AMD Catalyst 12.x (8.950.5 February 24) AMD Official BETA - Page 3

GhostXL · 03-20-2012, 16:39 | posts: 4,907 | Location: PA, USA

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Originally Posted by Del_Boy

ok i couldn't wait and i tried them, sorry guys skyrim crossfire not fixed game flickers and flashes all over the place.

Must be a 6 series thing, I get no flicker in Skyrim with Crossfire.

But I see other 6 series users reporting no flicker. I'm sure its something on your end.

Shayne · 03-20-2012, 16:43 | posts: 124 | Location: Northern Canada

Skyrim in game AA working again, no flashing (even esc menu) and cross fire runs 60 fps stable no problem. No caps yet installed.

Thanks Asder00 for the nice release.

aminfri · 03-20-2012, 16:48 | posts: 92 | Location: South Africa

loads of artifacts and strange anomalies with assassin's creed brotherhood. rolling back

no skyrim AA artifacts though.

ipredator · 03-20-2012, 17:29 | posts: 494

Just installed, so I'm on the bad luck side too. No cure to the face/menu flickering in Skyrim.

Del_Boy · 03-20-2012, 20:28 | posts: 445 | Location: UK

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Originally Posted by GhostXL

Must be a 6 series thing, I get no flicker in Skyrim with Crossfire.

But I see other 6 series users reporting no flicker. I'm sure its something on your end.

No, ive tried everything, all graphics settings possible also a reinstall of windows, nothing works. There are still many people who have this problem, i don't just have the flashing face and menu, the whole game is FOBAR'ed check this > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsH_Ei-HYuM, i think it could be a refresh rate problem, i have a acer 24" lcd monitor but it uses the older RGB thingy and i have to use a dvi adapter thingy. has this got anything to do with it ?

ipredator · 03-20-2012, 20:39 | posts: 494

lol I didn't read that post properly, otherwise I'd have replied earlier. Of course its nothing on our end, the face/menu flickering was introduced in the 11.11 patch. 11.10 still provides good bugless cfx scaling for Skyrim, but you can't play any other new game well with it. So we're desperatly waiting for AMD to get us some fix for their mess after 11.11+.

DeFade · 03-20-2012, 20:47 | posts: 80 | Location: Olsztyn, Poland

These work nicely for me and my single 6870. Perform as good as 8.96 Feb28 in BF3 with better IQ if my eyes aren't deceiving me.

The Mac · 03-20-2012, 21:01 | posts: 1,388 | Location: USA

ive noticed this as well, LOD in ME2 seems much sharper...

Matas · 03-20-2012, 21:29 | posts: 151 | Location: Lithuania (Europe)

Idle clocks and OCing through AB working fine?

ipredator · 03-20-2012, 21:43 | posts: 494

Trixx works for me, so AB should be fine too.

GhostXL · *Last edited by GhostXL; 03-20-2012 at 21:53.*

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Originally Posted by Del_Boy

No, ive tried everything, all graphics settings possible also a reinstall of windows, nothing works. There are still many people who have this problem, i don't just have the flashing face and menu, the whole game is FOBAR'ed check this > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsH_Ei-HYuM, i think it could be a refresh rate problem, i have a acer 24" lcd monitor but it uses the older RGB thingy and i have to use a dvi adapter thingy. has this got anything to do with it ?

That's sorta what I meant by on your end, it could be compatibility issues.

I run a 27" Acer 12,000,000:1 2 ms LED monitor, but Skyrim is perfectly fine.

It's hard to say, as this driver fixed the issue for many 6 series users. I know it runs perfect on my 7970's.

So it seems to be a 6 series crossfire issue for sure.

But I'd just like to point out too, it seems most not all, but most of the issues come from mobile users.

Aioras · 03-20-2012, 22:16 | posts: 569 | Location: Spain

It is an issue for 5 series crossfire too

Shayne · 03-20-2012, 22:49 | posts: 124 | Location: Northern Canada

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Originally Posted by ipredator

Just installed, so I'm on the bad luck side too. No cure to the face/menu flickering in Skyrim.

Face flicker is gone here and so is the menu's yellow flickering screen from hell. This driver is working perfectly and the game looks simply gorgeous. As far as the whole game flickering maybe try reseating your card or get a new one? No driver has caused that type of problem .... with my series anyway.

No issue at all with 5000 series crossfire working prefect.

Regards

MadelineX · 03-20-2012, 22:57 | posts: 256 | Location: Seattle, WA

Strange about skyrim flicker. I don't have it whatsoever. No menu issues, or anything apparent.

I run everything on ultra that can be set that way. I have .ini tweaks in effect and ENB series. That's all I can think of that may be different. But none of those things should improve flickering or texture absences.

I do though, have almost all custom textures and use radeon pro as a launcher with forced Triple buffer. But again, I can't imagine why those things would make a difference.

GhostXL · 03-20-2012, 23:11 | posts: 4,907 | Location: PA, USA

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Originally Posted by MadelineX

Strange about skyrim flicker. I don't have it whatsoever. No menu issues, or anything apparent.

I run everything on ultra that can be set that way. I have .ini tweaks in effect and ENB series. That's all I can think of that may be different. But none of those things should improve flickering or texture absences.

I do though, have almost all custom textures and use radeon pro as a launcher with forced Triple buffer. But again, I can't imagine why those things would make a difference.

Well the official textures for Skyrim are kinda crap and rushed. The textures from the mod community are much more clean and detailed.

But, yeah I agree. I don't get why others experience the issue.

Del_Boy · 03-20-2012, 23:21 | posts: 445 | Location: UK

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Originally Posted by GhostXL

That's sorta what I meant by on your end, it could be compatibility issues.

I run a 27" Acer 12,000,000:1 2 ms LED monitor, but Skyrim is perfectly fine.

It's hard to say, as this driver fixed the issue for many 6 series users. I know it runs perfect on my 7970's.

So it seems to be a 6 series crossfire issue for sure.

But I'd just like to point out too, it seems most not all, but most of the issues come from mobile users.

It must be drivers because when i roll back to 11.11 skyrim is fine but other games run crap. my video card is a duel gpu board (not two 6870's) so its pushing two 6870 gpu's through one pci express socket, its here > http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...s-card-review/
i'm wondering if AMD aren't supporting these properly, wouldn't surprise me.

|ALE| · 03-20-2012, 23:42 | posts: 187

tried this with bf3. normally i play everything ultra, fullhd, msaa4x, post AA high, no motion blur, 60fps except some times with zoom on big maps.

now i tried same settings, lowering msaa to 2x and enabling MLAA (i have a cross of 6950 unlocked to full spec 6970).

IQ drammatically goes up and the smoothness seems to be higher! great driver set

slickric21 · 03-21-2012, 00:01 | posts: 1,680 | Location: U.K

Great drivers for me on single 7970.

Adaptive and Supersample MSAA modes now work for DX10 & 11.
Just confirmed this in BF3

(note ingame MSAA needs to be set on for it to work afaik)

'Adaptive' really cleans up all the shimmering fences and wires

Not seen to much of on fps hit yet.

'Supersample' does aswell but hits fps badly of course.

Not tried the new MLAA 2.0 yet, because im happy with ingame MSAA with Adaptive enabled in drivers, then a dose of SMAA Ultra thrown in for good measure.
Epic IQ.

Edit:
Just did another test - disabled SMAA and enabled driver MLAA. Seemed to work ok actually, no blurring and IQ was nice. Not sure it was as good as SMAA but there was negligible performance hit if any (SMAA takes 3-4fps for comparison)
Will need to test more and try to get some screenies but looks like the driver MLAA may finally be worthwhile !!!!!!

ipredator · 03-21-2012, 00:21 | posts: 494

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Originally Posted by Del_Boy

It must be drivers because when i roll back to 11.11 skyrim is fine but other games run crap. my video card is a duel gpu board (not two 6870's) so its pushing two 6870 gpu's through one pci express socket, its here > http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...s-card-review/
i'm wondering if AMD aren't supporting these properly, wouldn't surprise me.

I second that. 11.10 and 11.11 non-*b-*c did not have that face/menu flickering. My external display (since I'm not playing on my laptop screen) is a LG Cinema 3D Monitor, but that should not be the issue since its also flickering if I actually am playing on my laptop screen. As Del_Boy I tried every possible fix, tweaks, disabling's, using .dll's from older drivers and putting them into Skyrim's dir, Crossfire option but so far we haven't come to a good end.
It's nice to hear that the flickering is gone now for some 6k and 5k users, indicating that AMD's working on it, but they didn't fix it entirely yet.
Its not on "our end" since we surely know how to do a proper fresh install.

cesaroco · *Last edited by cesaroco; 03-21-2012 at 00:39.*

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Originally Posted by slickric21

Great drivers for me on single 7970.

Adaptive and Supersample MSAA modes now work for DX10 & 11.
Just confirmed this in BF3

(note ingame MSAA needs to be set on for it to work afaik)

'Adaptive' really cleans up all the shimmering fences and wires

Not seen to much of on fps hit yet.

'Supersample' does aswell but hits fps badly of course.

Not tried the new MLAA 2.0 yet, because im happy with ingame MSAA with Adaptive enabled in drivers, then a dose of SMAA Ultra thrown in for good measure.
Epic IQ.

Edit:
Just did another test - disabled SMAA and enabled driver MLAA. Seemed to work ok actually, no blurring and IQ was nice. Not sure it was as good as SMAA but there was negligible performance hit if any (SMAA takes 3-4fps for comparison)
Will need to test more and try to get some screenies but looks like the driver MLAA may finally be worthwhile !!!!!!

For MLAA you use ingame AA ? or MLAA alone ?

GhostXL · 03-21-2012, 00:56 | posts: 4,907 | Location: PA, USA

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Originally Posted by Del_Boy

It must be drivers because when i roll back to 11.11 skyrim is fine but other games run crap. my video card is a duel gpu board (not two 6870's) so its pushing two 6870 gpu's through one pci express socket, its here > http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...s-card-review/
i'm wondering if AMD aren't supporting these properly, wouldn't surprise me.

I don't believe the HD 6870 X2 was an AMD/ATI thing anyway. I thought that was something their partners cooked up?

Maybe that is the problem also.

ipredator · 03-21-2012, 01:04 | posts: 494

@Del_Boy
Astounding news
I messed around with CCC settings and found out that if you force AA 16x!!! the flickering disappears. But with that setting, the FPS drop to ~45 which I get with 1 card and standard AA. Not a permanent fix, but something to work on. Maybe you can help me mess around, since I have to sleep a bit

DarthElvis · 03-21-2012, 01:49 | posts: 171

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Originally Posted by The Mac

AA i can understand to some extent, as the 7900 is more powerful, and it may bog down the 6900...

Irrelevant. Xfired 6970's are more powerful than any 7900. Maybe you can enable the goodies with a hack, like you had to do with the 5800 in order to get MLAA back when the 6x00 series was released.

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Originally Posted by GhostXL

If you just blindly claim things like this, and let anger rise to spell our your comments, you won't understand.

Understand what? Dude may have anger issues, but he's right. 6900 users (especialy xfire users) paid a lot of money for their cards. ATI holding out because of software is BS(I remember reading something, somewhere about this junk being enabled for previous gen later on - so there is hope). It's just like Creative behaves. If thats the case, then AMD is truly dead.

Thalyn · 03-21-2012, 05:01 | posts: 72

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Originally Posted by cesaroco

For MLAA you use ingame AA ? or MLAA alone ?

MLAA works independant of any in-game AA settings. It's applied after-the-fact, which is why it can also work on deferred rendering (eg GTA-IV).

However my experience suggests it's still a good idea to enable at least 2x MSAA at the same time as MLAA, when possible. I've no idea why but it seems to help clean up text - even with MLAA 2.

The Mac · 03-21-2012, 05:40 | posts: 1,388 | Location: USA

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Originally Posted by DarthElvis

Irrelevant. Xfired 6970's are more powerful than any 7900. Maybe you can enable the goodies with a hack, like you had to do with the 5800 in order to get MLAA back when the 6x00 series was released.
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hardly irrelevant, xfire is niche...

mainstream, and most of their profit, is mid boards...

if it cant perform, there is no advantage to enabling it and having them perform poorly...