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Default two 570's faster than one 580? - 04-30-2012, 23:07 | posts: 278 | Location: Out there in Iowa

Just wondered.
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 23:10 | posts: 14,696 | Location: New Jersey, USA

yes they are
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 23:27 | posts: 4,826 | Location: Land of the Great Downunder

they are, but only if youre not CPU bottlenecked and only if the game supports SLI.
   
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Default 04-30-2012, 23:31 | posts: 9,519 | Location: UK

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Just wondered.
Wonderings really easy to do these days.

Try this wonder, Google:
"570 sli" vs 580

   
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Default 04-30-2012, 23:34 | posts: 278 | Location: Out there in Iowa

Sure I googled it but rather hear it from you guys, the ones that actually use them everyday.
   
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Default 05-01-2012, 02:56 | posts: 2,010 | Location: Evans Ga,USA

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they are, but only if youre not CPU bottlenecked and only if the game supports SLI.
Best Answer^
   
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Default 05-01-2012, 03:15 | posts: 120 | Location: Portugal/Lisbon

Even 2 GTX560Ti are faster then 1 GTX580(stock) common....wakywaky...
   
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ONE CARD MAN ALWAYS SINCE voodo days!!
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Talking ONE CARD MAN ALWAYS SINCE voodo days!! - 05-01-2012, 04:05 | posts: 2

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Just wondered.
To me sli is just a gimmick to make u buy more cards. I have always used just one card and never had a problem running any game ever, of course you do have to buy a higher end one, but still cheaper in the long run than two cards. Id spend my money on better mb, ram, etc made to run the sheet out of the one card. AFTER ALL WHEN THE GAME IS RUNNING AT 100 FPS DO YOU REALLY NEED 110 THEN? Really why because you can tell the difference? I don't think so. Plus SLI just causes more upkeep, headaches, heat, power usage etc for what? More fps when the first card already smokes the fps anyway? Bah I say to sli!!! Buy a smoking high end single card and have less everything, except performance.

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Default 05-01-2012, 05:25 | posts: 382 | Location: Ottawa, Canada

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To me sli is just a gimmick to make u buy more cards. I have always used just one card and never had a problem running any game ever, of course you do have to buy a higher end one, but still cheaper in the long run than two cards. Id spend my money on better mb, ram, etc made to run the sheet out of the one card. AFTER ALL WHEN THE GAME IS RUNNING AT 100 FPS DO YOU REALLY NEED 110 THEN? Really why because you can tell the difference? I don't think so. Plus SLI just causes more upkeep, headaches, heat, power usage etc for what? More fps when the first card already smokes the fps anyway? Bah I say to sli!!! Buy a smoking high end single card and have less everything, except performance.
It depends on what you pay. I got my two 460s for less than a single 480, and they kill it. Cheaper and more power. Havn't had any heat issues, and I've been lucky so far to not have problems, minus 1-2 times sli turned itself off.
   
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Default 05-01-2012, 06:43 | posts: 718

Of course

570s are around 20% slower than 580s, so two 570s should easily beat out one 580 provided that SLI is working.
   
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Default 05-01-2012, 07:28 | posts: 680 | Location: Denmark

My two Gigabyte GTX 460 OC ed. 1GB in SLI are faster than one of my GTX 580 in 90% of my games.

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To me sli is just a gimmick to make u buy more cards. I have always used just one card and never had a problem running any game ever, of course you do have to buy a higher end one, but still cheaper in the long run than two cards. Id spend my money on better mb, ram, etc made to run the sheet out of the one card. AFTER ALL WHEN THE GAME IS RUNNING AT 100 FPS DO YOU REALLY NEED 110 THEN? Really why because you can tell the difference? I don't think so. Plus SLI just causes more upkeep, headaches, heat, power usage etc for what? More fps when the first card already smokes the fps anyway? Bah I say to sli!!! Buy a smoking high end single card and have less everything, except performance.
Well tell that to 3Dfx... oh sorry you can't

I've used 3Dfx SLi and now nVidia's SLi since 2006 and have permanently been running SLi ever since and I never had any issues. I have had the same problems with single and multicard configurations.
What good is the fastest ram, cpu, motherboard if you still get bottlenecked by the GPU performance at 2560x1200 ?
Luckily there's a market for each individual needs

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Default 05-01-2012, 15:26 | posts: 278 | Location: Out there in Iowa

I asked because I was thinking of picking up a used pc with 2 msi 570 twin frozr iii cards and a i72600k unlocked for a very good price.
I have a 580 with an i7 920 oc'd at the moment and thought the 2600 would be a nice upgrade but not sure about the cards. Thanks to the response here I went ahead and bought the used pc.
   
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Default 05-02-2012, 00:34 | posts: 68

Two GTX 570's in SLI beats 6990, want me to add anything more? ;-)
Make sure your cpu is running around ~4GHz.
   
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Default 05-02-2012, 00:38 | posts: 14,696 | Location: New Jersey, USA

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To me sli is just a gimmick to make u buy more cards. I have always used just one card and never had a problem running any game ever, of course you do have to buy a higher end one, but still cheaper in the long run than two cards. Id spend my money on better mb, ram, etc made to run the sheet out of the one card. AFTER ALL WHEN THE GAME IS RUNNING AT 100 FPS DO YOU REALLY NEED 110 THEN? Really why because you can tell the difference? I don't think so. Plus SLI just causes more upkeep, headaches, heat, power usage etc for what? More fps when the first card already smokes the fps anyway? Bah I say to sli!!! Buy a smoking high end single card and have less everything, except performance.
seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. 10 extra fps with sli?
   
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Default 05-02-2012, 04:46 | posts: 1,019 | Location: Monmouth County, NJ

I can't believe you even needed to create a topic to ask such a silly question.
   
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Default 05-04-2012, 16:57 | posts: 805 | Location: Miami

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seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. 10 extra fps with sli?
^ this.

2x 560 Ti
or even 2x GTX 460
out performs single GTX580

now dont start that pointing fingers game on my post please, i owned GTX460 SLI before and now i got 560 Ti, i know what im talking about. enabling sli ~ +90% performance.
   
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Default 05-05-2012, 02:06 | posts: 42 | Location: Austin, TX

Love my 560TI cards in SLI and haven't had a single problem with SLI that I haven't also had with a single card. As far as buying 2 lesser cards instead of spending $500+ on the higher end card goes, I could not afford spending that much money all at once. I bought one for $230 and 2 months later a 2nd for $200. Still less then the cost of 1 580 card at the time with greater performance and fit into my budget better.

Shouldn't hate on SLI, people have their reasons, and seems most issues have been worked out. At least for my setup anyway. I'd have a hard time letting go of SLI for 1 card now that I have it.
   
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Default 05-05-2012, 05:05 | posts: 68

Don't bite me, but 560TI as sli today is not that attractive as AMD 7950 especialy after OC.
560TI sli = AMD 7950 OC

but here is why AMD is better...

Price 400 bucks, yup, less than a good quality brand 560 TI in sli mode.
Power consumption
Heat
Noise
ONE GPU > ALWAYS better than multi GPU.
Microstuttering, some peoples said they don't "feel it" yeah, trust me it's still there

Only good reason to run 560 TI TODAY in SLI mode is when you already got one card.
You hate ati ;]

Otherwise ONE gpu is always a pure winner.

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Default 05-05-2012, 09:04 | posts: 42 | Location: Austin, TX

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Only good reason to run 560 TI TODAY in SLI mode is when you already got one card.
You hate ati ;]
Thats 2 of my reasons. Another being that I won't spend over $300 on a single video card. I just don't feel like the performance gain on a card for over that is worth the extra $100 or $200+ price tag they put on the cards, even thou my 2 together cost me $430, I bought each 3 months apart from each other, I have 2 cards for my money; not just one, and at the time of buying 2nd one there was no single card option better still then what i paid for the 2. And have had zero issues.

I'm not saying thst one way is right or wrong, or better or worse, just that for me, it just works out better and I've never been happier.

Sorry OP for going off topic.

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Default 05-05-2012, 16:05 | posts: 14,696 | Location: New Jersey, USA

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Don't bite me, but 560TI as sli today is not that attractive as AMD 7950 especialy after OC.
560TI sli = AMD 7950 OC

but here is why AMD is better...

Price 400 bucks, yup, less than a good quality brand 560 TI in sli mode.
Power consumption
Heat
Noise
ONE GPU > ALWAYS better than multi GPU.
Microstuttering, some peoples said they don't "feel it" yeah, trust me it's still there

Only good reason to run 560 TI TODAY in SLI mode is when you already got one card.
You hate ati ;]

Otherwise ONE gpu is always a pure winner.
670 TT review, the card looks awfully good
http://www.*********.com/articles/47...iew/index.html
   
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Default 05-06-2012, 04:03 | posts: 68

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670 TT review, the card looks awfully good
http://www.*********.com/articles/47...iew/index.html
Indeed, the GTX 670 is going to be a really well valued video card.
WTF? GTX 670 faster than HD7970 and cheaper.
AMD is in trouble, they will have to drop the prices.
I'm going to bet that 660Ti SLI = 680 GTX

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Default 05-06-2012, 05:49 | posts: 492 | Location: Sydney

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Don't bite me, but 560TI as sli today is not that attractive as AMD 7950 especialy after OC.
560TI sli = AMD 7950 OC

but here is why AMD is better...

Price 400 bucks, yup, less than a good quality brand 560 TI in sli mode.
Power consumption
Heat
Noise
ONE GPU > ALWAYS better than multi GPU.
Microstuttering, some peoples said they don't "feel it" yeah, trust me it's still there

Only good reason to run 560 TI TODAY in SLI mode is when you already got one card.
You hate ati ;]

Otherwise ONE gpu is always a pure winner.
How can you say this when you have Nvidias in SLI lol
   
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Default 05-06-2012, 06:00 | posts: 531 | Location: USA

My GTX570s score just over 11,000 in 3Dmark11 pushing a very minimal OC. So far I haven't seen a need to upgrade yet for 1920x1080. I don't know if I would want to try and push them for anything over 1920x1200 because of Vram limitations but in my case it's never been an issue.
   
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Default 05-06-2012, 06:19 | posts: 68

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How can you say this when you have Nvidias in SLI lol
Because I ain't a stupid fanboy?

AMD, Nvidia... All the same for me...
I'm always trying to pick what is a better bang for the buck. ie. his case.

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Default 05-06-2012, 07:09 | posts: 492 | Location: Sydney

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Because I ain't a stupid fanboy?

AMD, Nvidia... All the same for me...
I'm always trying to pick what is a better bang for the buck. ie. his case.
I meant for more the comment at the end where 1 card is winning. You don't like winning?
   
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