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Overclocking the Intel Core2 Duo E6850 -
05-02-2012, 03:27
| posts: 254 | Location: California
Hey guys I want to overclock my E6850, but my bios is HP and it will not allow me to change the cpu frequency or the FSB. I have tried a couple of applications, but I don't know what my PLL is. When I use clockgen it stays at the current frequency, 3000Mhz when I change the Core clock.
Please help. Thanks
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Master Guru
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05-02-2012, 04:40
| posts: 663 | Location: Orange County, CA
I really don't think you're going to have any luck with a locked down HP motherboard to be honest.
C2D were always overclocked by raising the FSB, but I don't know if I'd trust any program in windows to adjust that. Plus, I'm guessing you are using stock cooling?
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Master Guru
Videocard: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6950
Processor: i5 2500K
Mainboard: Asrock Z77 PRO 4
Memory: Corsair 2x4GB 2 channels
Soundcard: HDTV speakers Realtek
PSU: OCZ 600W StealthXStream
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05-02-2012, 05:01
| posts: 254 | Location: California
Quote:
Originally Posted by automaticman
I really don't think you're going to have any luck with a locked down HP motherboard to be honest.
C2D were always overclocked by raising the FSB, but I don't know if I'd trust any program in windows to adjust that. Plus, I'm guessing you are using stock cooling?
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Yes, stock cooling. The reason I wanted to overclock it was because of a performance boost, but I overclocked my GT 440 GDDR5 1GB to 1000Mhz Core and 2000Mhz memory. That should give a pretty good boost. You're right, Hp is locked down. I know there must be a way to overclock, maybe setfsb, but I don't really need to that bad. My Graphics card is good enough overclocked. The CPU isn't too bad.
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Master Guru
Videocard: 2 x 6950 1Gb CF
Processor: i5 2500k @ 4.4Ghz
Mainboard: Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Gen3
Memory: 16GB Mushkin DDR3 1600
Soundcard: X-FI Titanium/Onkyo/Polk
PSU: Seasonic X-1050
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05-02-2012, 05:30
| posts: 663 | Location: Orange County, CA
Depending on the game, OCing the GPU may have more of an effect anyway. WHat are your GPU temps in game now?
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Master Guru
Videocard: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6950
Processor: i5 2500K
Mainboard: Asrock Z77 PRO 4
Memory: Corsair 2x4GB 2 channels
Soundcard: HDTV speakers Realtek
PSU: OCZ 600W StealthXStream
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05-03-2012, 02:19
| posts: 254 | Location: California
Quote:
Originally Posted by automaticman
Depending on the game, OCing the GPU may have more of an effect anyway. WHat are your GPU temps in game now?
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The temp of the GPU stays at approximately 30 degrees celcius without a game during the game it won't go over 40 degrees celcius
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Don Pinguccino
Videocard: XFX Radeon HD 6870
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K @4.5
Mainboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H
Memory: Patriot 4 x 4GB DDR3-1600
Soundcard: Auzentech X-Raider 7.1
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W
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05-03-2012, 03:29
| posts: 18,773 | Location: Toronto, Canada
Usually when you have an OEM rig, you won't be in the business of overclocking as the majority of them will lock down the BIOS to prevent this. This is so that people won't go after them for killing their hardware due to an improper overclock.
OEM machines are usually worse in the fact that the build quality is mediocre at best. They use the cheapest parts than quality parts even in their more expensive workstation lines. Many of their PSUs are generic ones that just fits the bill and any attempts to increase the load of the PSU may cause PSU failures or worse.
If gaming is your prerogative, the best solution right now is to upgrade your GPU to at least something like the GeForce GT 560 or the Radeon HD 6870. Though, you may need to get a new power supply so it can support gamer-grade cards; 385W is not enough power. If you want even better experience, it's recommended that you rebuild your rig. An Intel Core 2 Duo is no longer up to snuff in terms of gaming, it's 3 generations behind and is due for an upgrade.
deltatux
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Master Guru
Videocard: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6950
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Memory: Corsair 2x4GB 2 channels
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05-04-2012, 01:14
| posts: 254 | Location: California
Quote:
Originally Posted by deltatux
If gaming is your prerogative, the best solution right now is to upgrade your GPU to at least something like the GeForce GT 560 or the Radeon HD 6870. Though, you may need to get a new power supply so it can support gamer-grade cards; 385W is not enough power. If you want even better experience, it's recommended that you rebuild your rig. An Intel Core 2 Duo is no longer up to snuff in terms of gaming, it's 3 generations behind and is due for an upgrade.
deltatux
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Core 2 duo isn't even that bad although I could upgrade to a C2C and I just bought the GT 440 recently. I am not a hardcore gamer; furthermore, I can tolerate some lag. Do you mean the GTX 560? there's no such thing as the GT 560. I am well off where I am. The GTX 560s cost up to $220. A non-OEM motherboard I assume will be expensive. Yes, I agree the GT 440 isn't the best, but it sure is better than integrated. There will constantly be new CPUs generating ahead of the next.
Here are my recommendations with this mobo.
Core 2 Quad
Geforce GTX 560
500W PSU
PSU->Graphics card power plug
Corsair Revengence 4x2GB
Please reply and give me your recommendations thanks
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Master Guru
Videocard: 2 x 6950 1Gb CF
Processor: i5 2500k @ 4.4Ghz
Mainboard: Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Gen3
Memory: 16GB Mushkin DDR3 1600
Soundcard: X-FI Titanium/Onkyo/Polk
PSU: Seasonic X-1050
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05-04-2012, 03:59
| posts: 663 | Location: Orange County, CA
what kind of games are you playing anyway? And what resolution is your monitor?
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Master Guru
Videocard: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6950
Processor: i5 2500K
Mainboard: Asrock Z77 PRO 4
Memory: Corsair 2x4GB 2 channels
Soundcard: HDTV speakers Realtek
PSU: OCZ 600W StealthXStream
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05-04-2012, 04:31
| posts: 254 | Location: California
Quote:
Originally Posted by automaticman
what kind of games are you playing anyway? And what resolution is your monitor?
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My monitor resolution is 1920x1080p 60Hz refresh in-game. The type of games I am playing are crysis 2 and battlefield 3 which run fine in medium settings. I just want to overclock my cpu because other people have overclocked theirs. I think I want to upgrade to an Intel Xeon E5405 @ 2.00GHz(Quad) or a Q6600 or Q6700 quad cpu. I just can't get through lame OEM overclocking. Unless I use clockgen or Setfsb, but I don't know my PLL
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Master Guru
Videocard: 2 x 6950 1Gb CF
Processor: i5 2500k @ 4.4Ghz
Mainboard: Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Gen3
Memory: 16GB Mushkin DDR3 1600
Soundcard: X-FI Titanium/Onkyo/Polk
PSU: Seasonic X-1050
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05-04-2012, 04:47
| posts: 663 | Location: Orange County, CA
Yeah BF3 in particular really did not like my C2D ( E8600@ 4.0ghz). CPU usage was always bottlenecking my graphics cards, and I found it got much worse with 48/64 player maps.
Bear in mind that BF3 is one of the most strenuous games for a pc to run these days. The GTX 560 is a good card for that game, and they start at around $154 on newegg right now.
More cpu cores will definitely help, but i have a hard time recommending anyone to spend money on an obsolete ( and likely hard to find) Core2Quad.
I would maybe get a 560 for now and look at building yourself a sandy/ivy bridge pc when you can. Even the lower end SB CPUs just perform so much better than an equivalent C2D chip.
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Master Guru
Videocard: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6950
Processor: i5 2500K
Mainboard: Asrock Z77 PRO 4
Memory: Corsair 2x4GB 2 channels
Soundcard: HDTV speakers Realtek
PSU: OCZ 600W StealthXStream
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05-04-2012, 05:28
| posts: 254 | Location: California
Quote:
Originally Posted by automaticman
Yeah BF3 in particular really did not like my C2D ( E8600@ 4.0ghz). CPU usage was always bottlenecking my graphics cards, and I found it got much worse with 48/64 player maps.
Bear in mind that BF3 is one of the most strenuous games for a pc to run these days. The GTX 560 is a good card for that game, and they start at around $154 on newegg right now.
More cpu cores will definitely help, but i have a hard time recommending anyone to spend money on an obsolete ( and likely hard to find) Core2Quad.
I would maybe get a 560 for now and look at building yourself a sandy/ivy bridge pc when you can. Even the lower end SB CPUs just perform so much better than an equivalent C2D chip.
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Thanks and that is a good recommendation. I should sell my Radeon HD 3650 and GT 440 GDDR5 to buy a GTX560, or even on ebay.
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