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Default 03-20-2012, 00:18 | posts: 2,174 | Location: Philippines

I think BS (no pun intended too hehe) did great last year while he was still in Lotus. And although Rubens is no doubt more experienced, he's no longer as motivated as the younger drivers.

Although i agree with you, I'd take KK instead of BS.
   
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Default 03-20-2012, 00:46 | posts: 26,090 | Location: Hampshire UK

lol...

right... I think Rubens would still be motivated as ever. for different reasons, but nevertheless. he would drive out of his skin to prove that he still belongs in F1. something maybe massa should try? I mean it's a trend now to sack older drivers (trulli, barichello, massa after this season) but out of all of these, barichello clearly wanted to stay in F1 and fight for his place. so motivation wasn't the issue, maybe a lack of speed a little bit, but then again he brings tons of experience to a team so yeah, I'd still have him over Senna.

Don't think Kobayashi was available tbh, it was just an example. but if I was rich enough to sink 100 million into an F1 season, I would want to make sure that I get some decent drivers when I finally have a decent car. Kobayashi is a top driver, he's nuts, but boy he has skill. Maybe not a F1 champion material, I still can't see him beating Alonso/Vettel/Raikkonen in the same car, but the boy is fast! What I'm trying to say is that there's better drivers out there than Senna and Maldonado. I mean fair play, if they're only there because they bring money, then Frank might as well come out and say that he doesn't really care anymore and that they're there because they bring sponsors. Just don't tell people that this is the best 2 drivers you can have Frank, because that's BS!!! (no ****ing pun!)
   
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Default 03-21-2012, 02:41 | posts: 4,607 | Location: Brisbane, Australia

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lol...

right... I think Rubens would still be motivated as ever. for different reasons, but nevertheless. he would drive out of his skin to prove that he still belongs in F1. something maybe massa should try? I mean it's a trend now to sack older drivers (trulli, barichello, massa after this season) but out of all of these, barichello clearly wanted to stay in F1 and fight for his place. so motivation wasn't the issue, maybe a lack of speed a little bit, but then again he brings tons of experience to a team so yeah, I'd still have him over Senna.

Don't think Kobayashi was available tbh, it was just an example. but if I was rich enough to sink 100 million into an F1 season, I would want to make sure that I get some decent drivers when I finally have a decent car. Kobayashi is a top driver, he's nuts, but boy he has skill. Maybe not a F1 champion material, I still can't see him beating Alonso/Vettel/Raikkonen in the same car, but the boy is fast! What I'm trying to say is that there's better drivers out there than Senna and Maldonado. I mean fair play, if they're only there because they bring money, then Frank might as well come out and say that he doesn't really care anymore and that they're there because they bring sponsors. Just don't tell people that this is the best 2 drivers you can have Frank, because that's BS!!! (no ****ing pun!)
eclap I'm not sure you understand how dire the situation at Williams was. These are the best drivers Williams can afford because they can't afford to pay drivers. In fact they can't even afford to let drivers drive for free. Maldonado is reported to be bringing in upwards of $40 million into the team through sponsorship and Senna is bringing $20 million plus. That is a huge chunk of Williams' operational budget.

Williams are try to rebuild infrastructure and get the business side of the team in good working order. After that the technical side has to be expanded and cemented. Only after all the fundamental bases are complete will they ever splash out for more expensive talent. This all fits in with Williams' philosophy about the driver just being another employee of the team. Williams' have never gone out to build a team around a driver.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 13:18 | posts: 10,817 | Location: Finland

Malaysia

   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:06 | posts: 789 | Location: South Africa

Maybe we will see some Schumi magic with the rain.
Would love for him to win one more title.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:09 | posts: 26,090 | Location: Hampshire UK

Schumi was never great in the wet. well, he was, when the car was head and shoulders ahead of competition. Other than that, no.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:52 | posts: 2,174 | Location: Philippines

should play pretty well for JB I suppose...
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 14:55 | posts: 789 | Location: South Africa

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Schumi was never great in the wet. well, he was, when the car was head and shoulders ahead of competition. Other than that, no.
Not true bro. You forget the time he drove the whale of **** ferrari when he started racing with them. People couldn't believe what time he put in.

I'm also seriously doubting your F1 knowledge as most people call him the "rainmeister". You don't just get that for having a good car.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 15:12 | posts: 10,817 | Location: Finland

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Schumi was never great in the wet. well, he was, when the car was head and shoulders ahead of competition. Other than that, no.
I don't agree. He was great, for example, in Montreal when it was wet last year. He's always been great wet driver.
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 15:37 | posts: 2,174 | Location: Philippines

Ayrton, Schumi and Jenson >> Rainmeisters?
   
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Default 03-22-2012, 18:47 | posts: 13,646 | Location: Devon, In A Little Town.

Jenson as a rainmaster?

Debatable.

MSC/Senna/BAR are the first that come to mind.


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Default 03-23-2012, 18:57 | posts: 2,207 | Location: Finland

FP2 results:



and not very good news for Kimi:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98302

"Kimi Raikkonen is to lose five places on the grid for the Malaysian Grand Prix after a gearbox change following the second free practice."
   
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Default 03-23-2012, 19:24 | posts: 26,090 | Location: Hampshire UK

His luck. He's the most unlucky f1 driver out there. Oh well, he should still finish in top 6. The man is a God!
   
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Default 03-23-2012, 22:33 | posts: 371 | Location: N/A

Jenson Button, Michael Schumacher, Sebastian Vettel. (Quali. Top 3)

The Race itself, Jenson Button will probally take it again, I think Schumacher will come out strong in this one. The Mercedes car is perfect for this kind of track.
   
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Default 03-23-2012, 22:45 | posts: 26,090 | Location: Hampshire UK

wow, hold on, you think Button will be in top 3 qually? but no hamilton? muhahahaa... Button and Hamilton in top 4, with at least one red bull. Mercedes is not gonna come nowhere near McLaren pace. if anything they'll have to watch their backs.

About Mercedes being perfect for this track, don't get fooled, it still has a lot of sweepy high speed stuff. and on the straights it's only as fast as Lotus and McLaren, not faster. so I wouldn't expect much from them this weekend. I can see one Mercedes finishing in top 6, but it's more likely to be Rosberg (he's clearly the faster driver out of the 2).
   
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Default 03-23-2012, 23:37 | posts: 371 | Location: N/A

Eclap, It's just a wild guess. Dont take it too fullheartly, overall. McLaren is indeed fast, but Mercedes is fast aswell. It depends somewhat on the driver quality in the last stretch.

Overall, I feel like Button is really strong this year. Time will tell tho.
   
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Default 03-23-2012, 23:57 | posts: 26,090 | Location: Hampshire UK

I'm not taking it to the heart. but don't forget what Mercedes did last week. fast in practice but when the chips were down (qually) they were nowhere to be seen. I'm expecting more of the same this week. McLaren clearly have an edge in getting the tires work in the first hot lap when they give the most grip. after that one lap red bull is not that far off, really. still, this means clear McLaren dominance in qually. I'm expecting Vettel to be 3rd and my wild guess is Kimi 4th.
   
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Default 03-24-2012, 08:52 | posts: 371 | Location: N/A

Kimi 1st so far, Impressive!

Edit1:

End of Q2.. Now:

1. Kimi Räikkönen
2. Jenson Button
3. Nico Rosberg
4. Michael Schumacher

Go Kimi!

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Q3 Started.. HOLD IT KIMI!

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Default 03-24-2012, 10:06 | posts: 2,174 | Location: Philippines

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01. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m36.219s + 0.149
02. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m36.368s + 0.172
03. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m36.391s + 0.242
04. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m36.461s + 0.415
05. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m36.461s + 0.439
06. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m36.634s + 0.445
07. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m36.658s + 1.347
08. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m36.664s + 1.479
09. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m37.566s + 0.242
10. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m37.698s + 1.370
11. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m37.589s + 0.874
12. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m37.731s + 1.016
13. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m37.841s + 1.126
14. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m37.877s + 1.162
15. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m37.883s + 1.168
16. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m37.890s + 1.175
17. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m38.069s + 1.354
18. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m39.077s + 1.905
19. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m39.306s + 2.134
20. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m39.567s + 2.395
21. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m40.903s + 3.731
22. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m41.250s + 4.078
23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m42.914s + 5.742BR>24. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m43.655s + 6.483

SOURCE: http://www.planetf1.com/grand-prix/malaysia/reports


another mclaren 1-2, very good quali for schumi and kimi too! this season is looking to be the closest!
   
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Default 03-24-2012, 10:14 | posts: 26,090 | Location: Hampshire UK

Let's not forget that Kimi is getting a 5 place penalty. So he'll be starting from 10th. Still, good quali, surprised with Mercedes pace, didn't expect them in top 3 but they do eat up their tires fast so I'm not expecting much from them in the race. Now for gp2
   
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Default 03-24-2012, 10:21 | posts: 2,174 | Location: Philippines

yeah.. he will again be racing up the field, just like last week. but at least it's not from 17th! very unfortunate, a penalty and I read they also lost their hospitality unit. damn i'm excited for tom
   
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eclap: I were close!
   
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rough start for SV? MW is again faster than him on quali...
   
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eclap: I were close!
Not as close as me
   
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Not as close as me
Perhaps! Though, Schumacher
   
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