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Default Skyrim crossfire fix petition. - 04-24-2012, 08:59 | posts: 445 | Location: UK

Is there anyone out there who still suffers from bad scaling and/or flickering textures with crossfire enabled, with AMD whatever drivers ?

We need to start a petition and send it to AMD (in the nicest possible way) for them to acknowledge and address the situation.

ps. If you don't get flickering textures and have good scaling please dont here just to say that you do.

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Default 04-24-2012, 11:45 | posts: 494

Yes me. Whatever I do, if I leave it at default the texture flicker (with and without CAP's). lf I set it to AFR friendly the whole screen flickers yellow in the menu aswell as the face of the character.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 12:03 | posts: 1,061 | Location: Czech Republic

From my experience, if problem wasnt fixed for older generation of gfx cards in like 6 months, its already too late to hope that they will fix it (i mean for any problematic game on ATI/AMD cards). By the way, i would post this on RAGE3D forum, rather then here, since RAGE3D is more oriented towards AMD/ATI cards.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 12:07 | posts: 8 | Location: London

3 x 7970's here.

Flickering water, flying horses, the lot

Hard to say if this is all driver related, it could be the game too.

Whatever the cause, its killing my love for the game.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 12:10 | posts: 21 | Location: South Africa

Hi,

I've been playing skryrim for a while now ...

I don't get flickering with my crossfire setup.
(I used to get the "yellow" flickering on the map - but that was fixed few drivers ago...?)
Using the 12.4 driver atm.

However I do have micro stuttering. (this has been since the game came out - it think)

I've got the issue where in "3rd person mode" there is no stuttering. But in "1st person mode" there is huge stutter - only indoors.
There's a lot of threads on the net with similar issues.

The best solution that I've come across was to play in window mode
and because window mode is not really a "nice" way of playing ...
..I used one of those borderless window fixes/mods found on the skyrim nexusmods site
(At least it removes the border and centers the window - so you can't notice the difference between full screen and window mode)


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Default 04-24-2012, 12:12 | posts: 8 | Location: London

To be fair, apart from the Witcher 2, its the only game where I have had problems. All other games are fine.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 12:16 | posts: 64 | Location: Scotland

I had a crossfire 6850 setup and I did have yellow flickering on the map a few drivers ago but it was all fixed around the 12.1 driver. I believe the problem still exists for people with 6870x2 cards.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 12:16 | posts: 259 | Location: Portugal

I bought skyrim and its the only game i have issues with... but also it depends on the drivers.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 12:24 | posts: 494

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Hi,

I've been playing skryrim for a while now ...

I don't get flickering with my crossfire setup.
(I used to get the "yellow" flickering on the map - but that was fixed few drivers ago...?)
Using the 12.4 driver atm.

However I do have micro stuttering. (this has been since the game came out - it think)

I've got the issue where in "3rd person mode" there is no stuttering. But in "1st person mode" there is huge stutter - only indoors.
There's a lot of threads on the net with similar issues.

The best solution that I've come across was to play in window mode
and because window mode is not really a "nice" way of playing ...
..I used one of those borderless window fixes/mods found on the skyrim nexusmods site
(At least it removes the border and centers the window - so you can't notice the difference between full screen and window mode)


Regards,
Chris
Playing in windowed mode disables Crossfire --> no option
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 12:30 | posts: 2,212 | Location: Canada

I don't run a crossfire setup but one thing did happen to me with this game, when it was first released I tweaked the command file to allow for more vegetation and such things and set it to read-only, when the game was later patch I got the odd flickering texture, apparently there were changes made to how the command file was written and with the file set to read-only it wasn't updated properly, once I deleted it and let the game recreate it the game ran fine.

I'm sure most of you guys with this problem have tried everything and wish your petition the best.

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Default 04-24-2012, 12:35 | posts: 403 | Location: miami

I think this should be changed to amd fix for skyrim I had a cf setup 6850 upgraded to. 7970 and all the micro stutter I got indoors is still presant on my single gpu configuration. So my point being amd needs a fix in genral.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 12:47 | posts: 20,476 | Location: Netherlands

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when it was first released I tweaked the command file to allow for more vegetation and such things and set it to read-only,
What command is that ?
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 12:55 | posts: 494

rflair, I initially believed that was the issue for me too, but a fresh install of the game and later on a fresh windows 8 install & fresh skyrim install proved me wrong Its 100% related to the driver
As I found on this site: "If you try to enter the quest menu the screen will flicker, because it's loading two separate frame buffers from each card. Nothing you can really do about it without having to modify the drivers "
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 13:00 | posts: 21 | Location: South Africa

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Playing in windowed mode disables Crossfire --> no option
okay -
1) how can i confirm that (MSI Afterburner OSD ?)
2) the interesting thing is - I've disabled crossfire (using radeon pro) and there is still stutter using one card, - it however was an improvement - but still there.

What baffles me is that 3rd person (full screen, therefore will assuming CFX is working) is 100% smooth?
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 13:02 | posts: 2,212 | Location: Canada

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rflair, I initially believed that was the issue for me too, but a fresh install of the game and later on a fresh windows 8 install & fresh skyrim install proved me wrong Its 100% related to the driver
As I found on this site: "If you try to enter the quest menu the screen will flicker, because it's loading two separate frame buffers from each card. Nothing you can really do about it without having to modify the drivers "
I believe you guys.

It was just something that happened to me and was easily fixed.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 13:14 | posts: 2,212 | Location: Canada

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What command is that ?
Was the skyrimprefs.ini I believe, you know where you could set the draw distance for things like grass and trees and their density.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 13:14 | posts: 494

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okay -
1) how can i confirm that (MSI Afterburner OSD ?)
2) the interesting thing is - I've disabled crossfire (using radeon pro) and there is still stutter using one card, - it however was an improvement - but still there.

What baffles me is that 3rd person (full screen, therefore will assuming CFX is working) is 100% smooth?
1) Yeah just run Afterburner, go to Settings and in the OSD tab check both GPU's load and check the "Display in OSD" on each a few lines below.

2) Its the notorious 64hz bug, google it for more information. It's an issue with Skyrim's engine, has been there in Fallout too.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 14:09 | posts: 61

Its been said a million times, flickering happens on all hardware IF YOU TURN VSYNC OFF in skyrim. DO NOT TURN VSYNC OFF IN SKYRIM.

The vsync in skyrim is tied to the physics engine and you CANNOT turn it off for play, turn vsync on and the flickering will be gone. This happens on geforce cards as well. In fact, you can youtube it and find numerous videos of flickering on geforce cards with vsync off in skyrim. You can turn vsync off in other games but NOT SKYRIM.

Happens on the geforce 680 here, also happened on my 680s: Here you can see skyrim flickering on the GTX 680 at the 9 minute mark. Just goes to show you guys are quick to blame drivers but the game engine is to blame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPYEOUH7LE

point is TURN VSYNC ON IN SKYRIM, problem solved.

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Default 04-24-2012, 14:19 | posts: 494

Nope, it does not cure the flicker for me. Sure I tried to force it off, did no change in flickering, so I deleted the ipresentinterval=0 again.
Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHu9DSf2O9A&t=20s is what I'm talking about.

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Default 04-24-2012, 16:35 | posts: 713

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Its been said a million times, flickering happens on all hardware IF YOU TURN VSYNC OFF in skyrim. DO NOT TURN VSYNC OFF IN SKYRIM.

The vsync in skyrim is tied to the physics engine and you CANNOT turn it off for play, turn vsync on and the flickering will be gone. This happens on geforce cards as well. In fact, you can youtube it and find numerous videos of flickering on geforce cards with vsync off in skyrim. You can turn vsync off in other games but NOT SKYRIM.

Happens on the geforce 680 here, also happened on my 680s: Here you can see skyrim flickering on the GTX 680 at the 9 minute mark. Just goes to show you guys are quick to blame drivers but the game engine is to blame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPYEOUH7LE

point is TURN VSYNC ON IN SKYRIM, problem solved.
you think people who are saying skyrim sucks in crossfire are all turning off their vsync? get real
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 16:59 | posts: 445 | Location: UK

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From my experience, if problem wasnt fixed for older generation of gfx cards in like 6 months, its already too late to hope that they will fix it (i mean for any problematic game on ATI/AMD cards). By the way, i would post this on RAGE3D forum, rather then here, since RAGE3D is more oriented towards AMD/ATI cards.
not entirely true i noticed in recent release notes AMD fixed some problem with quake 4, i remember buying that game in 2005 i think, anyway i didn't think I'd get this kind of response so quick in fact i thought i was the only one left with skyrim crossfire problems, so one thing left to do and thats start a petition, one question, how do we do it ? i'm not a great whiz with Internet so may need some help.

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Default 04-24-2012, 18:48 | posts: 1,712 | Location: NZ/Australia/Germany

I wouldn't be so sure it's a driver problem.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 19:06 | posts: 4,919 | Location: PA, USA

Well I don't have flickering issues and the like. But I'd sign this to help out anyway!

I just find it strange that one person has the issue and the next doesn't, and on very similar hardware.
   
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Default 04-24-2012, 19:26 | posts: 494

That is was drives us crazy, Ghost. What counts for 1 user does not mean another guy with the same GPU has the same performance with the same driver.
   
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