Before I get my hopes up on Win8 tablets...

[FULMTL]

I had this idea that I would get a Tegra3 Win8 tablet whenever they are out so I could use a desktop version of Photoshop/Illustrator/Painter and paint/draw directly on screen with a stylus. Do you think that would be possible? The quad CPU and 4GB of RAM should have enough speed to not lag while making strokes in realtime.
It would basically be like a portable Wacom Cintiq and much much cheaper although with limited button shortcuts. Can touchscreens detect various amounts of pen pressure?
Is this a lame idea to get out of using paper and pencil for good? Thought it would be a great time killer on the go.

[stone-eye]

From everything ive read tablet Win 8 (i.e ARM versions) will not support x86 desktop applications so youd be limited to any apps that get released for it.

I believe touchscreens can detect pressure, my galaxy note is supposed to be able to i think its just not been implemented yet.

Your best bet is to wait and see what full fat windows 8 tablets come out, with a mobile ivy bridge chip and an ultrabook profile they could still be a very useable tablet.

[ibitato]

Originally Posted by stone-eye

From everything ive read tablet Win 8 (i.e ARM versions) will not support x86 desktop applications so youd be limited to any apps that get released for it.

This.
It will all depend on software vendors and their willling to release soft on ARM/W8

[IPlayNaked]

I think Windows RT should be seen as its named, something separate from Windows 8. It's their tablet OS, Metro, I think, will be where the similarities end.

[FULMTL]

Gah, guess I just gotta wait. The problem with tablet PC's is the intel IGP. I'd rather have an AMD APU, but AMD doesn't make tablets/tablet PC's. Was thinking that the Tegra3 would have been perfect, but you guys say it won't use desktop programs ;/
If there was an elaborate paint program for Android, I would just grab an Android tablet, but I typically work with really large picture dimensions that would eat up the small amount of RAM tablets have.

[Sprecker]

Autodesk Sketch Mobile/Pro is brilliant. I use it on my Note. The is a note taking app called Papyrus that uses pressure sensativity on the Note with the S-pen but it lacks the options of AutoDesk Sketch. There is talk that AutoDesk is going to add Pressure sensativity in future updates. So far the only tablets I know of that have Wacom penabled screens are the Samsung Tab 10 and the Note. The Xoom has a pen you can get that doesn't just mimic your finger but it uses another meathod other than Wacom so I don't know if it can be used with the same apps.

[FULMTL]

Oh nice, thanks for the info! Looking at some vids now, and that's what I want to do. 10" Android tablet would be great since I know how to mess with Android OS now.

[research mode engaged]

Q: Is the Tegra3 the best Android CPU at the moment?
Q: Tablets only have 1GB or RAM at the moment?

I think I'm sold on the Asus Transformer since it has

"10.1-inch WXGA Super IPS+ capacitive pressure-sensing multi touch display made with Corning® Gorilla® Glass"

I just need to see if I can use a really large canvas with Autodesk Sketchbook Pro and I'll pick it up. I would hate to be stuck at a maximum canvas of 1280x800. If I'm working on something it's usually 2000-5000px wide or tall.

[Seref]

I think when they announced the Windows 8 ARM compatibility they said that some legacy applications will be cross-compatible. They used Microsoft Word as an example of a program that they could switch between x86 and ARM.

As for whether or not Tegra3 is the best atm, I know that there's a Snapdragon quadcore out right now but I'm not sure how well it benchmarks against Tegra. The new Exynos will be made available soon which will probably blow both out of the water as Samsung tends to do in SoC benchmarks.

[scatman839]

Originally Posted by FULMTL

I think I'm sold on the Asus Transformer since it has

Get the prime, not the basic transformer, or even the tf300, the original is lacking in speed.

[FULMTL]

^ yeah I meant the Transformer Prime.

After further research, looks like Autodesk Sketchbook Pro for Android currently cannot have a larger canvas resolution than the screen...
https://getsatisfaction.com/sketchbo...ro_for_android

I just have to deal with it. ;/

[Sprecker]

Originally Posted by FULMTL

^ yeah I meant the Transformer Prime.

After further research, looks like Autodesk Sketchbook Pro for Android currently cannot have a larger canvas resolution than the screen...
https://getsatisfaction.com/sketchbo...ro_for_android

I just have to deal with it. ;/

Front page news (G3D) posted today that Hp is doing an X86 Win8 Tablet. So that might be what you need. I don't know about the pressure sensative abilities or if it will be a wacom device or another meathod. Look further into the Transformer and see if it a Penabled device or used another digital pen device so you're no stuck "finger painting" and can do more acurate work.

[FULMTL]

Yeah I've looked up some pens already. So many to choose from but I think I'm just going to stick with Wacom.

Wasn't enough info on the HP tablet by the way.

[ibitato]

Originally Posted by FULMTL

Gah, guess I just gotta wait. The problem with tablet PC's is the intel IGP. I'd rather have an AMD APU, but AMD doesn't make tablets/tablet PC's. Was thinking that the Tegra3 would have been perfect, but you guys say it won't use desktop programs ;/
If there was an elaborate paint program for Android, I would just grab an Android tablet, but I typically work with really large picture dimensions that would eat up the small amount of RAM tablets have.

Wrong

There are tablets with AMD FUSION platform already.

We use both Acer Iconia W500 and MSI WindPad 110W

The specs are way better than Intel/Atom platforms and can cope with Tegra OK.

There have been there for months, we use them on our corporate solution, running W7 and x86 soft.

Just a pick of the specs :

Feature Specification
Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 32-bit
Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 32-bit (on W500P systems only)
CPU and chipset1 AMD C-Series dual-core processor C-50 (1 MB L2 cache, 1 GHz, DDR3 1066 MHz, 9 W)
AMD A50M Fusion™ Controller Hub
Memory1, 2, Up to 2 GB of DDR3 onboard system memory
Display1 10.1" HD 1280 x 800 resolution, high-brightness (350-nit), 146 PPI Acer CrystalBrite™ LED-backlit TFT LCD with integrated multi-touch screen, supporting finger touch and image auto rotation
Wide viewing angle up to 80/80/80/80 degrees (up/down/left/right)
Mercury-free, environment-friendly
Graphics AMD Radeon™ HD 6250 Graphics with 256 MB of dedicated system memory, supporting Unified Video Decoder 3 (UVD3), OpenGL® 3.1, OpenEXR High Dynamic-Range (HDR) technology, Shader Model 5.0, Microsoft® DirectX® 11
Dual independent display support
16.7 million colors
External resolution / refresh rates3:
VGA port up to 1920 x 1200: 60 Hz
HDMI™ port up to 1920 x 1080: 60 Hz
MPEG-2 DVD decoding
VC-1 and H.264 AVC decoding
MPEG-4 Part 2 DivX® decoding
HDMI® (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) with HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection) support

People are continously overlooking the market and making biased and incomplete conclusions......

Intel is trying to push some N cpu series to compete with the AMD Z-01 fusion specs and consumption, in this segment (x86 tablets).

this should be for Q3 of this year.

ATM, if you need / want a x86 tablet, AMD z-01 it's a good solution

[FULMTL]

Yeah I saw those, but I quickly dismissed them since they only support 2GB of RAM max. I know the next wave of tablets will be 4GB, and I could really use that headroom. Photoshop will give me low memory errors, and then stop responding if it doesn't have enough RAM. Then all that work I did will be for nothing. That's why I have 16GB of RAM now haha.

Have you had any problems with low memory?

[ibitato]

Originally Posted by FULMTL

Yeah I saw those, but I quickly dismissed them since they only support 2GB of RAM max. I know the next wave of tablets will be 4GB, and I could really use that headroom.

Have you had any problems with low memory?

Not at the moment, but:

1) We take all the sh1t out of the tablet, that is uninstall all unnecesary stuff
and kill all unnecesary services, etc

2) configure the tablet for performance

like i said, we use it for corporate purpouses , and our software is very optimised for x86 machines (its been there on the market for 14 years).

apart from that , adobe reader 10, open office, office, etc is beign used no problem.

and yes, 2GB seems to be on the low limit, but with w7 and tweaking a bit, is not a problem (for us).

just to remind that if machine is mem swaping, hd is solid state, so the swaping is a bit faster