Which one to start C++ or C#?

[Mohsin hadi]

Hello.
I want to ask about programming language.
I m a begner in programming and i m bit confused from where to start,some people said that for c# you have to learn C++ first,is it true?
Is it possible to to learn c# without learning C++?
Which one is widely used in windows apps and game designing etc.
I want you to guide me through the right path,where to go and how to.
Thnakx.

[proliferazor]

Originally Posted by Mohsin hadi

Hello.
I want to ask about programming language.
I m a begner in programming and i m bit confused from where to start,
Thnakx.

Check my List at the bottom.

Originally Posted by Mohsin hadi

Hello.
people said that for c# you have to learn C++ first,is it true?

No, however c# is easier to learn, but c++ is lower level means you can have greater control over your code, but requires more work, it is also faster.

Originally Posted by Mohsin hadi

Is it possible to to learn c# without learning C++?

Yes. In fact I would recommend learning C# first. Then c++. You do not have to, I just think it would be easier.

Originally Posted by Mohsin hadi

Which one is widely used in windows apps and game designing etc.

Most AAA games are written in c++ and/or c. It is however easier to write windows style apps with C# and .net ( and simple games with XNA ). Unless you use a API like GUI QT with c++.

If you want to make game engines then c++ is what you want to learn.

Originally Posted by Mohsin hadi

I want you to guide me through the right path,where to go and how to.

If you really are serious about this, you will need to read a lot. And write a lot of code. If you go the c++/directx or c++/openGL route then I recommend you first learn the older fixed function pipeline first, and get comfortable with it and 3D math, before trying to tackle shaders. As always ractice practice .....

Here are some books I recommend for c++

-Beginner
Beginning C++ through Game Programming http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-C-Th...5137422&sr=8-1

Beginning Game Programming 3rd ed (intro to directx) http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Game...5137920&sr=1-1

-Advanced
Game Coding Complete 4th ed ( really good book on making game engines ) http://www.amazon.com/Game-Coding-Co...5137625&sr=8-1


-Advance How to write highly readable, easily maintainable, quality code
Code Complete 2 ed (this book is ****ing awesome) http://www.amazon.com/Code-Complete-...5137512&sr=8-1


However your best option right now, IMO is joining 3Dbuzz, they have just started doing live c++ classes, you get to ask questions, they assign homework (optional) and there is a test at the end of each course. It isn't free but it's not expensive at all either. Read about it here.
http://www.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showth...?192196&ref=21

You can watch the first c++ class for free here
http://downloads.3dbuzz.com/Cpp_Class_1_4_13_12.rar

[Mohsin hadi]

Thanx alot dear...your information is much helpful and i m already downloaded the first class from 3Dbuzz,but brother here in Pakistan its not easy for us to buy the online books and to attend online lectures,is there any tutorials are available at you tube or any other place?
And i meanly want to join the windows apps and game designing.

[Mohsin hadi]

Its not possible for me to buy a book from online retailer...we have so many problems here in Pakistan.sorry for my poor English.

[proliferazor]

You do not have to attend the 3dBuzz classes live you can always watch them by streaming after they do the live class.

With out books you will have a harder time but not impossible.

There are lots of websites to help you.

http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/hh386302

http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cpp/

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/c%2b%2b

http://www.gamedev.net/forum/31-for-beginners/

That should get you started, and don't forget, google is your BEST FRIEND use it to find any thing you need.

Free windows IDE
http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudi...al-cpp-express

[allesclar]

C++ is the best starting one.