Ivy Bridge realease date?

[kens30]

Does anyone know when the z77 and ivy bridge cpu's will be released?Has there been an official launch date been announced that i have missed?
If someone knows anything or can give me a link for the new cpu's being released as i will be upgrading to the new platform around end of April or May.
Any info would be appreciated thanks.

[pokerapar88]

Originally Posted by kens30

Does anyone know when the z77 and ivy bridge cpu's will be released?Has there been an official launch date been announced that i have missed?
If someone knows anything or can give me a link for the new cpu's being released as i will be upgrading to the new platform around end of April or May.
Any info would be appreciated thanks.

Z77 boards are already out my friend. Ivy Bridge is still on the process though, I believe it will be released around april (the first models)

[Veteran]

Ivy bridge could be the fastest socket to be phased out,great if you already own SB Mobo but if your going for an IB mobo i would be cautious.

[pokerapar88]

Originally Posted by Veteran

Ivy bridge could be the fastest socket to be phased out,great if you already own SB Mobo but if your going for an IB mobo i would be cautious.

I agree with the upgrade with a Sandy bridge board, but why is it that you say don't go for an IB mobo?
I'll keep my Z68 and put in a new i7 when they come out

[thatguy91]

If you haven't already got the board and will be getting an Ivy Bridge processor, its absolute lunacy to get a 60 series board unless you get a massive deal on it (like a $200 motherboard for $60 or something along those lines).

Intel want to bring out a new CPU each year, and a new socket every second year. The socket 1150 (cooler compatible with socket 1156/1155) will only last 2 years as well, since post Broadwell they will be going to DDR4. If they decide to go to DDR4 sooner, socket 1150 will only last 1 generation - unlikely. In any case, don't worry about the generational socket thing. In most cases, if you have the need to upgrade the CPU, you have the need to upgrade the motherboard too

What I mean by this is someone with an i5-2500K probably won't upgrade to an i5-3570K (in general), and although the provision is there maximum benefit can only be obtained with a new motherboard based on the Z77/Z75 chipset anyway. Just be thankful that if you buy a CPU cooler now for an Ivy Bridge, you will get a minimum of 3 years use out of it, assuming the DDR4 post Broadwell socket has different mounting holes. Even then, compatible mounting kits may be available.

[head]

I think the release date was around 8 april but they moved it back to 28 april, not 100% sure tho.

[Veteran]

Originally Posted by pokerapar88

I agree with the upgrade with a Sandy bridge board, but why is it that you say don't go for an IB mobo?
I'll keep my Z68 and put in a new i7 when they come out

The reason is because if IB is a smaller version of SB with a slight higher oc and lower power then when SB becomes a dead socket then wont IB become dead at the same time?Its essentially the same architecture,so if its true that haswell is due in maybe early 2013 or even q2 2013 then unless there is more cpus being released for SB,IB then they will both become dead,SB is already a year old or more.
I could be wrong but its worth keeping in mind....they way i understand it IB is just a stepping stone until haswell,abit like the 32x was until the dreamcast came along....hence dissapointment.

[kens30]

Thanks all for your advice.My main system that i will be upgrading is the one on my profile socket 775 I think i have waited long enough for an upgrade and it doesn't bother me if it will be the fastest socket to be phased out or not.For the moment ivy bridge will be more than enough to last me the next 2-3 years as i only use my system for gaming,browsing,and a little photo editing and the support for pci-e 3.0 will future proof me for new gpu's which is the main thing that i upgrade more frequently.Just to let you know my cpu struggles to keep a reasonable frame rate at 3.8ghz on cpu bound games.

[pokerapar88]

Originally Posted by kens30

Thanks all for your advice.My main system that i will be upgrading is the one on my profile socket 775 I think i have waited long enough for an upgrade and it doesn't bother me if it will be the fastest socket to be phased out or not.For the moment ivy bridge will be more than enough to last me the next 2-3 years as i only use my system for gaming,browsing,and a little photo editing and the support for pci-e 3.0 will future proof me for new gpu's which is the main thing that i upgrade more frequently.Just to let you know my cpu struggles to keep a reasonable frame rate at 3.8ghz on cpu bound games.

IB will have at most a 15% higher performance than its predecessor.
And that is @ CPU bound software, not games. If you intend to browse and game and a bit of multitasking, get a Z68 board, an i7 2600K - i5 2500k, OC to 4.3-4.5Ghz and you are set to go for 3 more years. But get a good SSD so you feel the nappiness the SB is capable of.
For gaming you must know that the GPU is the main thing. an i7 2600k + 7970 or a GTX680 would be ideal.

[Agent-A01]

Originally Posted by Veteran

The reason is because if IB is a smaller version of SB with a slight higher oc and lower power then when SB becomes a dead socket then wont IB become dead at the same time?Its essentially the same architecture,so if its true that haswell is due in maybe early 2013 or even q2 2013 then unless there is more cpus being released for SB,IB then they will both become dead,SB is already a year old or more.
I could be wrong but its worth keeping in mind....they way i understand it IB is just a stepping stone until haswell,abit like the 32x was until the dreamcast came along....hence dissapointment.

iirc i read somewhere that the 22nm haswell will be same socket as 1155 but the 14nm haswell which would come out a year~ after 22nm haswell will require socket 1150, but maybe that was a rumor. so there might be life left in the socket, but not sure i havent seen any real hard evidence.

[Veteran]

Originally Posted by Agent-A01

iirc i read somewhere that the 22nm haswell will be same socket as 1155 but the 14nm haswell which would come out a year~ after 22nm haswell will require socket 1150, but maybe that was a rumor. so there might be life left in the socket, but not sure i havent seen any real hard evidence.

If socket 1155 is first gen haswell then what will happen to this socket once the 2nd gen haswell comes out,is it possible that the first gen socket could only last a year?Im still sceptical about IB motherboards regarding there longetivity,im running at 4.4 so i dont need to buy one anyhow.

[thatguy91]

Longevity of the motherboard isn't an issue unless you want to upgrade to a newer CPU architecture. If you want to change to a new CPU architecture, then you need to upgrade the motherboard anyway, so the upgrade issue is actually a non-issue Besides, Haswell will most likely be delayed...

[kens30]

Originally Posted by pokerapar88

IB will have at most a 15% higher performance than its predecessor.
And that is @ CPU bound software, not games. If you intend to browse and game and a bit of multitasking, get a Z68 board, an i7 2600K - i5 2500k, OC to 4.3-4.5Ghz and you are set to go for 3 more years. But get a good SSD so you feel the nappiness the SB is capable of.
For gaming you must know that the GPU is the main thing. an i7 2600k + 7970 or a GTX680 would be ideal.

Prefer to wait one month for ivy bridge lower tdp=less heat + most likely higher OC than sandy at acceptable temps + pci-e 3.0 support.

[Octavean]

Actually, socket LGA1156 was probably one of the shortest supported socket in recent history. It never received CPU updates beyond Lynnfield if I recall. LGA1155 starting with Sandy Bridge and Ending with Ivy Bridge is something of a boon and I see little reason to complain.

Upgrading beyond that doesn’t necessarily matter if the new platform doesn’t yield significant performance increases,….(which remain to be seen). We have a lot of people basically ignoring Sandy Bridge-E Core i7 3960X, 3930K and 3820 / X79 boards because of the price and performance ratio with respect to Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge while there is no guaranty that Intel Haswell will be any better in this respect.

Anyway, what I have heard is that Ivy Bridge Z77 motherboards (and others) will be readily available in early April and desktop Ivy Bridge chips will be available late April. Mobile Ivy Bridge processors have supposedly been belayed even longer.

Personally, if I see a nice Z77 motherboard I like with Intel Thunderbolt support I may buy it with a Core i7 3770K and new video card. If not I might buy just a Core i7 3770, new video card and call it a day,….

[Agent-A01]

Originally Posted by Veteran

If socket 1155 is first gen haswell then what will happen to this socket once the 2nd gen haswell comes out,is it possible that the first gen socket could only last a year?Im still sceptical about IB motherboards regarding there longetivity,im running at 4.4 so i dont need to buy one anyhow.

No no, 1st haswell suposedly uses same socket as SB and IB(1155) according to some rumor i read. I Guess 1155 would see EoL after 2nd gen haswell.but 3 gens of cpus, cant complain about that really. 2nd gen haswell will use 1150. And w/e is after that will use sockey 1150.

Im actually contemplating ivy 3770k and the asus P8Z77 WS Revolution. I dont need it but my current boards pcie layout sucks

[Matt26LFC]

Originally Posted by Agent-A01

No no, 1st haswell suposedly uses same socket as SB and IB(1155) according to some rumor i read. I Guess 1155 would see EoL after 2nd gen haswell.but 3 gens of cpus, cant complain about that really. 2nd gen haswell will use 1150. And w/e is after that will use sockey 1150.

Im actually contemplating ivy 3770k and the asus P8Z77 WS Revolution. I dont need it but my current boards pcie layout sucks

Hmmm not sure about this, if its true it'll be very nice. However Haswell is a brand new Arch and its unlikely they'll be able to keep the same socket because of that, and then suddenly change the layout when the die shrunk version of Haswell arrives seems, at least to me, even less likely.

Just my two cents, please no flaming

[Octavean]

Originally Posted by Matt26LFC

Hmmm not sure about this, if its true it'll be very nice. However Haswell is a brand new Arch and its unlikely they'll be able to keep the same socket because of that, and then suddenly change the layout when the die shrunk version of Haswell arrives seems, at least to me, even less likely.

Just my two cents, please no flaming

I agree,.....

Also from what I have heard Haswell will be LGA1150. I've heard of no such LGA1155 support. Beyond a credible source I wouldn’t put too much stock in such support or even the lack thereof. both reasoning seems to agree on LGA1150 though so LGA1150 seems likely.

[Veteran]

If there is not no 1155 support then IB will become a dead socket also as well as SB,thats the point i was trying to make,not sure if it worth buying an IB motherboard as it could be a dead socket sooner than you think..hence stepping stone.

[Veteran]

Originally Posted by thatguy91

Longevity of the motherboard isn't an issue unless you want to upgrade to a newer CPU architecture. If you want to change to a new CPU architecture, then you need to upgrade the motherboard anyway, so the upgrade issue is actually a non-issue Besides, Haswell will most likely be delayed...

I wish x58 architecture lasted a little longer,it was phased out rather quickly compared to SB.

[Matt26LFC]

Originally Posted by Octavean

I agree,.....

Also from what I have heard Haswell will be LGA1150. I've heard of no such LGA1155 support. Beyond a credible source I wouldn’t put too much stock in such support or even the lack thereof. both reasoning seems to agree on LGA1150 though so LGA1150 seems likely.

Yeah all I've read is socket 1150, not read anything about 1155 support. I just don't see it happening.

Originally Posted by Veteran

If there is not no 1155 support then IB will become a dead socket also as well as SB,thats the point i was trying to make,not sure if it worth buying an IB motherboard as it could be a dead socket sooner than you think..hence stepping stone.

Originally Posted by Veteran

I wish x58 architecture lasted a little longer,it was phased out rather quickly compared to SB.

To be honest I think its something we're going to have to get used to, I think Intel are planning new Arch's every 2 years, so its likely that each new arch will be accompanied by a new socket. So if your worried about socket life then you need to be buying the tick, which if memory serves is the first of the new arch then the tock is its die shrink and other little bit and pieces that come along with that.

Think people we're probably spoiled a little with socket 775 as it seemed, I think, to go on for a while. Whereas newer sockets won't. Bit like maybe Microsoft and Windows, lots of peeps got used to XP being around forever and now some complain that Win7 and now Win8 came/are coming along too quickly. Seems similar to me anyway

[Veteran]

Originally Posted by Matt26LFC

Yeah all I've read is socket 1150, not read anything about 1155 support. I just don't see it happening.





To be honest I think its something we're going to have to get used to, I think Intel are planning new Arch's every 2 years, so its likely that each new arch will be accompanied by a new socket. So if your worried about socket life then you need to be buying the tick, which if memory serves is the first of the new arch then the tock is its die shrink and other little bit and pieces that come along with that.

Think people we're probably spoiled a little with socket 775 as it seemed, I think, to go on for a while. Whereas newer sockets won't. Bit like maybe Microsoft and Windows, lots of peeps got used to XP being around forever and now some complain that Win7 and now Win8 came/are coming along too quickly. Seems similar to me anyway

Yeah i know what you mean regarding Tick and Tock.

Taken from Hardocp.

Architecture advancements will be very little in terms of IPC. Not going to OC any better. I don't see sense in building an IB machine if you have a SB machine. I just built my own SB system, did not see much use in waiting for IB. That said, if you are in an pre-SB upgrade situation, there is no reason to not go IB unless you need LGA2011 memory footprint, or are looking for a long term socket, which LGA1155 is not


This confirms for me exactly what i was saying,i will not be buying IB even though i have a buyer for my current rig,ill wait some more

[Agent-A01]

Originally Posted by Matt26LFC

Hmmm not sure about this, if its true it'll be very nice. However Haswell is a brand new Arch and its unlikely they'll be able to keep the same socket because of that, and then suddenly change the layout when the die shrunk version of Haswell arrives seems, at least to me, even less likely.

Just my two cents, please no flaming

Yeah idk if its true or not just some rumor i read in an article. ive seen zero info about haswell so i have no clue what will turn out.

[GPU]

why does every one in a ib thread think every one has a sb so they offer their crap post lunch opinion.there has not been one E1 stepping review any where on the net.

-or you don't need any thing faster than I have [sb]

Hardcrop does not have a retail ib chip to bench
-nor does he have a released z77 with a bios for M1 stepping.

-sb es could not hit 4.8 either.

ib should be as faster than sb by much as the 680 vs 7970 battle and yet ib gets a thumbs down but the gxt680 is the holy gail of gpu's. sounds like sour grapes to me.

-I passed on sb for the crippled pci-e set up.
ib looks better with a plx 3.0 chip. for now.

will wait for the real benches but for the op to tell other's to get a sb now as ib\z77 won't be better.
either has inside info or are not thinking before they post.

-ib should be faster ,the z77 will be a better mb , get over it.

[---TK---]

get over what? whats your problem bro?

[Veteran]

Originally Posted by GPU

why does every one in a ib thread think every one has a sb so they offer their crap post lunch opinion.there has not been one E1 stepping review any where on the net.

-or you don't need any thing faster than I have [sb]

Hardcrop does not have a retail ib chip to bench
-nor does he have a released z77 with a bios for M1 stepping.

-sb es could not hit 4.8 either.

ib should be as faster than sb by much as the 680 vs 7970 battle and yet ib gets a thumbs down but the gxt680 is the holy gail of gpu's. sounds like sour grapes to me.

-I passed on sb for the crippled pci-e set up.
ib looks better with a plx 3.0 chip. for now.

will wait for the real benches but for the op to tell other's to get a sb now as ib\z77 won't be better.
either has inside info or are not thinking before they post.

-ib should be faster ,the z77 will be a better mb , get over it.

I dont get you tbh,i dont know what your waffling on about.