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Default 03-22-2012, 14:13 | posts: 2,227 | Location: USA

Ordered!

Countdown until I'm complaining that I was too impatient to wait for the 4GB model:

Commencing now...
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:14 | posts: 519 | Location: Darwin, Australia

Thanks for the good review. I have to say im impressed, nvidia have done they're homework and released a great card. Clock for clock would be interesting but then again where nvidia won it was a blowout.

I still reckon nvidia will release the GK110 this year and if amd doesnt have anything up they're sleeve (or whats left of they're sleeve probably more of a burnt singlet) ill be in the mix for an upgrade.

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Default 03-22-2012, 14:14 | posts: 189 | Location: Québec

Gtx 680 is like 500$(US) and the 7970 stills 560$(US) Why didnt they lowered their prices ?
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:15 | posts: 4,206 | Location: Australia

Good review, and future driver releases will really show it shine

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Default 03-22-2012, 14:18 | posts: 3,331 | Location: Nederland

Good news

Arctic Accelero Xtreme III

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AMD Radeon:
  • 7870, 7850
  • 6970, 6950, 6870, 6850, 6790
  • 5870, 5850, 5830
  • 4890, 4870, 4850, 4830
  • 3870, 3850
NVIDIA:
  • 680*, 680, 580, 570, 560Ti, 560 SE, 560, 550Ti, 480, 460 SE, 460
  • 450, 250, 240 (OEM), 150 (OEM)
  • 130 (OEM)
  • 9800 GTX+, 9800 GTX, 9800 GT, 9600 GT, 9600 GSO 512, 9600 GSO, 9500 GT (not LP)
  • 8800 Ultra (G80), 8800 GTX (G80), 8800 GTS 512 (G92), 8800 GTS (G92), 8800 GTS (G80), 8800 GT, 8800 GS (9600GSO)
  • 7900 GTX, 7800 GTX 512, 7800 GTX, 7800 GT
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/detail/ind...sCategory/2182

From this image shown on the Arctic Site i got the feeling there will be a Non-Stacked PCI-E Version of the 680.

* Please ensure your graphic card does not come with a double deck power socket.

   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:18 | posts: 1,762

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Mid ranged card released at high end prices because it performs better than AMD. So in effect it is now high end.
Pretty much this and from Hilberts review:
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GK104 is the name of the 28 nm build chip that is based on Kepler, and dare I say it? It was never intended to be the high-end product. For that NVIDIA would have named it GK110, personally I still think the GK110 will see the light at a later stage in time, likely end of the year.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:18 | posts: 805 | Location: Netherlands

Nice review hilbert, but im going to wait for the real ''high end'' kepler.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:22 | posts: 197 | Location: Quebec, Canada

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Mid ranged card released at high end prices because it performs better than AMD. So in effect it is now high end.
And where's the high end card ?

From what i can read in reviews people expect it by the end of this year. Fall at best. By the end of this year ATI will be readying for new cards.

From what i can see the 680 is a high end product priced at a high end price. It's the best card on the market but it's not "unbeatable" as the 7970 can beat it here and there. If i had to buy a card today and would be willing to spend 500$ i would buy this one. It's an efficient and really good product. But if i was a owner of a 580 (or 7950, 7970, 7870oc) i would definately not upgrade and would wait.

But i'm not willing to pay 500$. I'm willing to pay 250-300$ CAD (like i did for my current card). And if this is really the mid range offering by nVidia then i'm really disappointed cause it means neither ATI nor nVidia will offer something interesting and worthy of an upgrade in this particular price range for this year.

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Default 03-22-2012, 14:23 | posts: 6,559

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Pretty much this and from Hilberts review:
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GK104 is the name of the 28 nm build chip that is based on Kepler, and dare I say it? It was never intended to be the high-end product. For that NVIDIA would have named it GK110, personally I still think the GK110 will see the light at a later stage in time, likely end of the year.
That's odd, because the 480 was GF100 and the 580 was GF110.

So...Kinda telling me...It's a different generation. This card, this GTX 680, given its naming schemes, both of them, very clearly is not a "mid-range" card. If anyone bothers to look at the previous generation, you can obviously see, that the 5xx series, the second Fermi iteration, was launched as GF110.

Exactly like they're going to do now. Sometime later in the year, or next year, they'll launch the 780, GF110, just like they did with Fermi.
   
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Cool 03-22-2012, 14:27 | posts: 1,272 | Location: Germany

NICE REVIEW HILBERT, finally the cards reviewed are shown also naked .

Back to topix: Nice card and very well done Nvidia. The performance is ON and the power numbers are very good.

Now I want 7970 at <300 EUR so I can buy 2 of them .
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:28 | posts: 4,881 | Location: South Dakota

Surprised by the power consumption on load (though AMD wins idle), even though I don't see consistent numbers across reviews. It does trade wins with AMD on a few games, but overall it does a good job. The price is about right if you ask me, I felt the 7970 was only a 400-450 card, looks as though it is finally put in the position where it should have launched at.

Overall I would purchase this card in a blind test due to the speed/power consumption, however, I personally wouldn't buy Nvidia because of their business practices.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:33 | posts: 1,762

Really doesn't bother me how people take it, I'm assuming it is because of the GK/GPU roadmaps, the GK104 title, the 256-bit memory interface and the comment at the end of the article. Let's just pretend I say high-end and move on.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:33 | posts: 8,183 | Location: UK

Decent card, nice to see Nvidia back, and the competition
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:38 | posts: 4,881 | Location: South Dakota



From what I've heard, its rumored to not be as good at compute (the GK110 will do that) as the 7970. So basically AMD/Nvidia switched places.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:40 | posts: 2,269 | Location: Netherlands

It's often performing even slightly better than I expected, except for the silly memory bus bottleneck in some demanding games which indicate future performance as well (Crysis 2007/Metro from 2010 already!!!). I'm amazed how it often holds up against the 7970 in triple monitor setups in some of the other reviews out there.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:41 | posts: 371 | Location: N/A

Even better then i thought it would be. Time to sell my 580's and buy one/two of these?

Nice review!
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:43 | posts: 197 | Location: Quebec, Canada

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Decent card, nice to see Nvidia back, and the competition
Yeah hope price will go down soon. We just need a 670 and a mid range (oups did i say that?) 660 now and the price war can begin.

Right now we have previous generation +10%-20% for the same price as we had last year. Whoohooo ... i mean eh!

Those 7950 and 7870oced price need to go down so i can buy a 580 perf level card for 300$ CAD XD.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:44 | posts: 5,355

I will not touch this card unless it falls to $300. If it doesnt, I'll wait till next years maxwell. Tired of upgrading GPUs on a yearly basis.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:45 | posts: 2,253 | Location: Manchester, UK

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I hate the way they do this. If this was meant to be the mid range product then why not just release it as such.

Releasing a better performing high end product soon after would completely scare AMD and get a lot of their customers over to the mid range parts also... Delaying the high end and naming this in it's place is just illogical, except of course they're charging £450 for a so called "mid range" part.
Simple, they didn't have to because they saw it was faster that the other sides high end in most games.

Why release your midrange card as midrange when you can just hold off on the high end card and call the midrange one high end. They're after money and as much as i hate the fact they're doing it, it's very good business sence.

Edit.
Now i'm just waiting for Scan to do what they did with the GTX480 after the GTX580 came out, sell them for under £200 (my 480 cost £185 new ).

PS.
Hilbert, what's the mounting like on the card?, does it look likely to support coolers that fit the 480/580 mountings (i really love my Shaman cooler).

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Default 03-22-2012, 14:49 | posts: 11,396 | Location: England

Great review and well done Nvidia.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:54 | posts: 2,901 | Location: Philippines

Yeah, compute performance seems not as good, as if it was positioned for a midrange card compute performance, and high end range graphics performance.

also,

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TXAA will also get supported in GeForce series 400 and 500 products.
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Default 03-22-2012, 15:00 | posts: 197 | Location: Quebec, Canada

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I will not touch this card unless it falls to $300. If it doesnt, I'll wait till next years maxwell. Tired of upgrading GPUs on a yearly basis.
Probably what i'm gonna do.

I'll wait for current high end products that are not high end but priced as high end but are in fact mid range because the high end is not mid range for the price of high end and the naming scheme of mid range to go down in price and reach the 300$ level.

I would like better perf in BF 3 at 1980 but well looks like i'll need to wait 2013.

The 7850 perf is about the same as my current card for the same price i paid a while ago. The 7870oced and 7950 are way too expensive for what they bring. And looking at the 680 the same should be true for the upcoming 670 and 660.

Anyway BF3 is the only game i play giving a hard time to my 6950 so i can live with that.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 15:01 | posts: 572 | Location: Toronto

This is exactly the kind of performance I was first expecting from the 7970's... Im in love! I think im gonna sell my 6970's and go for this!
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 15:01 | posts: 1,601 | Location: BBQ Capital of the World

great and thorough review as always, looks great but i think i'll be waiting for a 110 before i really mess around with retooling the system. plus i have to wait a while for the water-cooling kits, etc come out. Thanks for putting in the time.

one minor comment regarding the graphs that the color, and placement between the 7970 and the 680 was not consistent throughout, but that's just my inner perfectionist coming out. (pgs 16/18 have the 7970 as the lighter blue instead of the 680.)

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Default 03-22-2012, 15:02 | posts: 14,480 | Location: Glasgow

Doesn’t really matter what it was supposed to be when they started, things clearly improved, as there is no way Nvidia would have sold a card with this sort of performance for $300.

Maybe efficiency is a priority to Nvidia right now, so are waiting until they can get GK110 to match GK104, or maybe they just want to be able to release a $500 and $700 GPU in the same year.

It’s obvious they could of done better if they wanted and by the looks of it so could AMD, but with the way things are with 28nm right now I don’t think there would be any stock if they did.

Looking forward to the SLI reviews for these though.
   
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