Windows 8 'Release Preview' in June - Page 2

Yxskaft · 05-31-2012, 20:01 | posts: 477

I want it to be like a refined Windows 7...I shall not have to mod and such to get that, that will only be bothersome in the run when updates can potentially break the changes

I hope they support DX11.1 on Win7/Vista..I've always expected DX12 to require an OS upgrade however

deltatux · 05-31-2012, 20:09 | posts: 18,761 | Location: Toronto, Canada

Windows 8 Release Preview (a.k.a "Release Candidate" in the real world) is now out:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso

deltatux

Xzibit · 05-31-2012, 20:11 | posts: 4,383 | Location: Europe

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso

Mikedogg · 05-31-2012, 20:13 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

Nm..

IPlayNaked · 05-31-2012, 20:15 | posts: 6,559

No, you can't, haven't been able to since the developer preview.

alanm · 05-31-2012, 20:19 | posts: 4,958

I think the reason for metro was simply to add something flashy and new to give 8 some distance from 7. MS imo is afraid of criticism that 8 is just another 7 and not a justifiable upgrade, at least for the desktop. Even though it may be better and improved under the hood, presentation and gimmickry reign supreme in marketing. For mobile devices it may be another story and where metro makes more sense. Personally I'm not too bothered by metro and think I can live with it. I havent touched the consumer preview in several weeks, something about it (not metro) annoys me, cant recall exactly what.

deltatux · 05-31-2012, 20:34 | posts: 18,761 | Location: Toronto, Canada

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Originally Posted by Xzibit

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso

lol, way to double post me

deltatux

PhazeDelta1 · 05-31-2012, 20:51 | posts: 9,311 | Location: 90° N

I would like to throw this on my tablet and mess around with this OS at some point.

Lane · *Last edited by Lane; 05-31-2012 at 21:58.*

Windows server 2012 Release Candidate is now too available.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/e.../hh670538.aspx

scatman839 · 05-31-2012, 23:00 | posts: 8,727 | Location: Dundee, Scotland

Tried it, lasted about an hour.

:boke:

Even on normal windows mode it was a nuisance, no option for a start menu, windows media player is awol, no tutorial for the new design, unintuitive layout for a m/kb.

New file explorer seemed better though, and the bootloader is cool.

Mikedogg · 05-31-2012, 23:04 | posts: 2,872 | Location: The Freak Show - Earth.

Anyone else having any problems getting it to setup through "Vmware."

NeoElNino · 06-01-2012, 01:51 | posts: 926 | Location: Canada

Metro is for Tablets, if you dont have one im sure Microsoft will have an option to turn it off EASILY especially for us using Desktops or laptops.

alanm · 06-01-2012, 04:50 | posts: 4,958

MS damn bastards. I DL'd the 64bit version to a drive with 300gb free space but IE's temp files were on a small drive with about 3gb free space and as a result, the 3.3gb ISO was incomplete/corrupt. FFFFFUUUUU to the idiot at MS who made such large downloads dependent on IE's cache regardless of how spacious the destination location is. Will do it again with firefox portable.

yosef019 · 06-01-2012, 08:30 | posts: 1,283 | Location: Israel - Haifa

i have problems instaling apps/games from app store anyone else?

qqiiipp · **Memory**: 2x2GB DDR2 5.5.5.15

Can anyone confirm the existence of the new file system ?

Teko · **Memory**: 8GB DDR3 7-7-7-21

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Originally Posted by NeoElNino

Metro is for Tablets, if you dont have one im sure Microsoft will have an option to turn it off EASILY especially for us using Desktops or laptops.

MS isn't going to allow this, their focus is making the Metro UI keyboard & mouse friendly --- they're wanting everything to be the same from phone to tablet to PC. You still have your desktop mode, which is all you need. From the DP to RP, I think they've done a great job with making the metro UI keyboard & mouse friendly. I'm actually finding it to work pretty well in the Release Preview --- navigation was handicapped in the DP & CP imo. As far all the "i hate metro" &" this is for a touchscreen" rambling. Don't let this OS have the "Vista effect" on you, take time to learn whats new. I think it's that people are really thrown off by the fact that the Metro UI "start screen" is the default screen now, but really its nothing but the same old start menu, just fancied up a bit with a new look & functionality. You just don't have a visible "Start" or "Windows Orb" button now, but the functionality is still there ---clicking in the bottom left corner brings the start screen up just like a "button" would, and of course it brings the desktop up when you're already on the start screen. Or simply pressing the Windows Key does the same. It that any different than any other Windows OS since 95?

As for the default apps listed on the metro start screen, you don't have to use the metro apps, i personally kind of like the Pictures, SkyDrive & News metro apps (although metro IE & music player suck), and I'm sure there will be plenty more goodies to use once the 'Store' gets more apps listed --- a Windows Phone 7 user would probably easily see the potential here, i do. But like I said, if you don't want the metro apps, just un-pin them from your start screen and add the apps you want to show there. In the RP you're able to close apps now; if you hover in the bottom left corner and move your mouse up you'll see thumbnails of apps that are running in "suspended mode", right click one and you have the option to either close it or "snap" it to the left or right side of your screen.

I thought MS was crazy for this at first but so far, thumbs up from me

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Originally Posted by qqiiipp

Can anyone confirm the existence of the new file system ?

NTFS only, ReFS is only going to be available in Server versions

Quote:

Originally Posted by scatman839

Tried it, lasted about an hour.

:boke:

Even on normal windows mode it was a nuisance, no option for a start menu, windows media player is awol, no tutorial for the new design, unintuitive layout for a m/kb.

New file explorer seemed better though, and the bootloader is cool.

WMP is not a metro app, right click i the metro start screen, click all apps and its listed in there...pin in to the start or start screen or taskbar if you want.

Denial · 06-01-2012, 15:12 | posts: 6,348 | Location: Above Earth in a Big Rocket Ship

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Originally Posted by NeoElNino

Metro is for Tablets, if you dont have one im sure Microsoft will have an option to turn it off EASILY especially for us using Desktops or laptops.

Not only will this not happen but there was just an article the other day saying they stripped out all the legacy code to allow 3rd party companies to do this. I'm sure there will still be work arounds, but it won't be as easy.

Yxskaft · 06-01-2012, 15:25 | posts: 477

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Originally Posted by Denial

Not only will this not happen but there was just an article the other day saying they stripped out all the legacy code to allow 3rd party companies to do this. I'm sure there will still be work arounds, but it won't be as easy.

I don't see why anyone should bother with work arounds either...Will probably only complicate when getting the big updates and service packs

I could consider Win8 if it looked like Win7, but this I won't...

Darren Hodgson · 06-01-2012, 15:30 | posts: 9,654 | Location: England

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Originally Posted by Kaleid

I'll skip it completely.

Same here.

I see no reason to upgrade to Windows 8 like I did Windows 7, which at least promised (and delivered) improved performance over the slow and clunky beta version known as Vista! From what I've read of Windows 8, it sounds more like it has been made with notebooks and other low-performance platforms in mind - the removal of the Aero glass effects for example and the supposed streamlining - plus the removal of the Start button and Metro interface just do not appeal at all. I'm that apathetic about Windows 8 that I can't even sum up any motivation to try the beta/pre-release version.

Unless DirectX 12 launches only for Windows 8 then I see no benefits at the moment to considering an upgrade. Windows 7 will likely become the new Windows XP and be around for years. In this current economic climate I'm pretty sure most people will stick with what they have. I've a sneaking suspicion though that Windows 8 will be the next Me or Vista; don't know why, it's just a feeling I have (or perhaps just wishful thinking?).

Teko · **Memory**: 8GB DDR3 7-7-7-21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yxskaft

I could consider Win8 if it looked like Win7, but this I won't...

So am I missing something here?

Redemption80 · 06-01-2012, 15:56 | posts: 13,412 | Location: Glasgow

Don’t see the point of a new OS that looks like the last one, whether people like it or not things have to, and will change, and we have had the existing one for nearly 6 years now.

Every new GUI change has been greeted with mass panic and uproar, but eventually most people go along with it, and years later they end defending how awesome it is when the next new GUI change is introduced.

If people are big fans of Windows7 then there is no need to change, it’s a perfectly fine OS and still has a long life ahead.

Exodite · 06-01-2012, 16:15 | posts: 1,628 | Location: Luleå, Sweden

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Originally Posted by Redemption80

Don’t see the point of a new OS that looks like the last one, whether people like it or not things have to, and will change, and we have had the existing one for nearly 6 years now.

I don't see the point of a new OS that doesn't look like the last iteration.

Making the UI a moving target breaks the very fundamentals of good design as well as makes it terrible on the users.

On the upside 'Metro' may be what finally pushes the us into a world where Windows isn't running on 95% of all computers.

Teko · **Memory**: 8GB DDR3 7-7-7-21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodite

I don't see the point of a new OS that doesn't look like the last iteration.

Making the UI a moving target breaks the very fundamentals of good design as well as makes it terrible on the users.

On the upside 'Metro' may be what finally pushes the us into a world where Windows isn't running on 95% of all computers.

well...I guess people are still being mindf-cked by the metro start screen

Question, have you installed and used the RP yet?

Redemption80 · 06-01-2012, 16:33 | posts: 13,412 | Location: Glasgow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodite

I don't see the point of a new OS that doesn't look like the last iteration.

Making the UI a moving target breaks the very fundamentals of good design as well as makes it terrible on the users.

On the upside 'Metro' may be what finally pushes the us into a world where Windows isn't running on 95% of all computers.

I’ve been hearing the same GUI arguments for 15 years now though.

Yeah, that must be Microsoft’s master plan lol.
Metro is more likely to push us into a world were 95% of consumer computers a tablets, and 5% are desktops, than Windows to become a tiny minority OS.

IPlayNaked · 06-01-2012, 17:16 | posts: 6,559

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodite

I don't see the point of a new OS that doesn't look like the last iteration.

Making the UI a moving target breaks the very fundamentals of good design as well as makes it terrible on the users.

On the upside 'Metro' may be what finally pushes the us into a world where Windows isn't running on 95% of all computers.

lol, yes, we should never touch UI.

Hey, what's the dos command for changing my resolution?

UIs evolve with time. It's how things works. The UI isn't that different that people are going to be completely lost.