info! But this is not entirely true.

Things change a lot at 4.6ghz+ (1.25v+). Did you see Cowie's temps at 4.89ghz?

[Anarion]

Originally Posted by TechFreaK

Hi, tnx for great info! But this is not entirely true.

Things change a lot at 4.6ghz+ (1.25v+). Did you see Cowie's temps at 4.89ghz?

But then again IB is faster clock to clock. All that I care, is that it runs cooelr and uses less power than SB with reasonable overclock.

[kens30]

I was waiting for Ivy Bridge a couple of months to upgrade from a s775 Q9505 and when the first reviews came in i was disappointed by the high temps when overclocking and the minimal performance gain.The main things i was interested in was overclocking and pci-e 3.0 so i ordered 2700K which has been tried and tested instead of getting a 3770K and regretting it.

[TechFreaK]

Originally Posted by Anarion

But then again IB is faster clock to clock. All that I care, is that it runs cooelr and uses less power than SB with reasonable overclock.
...

That's true and its faster in all games,
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/287?vs=551

Don't get me wrong I didnt say its bad, but it can be after 4.6ghz. And if OC'ing is someones main goal then better stay away from Ivy ^^

[GhostXL]

Originally Posted by TechFreaK

Hi, tnx for great info! But this is not entirely true.

Things change a lot at 4.6ghz+ (1.25v+). Did you see Cowie's temps at 4.89ghz?

Oh of course temps go up at those speeds. That's why I use what I consider best temp/performance area of 4.4ghz.

Temps are great, performance is great. Anything more IMHO is only good for benchmarking.

I used 4.4ghz on my SB and since using 4.4ghz on my IB, I can safely say the IB is faster all around with lower temps.

[BlackZero]

Originally Posted by cowie

I agree for the most part.

It's probably worth it once you add extreme cooling and have the higher unlocked multi.

Originally Posted by GhostXL

I used 4.4ghz on my SB and since using 4.4ghz on my IB, I can safely say the IB is faster all around with lower temps.

We already knew it ran great at 4.4Ghz, no one has said it doesn't run well at 4.4Ghz and we all know it's 5% faster on average clock for clock, what 'everyone' is actually saying is that it's not worth it if you are applying a respectable overclock of 4.6GHz+ and want temps to stay reasonable. The word 'threshold' has been used to describe the way the chip suddenly gets too hot after around 1.3-1.35v when stress testing.

This can be seen from Cowie's results where the chip is hitting mid 80's at 1.4v in 3dmark06 with top end air-cooling, if running prime95 etc. you can expect temps to be higher, likely well over 90c at the very least and not as practical for daily use.

It should also be noted that not only are the temps already very high but due to the 'threshold' that many reviewers have mentioned, stressing the chip in prime95 would likely bring on this 'threshold' much earlier than something like 3dmark06, so while the heating effects for 3dmark06 are linear so far and still below 90c, in prime95 the same chip likely would have an exponential increase in heat due to hitting the threshold at a much lower clock rate.

Further note that the chip doesn't have HT so that would probably cause a further reduction in relative clock rates for practical usage, nothing higher than 4.4-4.6 on top end air, unless you get lucky. According to THG Ivy Bridge runs on average 20c hotter than Sandy Bridge once overclocked, that really says it all and I should mention that as temps go up so does power usage which entirely negates any advantages at all.

Why don't one of the 3370k users with air-cooling post a quick prime95 run with temps showing at 4.6Ghz so everyone get's a better idea of what to expect.

[chispy]

I will patiently wait for Haswell , so no upgrade for me on the CPU department or GPU department untl then.

As for the hot temperatures of IB this is why ( As said earlier on this tread be fellow gurus ): So why is Ivy Bridge hot?

Intel is using TIM paste between the Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS) and the CPU die on Ivy Bridge chips, instead of fluxless solder.

Read On all the information about it here: http://hwbot.org/newsflash/1693_ivy_...in_hot_in_here

[Scerate]

will going to IB soon too, got my 920 2-3years now don't remember exactly, but i think it's worth the upgrade even if my processor is somewhat powerful even now, in video encoding i will get quite a boost + SATA3 + new Samsung SSD should be then awesome as well.

[slickric21]

Just ordered a 3570k today on impulse really, saw a good deal and grabbed it.

While there is all the debating and negative thoughts on Ivy re temps, Sandybridge is still holding good value for reselling, so with a bit of luck the 'upgrade/sidegrade' will cost me around £40 which is nothing really.

Aiming to hit ~4.4-4.5ghz with it.

Interested in less power consumption, the improved iGPU (may be useful if the Virtu MVP takes off) and PCIE 3.0.

Gotta wait till Tues now for delivery due to National Holiday on Monday

[---TK---]

IB looks ok for a minor oc 4.4ghz, going high will use more power and generate an awful amount of heat as proven by cowie (cowie was also running a non HT i5 cpu). HT he would of been around the 100c mark. for me running 4.7-4.8 for 14months its definitley not worth the 5% or so clock for clock advantage and the less overclockability. I have a very average chip and can run 4.8ht 24/7 on a megahalems rev b with 2 scythe 1900 rpm fans. pass this time around. maybe the next revision or I will wait till haswell and delegate this rig to back up status. if they dont fix the heat issue I will move right to haswell. nice chip, but not for me.

[Anarion]

There isn't any point in upgrading from SB to IB unless you absolutely need PCI-E 3.0. I had to buy new stuff due to certain arrangements so IB was pretty obvious choice for me.

[sykozis]

Originally Posted by slickric21

Just ordered a 3570k today on impulse really, saw a good deal and grabbed it.

While there is all the debating and negative thoughts on Ivy re temps, Sandybridge is still holding good value for reselling, so with a bit of luck the 'upgrade/sidegrade' will cost me around £40 which is nothing really.

Aiming to hit ~4.4-4.5ghz with it.

Interested in less power consumption, the improved iGPU (may be useful if the Virtu MVP takes off) and PCIE 3.0.

Gotta wait till Tues now for delivery due to National Holiday on Monday

Virtu MVP has it's uses, but I wouldn't expect it to "take-off".... It's a niche feature.... If you're into benchmarking with 3DMark....you don't even want it's drivers installed as Futuremark still can't properly detect the Virtu drivers and feature states so it invalidates benchmark results.

[Odellot]

Hi Guru's, What's the equivalent clock for Ivy if my SB is 5.0ghz?

[---TK---]

Originally Posted by TechFreaK

That's true and its faster in all games,
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/287?vs=551

Don't get me wrong I didnt say its bad, but it can be after 4.6ghz. And if OC'ing is someones main goal then better stay away from Ivy ^^

that bench is skewed 100 mhz in favor of IB. do you have a bench at the same clocks?
edit heres a 2700k vs 3770k both at stock 3.5ghz
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...k,3181-24.html

on this last link cycle though next page to see gaming benches
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...k,3181-20.html

[---TK---]

Originally Posted by Odellot

Hi Guru's, What's the equivalent clock for Ivy if my SB is 5.0ghz?

a toasty 4.8ish maybe?