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Default 04-08-2012, 17:14 | posts: 1,070

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Good choice, I am also waiting for the i7 3770 to come out.
I am done with OC, why? Because everytime i got a CPU and I wanted to OC it i got problems, i got a E6600 and it would not OC, only 10% and that was with problems, games froze randomly, then i got an E8500, that was second hand and when i tried to OC it, it would not even post the PC, then i got a i7 920, that i did not even OC it myself, i set the Asus bios to CPU level up, but I got BSOD all the time, something with machine check and a clock interupt was not recieved bla bla. so i will limit myself from the start by getting a locked CPU, stick it in and forget about it.
Actually, every CPU you listed:

E6600
E8500
Core i7 920

Are factory locked. They aren't necessarily intended to be OCed although they can. Buying an unlocked CPU such as a Core i7 3770k for example would making an OC as easy as increasing the multiplier as intended by the manufacturer.

When you OC you should put the odds in your favor. Therefore, to some point you have been limiting yourself from the start.

Not trying to give you a hard time, I'm just saying,....
   
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Default 04-08-2012, 19:46 | posts: 1,070

Just came across this:

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by Ian Cutress on 4/8/2012 12:00:00 AM
Posted in Motherboards , Z77 , Intel , Ivy Bridge , ASRock , Asus , Gigabyte , MSI , ECS , Biostar

Well, today is a day that everyone was expecting but not the most exciting day of the month. Today, Intel officially releases the spate of 7-series chipsets for their 3rd generation Core microarchitecture processors (read Ė Ivy Bridge), despite the actual release of the processors being another three weeks away. This means that today we can actually look at, test, or purchase the range of motherboards that natively support Ivy Bridge. However, we canít officially publish all the benchmarks for these products using Ivy Bridge until that date three weeks away (to be honest, we are still testing!). So today we are going to have a good in depth look into the Z77 chipset itself, and the review products we have received to let you know what we think looks good. All these boards today will be fully reviewed, warts and all, with Ivy Bridge, as close to official release as possible.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5728/i...cs-and-biostar
   
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Default 04-11-2012, 23:31 | posts: 1,995 | Location: UK

So close yet so far! I can't wait to build my new rig but I need the 3570k to be released.
   
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Default 04-12-2012, 00:30 | posts: 1,070

Same here but in my case I am waiting for the Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770. I think I'm going with the ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe since it seems to have an Intel Thunderbolt header.
   
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Default 04-15-2012, 20:31 | posts: 1,068 | Location: Detroit,MI.USA

According to Fudzilla the IB release was pushed up to 23 April.

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26...-before-launch
   
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Default 04-16-2012, 13:40 | posts: 186 | Location: belgium

i was checking some reviews and i don't know if they are really "truth worthy"

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/466...w/index11.html

looks like IB runs pretty hot
   
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Default 04-17-2012, 01:18 | posts: 1,823 | Location: USA

i get the feeling that until the ltechnology matures the heat is going to be an issue. i personally don't OC much so it does not bother me. I will still get IB.
   
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Default 04-17-2012, 03:07 | posts: 19,054 | Location: Toronto, Canada

Just hope this launch won't be marred by the same launch we experienced with AMD's Bulldozer, all the hype causing a lot of people to scramble and buy a motherboard ahead of time only to see that the CPU itself falls short of expectations.

I'm personally waiting on the Intel Core i5 3570K and the ASUS Sabertooth Z77. Hopefully it arrives in late April, could use a rebuild from my AMD Phenom II 810 rig, it's really starting to show its age. Some hardware-related problems have started to slowly surface so I think it's high time to replace it. It's almost 4.5 years old.

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Default 04-17-2012, 03:44 | posts: 1,823 | Location: USA

Yes. I agree. I wont buy the sabertooth until IB is actually out but i really don't want it to be sold out immediately. I kinda hope this FUD prevents high demand.
   
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Default 04-17-2012, 03:55 | posts: 16,412 | Location: US East Coast

Being that it's Intel, I doubt we can expect the same fiasco as Bulldozer. Remember, this is just a die shrink of Sandy Bridge. Unfortunately, I was forced to order a Z77 motherboard this evening so I don't get the luxury of holding out til IB gets released to order....
   
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Default 04-17-2012, 03:59 | posts: 19,054 | Location: Toronto, Canada

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Being that it's Intel, I doubt we can expect the same fiasco as Bulldozer. Remember, this is just a die shrink of Sandy Bridge. Unfortunately, I was forced to order a Z77 motherboard this evening so I don't get the luxury of holding out til IB gets released to order....
Why were you forced? Did someone hold a gun to your head ?

No one would have thought what a technological blunder Netburst came to be... all products have a chance of disappointing the consumer even if it's just a minor update.

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Default 04-17-2012, 06:19 | posts: 9

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Being that it's Intel, I doubt we can expect the same fiasco as Bulldozer. Remember, this is just a die shrink of Sandy Bridge. Unfortunately, I was forced to order a Z77 motherboard this evening so I don't get the luxury of holding out til IB gets released to order....
What are you talking about, IB is released and there is already an unboxing on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwxzS-XD-4o
   
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Default 04-17-2012, 07:02 | posts: 1,823 | Location: USA

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What are you talking about, IB is released and there is already an unboxing on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwxzS-XD-4o
think they took it down already and no you can't buy it anywhere yet.

*edit they fixed it now.

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Default 04-17-2012, 11:18 | posts: 8,109 | Location: United Kingdom

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What are you talking about, IB is released and there is already an unboxing on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwxzS-XD-4o
lol
   
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rumors that it's getting pushed back to june?
   
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rumors that it's getting pushed back to june?
What I have seen they are no better than SB
   
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Default 04-18-2012, 16:18 | posts: 3,966 | Location: Australia

If you can get a 1GHz overclock on a SB and a 1GHz on IB, no doubt people will say IB is a failure. However, even if you can't clock higher you have to consider its a little faster at the same clock speed, so it isn't really a failure.

Like the majority of people buying a K processor I do plan to overclock when I purchase mine, but I'm not looking at some ridiculous uber-clocking. People shouldn't care if their i5-3570K can't hit 5GHz unless they are an enthusiast uber-clocker, most people would probably run them in the low 4GHz range from which the discussion tends to say is still very achievable (its only uber-clocking that suffers). I would much rather have an IB at 4.2GHz than a SB at 4.6Ghz, especially considering the IB at 4.2GHz will probably still be slightly faster.
   
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Default 04-18-2012, 16:34 | posts: 7,004

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rumors that it's getting pushed back to june?
The mobile CPU yes, and some I3 or I5, not the I7
   
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Default 04-18-2012, 16:38 | posts: 1,641 | Location: Argentina // Buenos Aires

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If you can get a 1GHz overclock on a SB and a 1GHz on IB, no doubt people will say IB is a failure. However, even if you can't clock higher you have to consider its a little faster at the same clock speed, so it isn't really a failure.

Like the majority of people buying a K processor I do plan to overclock when I purchase mine, but I'm not looking at some ridiculous uber-clocking. People shouldn't care if their i5-3570K can't hit 5GHz unless they are an enthusiast uber-clocker, most people would probably run them in the low 4GHz range from which the discussion tends to say is still very achievable (its only uber-clocking that suffers). I would much rather have an IB at 4.2GHz than a SB at 4.6Ghz, especially considering the IB at 4.2GHz will probably still be slightly faster.
I agree, but tests show they are gonna be hotter than SB?? so I dunno about real clock speed vs performance. I'll only speak when I see real, final reviews.
   
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Default 04-18-2012, 18:29 | posts: 1,270 | Location: Romania

It seems that the new i7-3770k will have the exact same TDP(95W) as the i7-2600k.In that case the performance should be the same.

Quote:"Why the big jump in TDP and worse overclocking performance? Well, rumors are floating around that this is due to Intelís new 22nm process and their use of the new Tri-gate transistors. Because Tri-gate transistors are in the most basic terms, transistors flipped on their side, Intel is able to cram a whole lot more transistors into a single die. Unfortunately, due to the amount of transistors being packed on the die itself, it seems like the heat produced is being trapped and isnít dissipating properly, which is why the new processors are such terrible overclockers." End of quote.

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Default 04-18-2012, 19:18 | posts: 1,641 | Location: Argentina // Buenos Aires

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It seems that the new i7-3770k will have the exact same TDP(95W) as the i7-2600k.In that case the performance should be the same.

Quote:"Why the big jump in TDP and worse overclocking performance? Well, rumors are floating around that this is due to Intelís new 22nm process and their use of the new Tri-gate transistors. Because Tri-gate transistors are in the most basic terms, transistors flipped on their side, Intel is able to cram a whole lot more transistors into a single die. Unfortunately, due to the amount of transistors being packed on the die itself, it seems like the heat produced is being trapped and isnít dissipating properly, which is why the new processors are such terrible overclockers." End of quote.

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This would be a shame I was really hoping for a good resize of the SB chips...
Having the same TDP doesn't mean they are better or worse performers at all.
It just means they generate the same heat and consume the same amount of energy.
We know that the IGP is going to be better but i'd like to know how better the CPUs are @ benchs and everyday use/productivity/gaming.

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its a die shrink it will have better clock for clock performance than SB. same performance based on same tdp? lol
   
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its a die shrink it will have better clock for clock performance than SB. same performance based on same tdp? lol
yeah... after 1000+ posts he didn't learn much it seems ^^
   
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Why were you forced? Did someone hold a gun to your head ?

No one would have thought what a technological blunder Netburst came to be... all products have a chance of disappointing the consumer even if it's just a minor update.

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Had to buy a new motherboard since mine was damaged the other night. Couldn't justify spending more to get Z68 than it cost for a Z77 board.
   
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