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Default 02-12-2012, 19:40 | posts: 16,491 | Location: US East Coast

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wait till the consumer preview on feb 29, then he can try it out for himself. most would rather complain though, gotta have something to hate on
Most of those hating on Windows8, have only seen screenshots and read parts of some of the articles posted. They haven't actually tried it.
   
 
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Default 02-12-2012, 19:50 | posts: 3,719 | Location: Searching for more light...

^ Agreed.

I can't say I was a "hater" before I tried it - because I had no experience WITH it. But, from the screenshots and what others were saying about it, it was easy to be skeptical about the ease-of-use claims that Microsoft was pushing.

After installing it on a laptop, I'm all for it. All of the changes are MUCH needed changes. You think it was a big benefit going from XP to 7? Well, Windows 8 is that next *revolutionary* step. (revolutionary instead of evolutionary because everything they've done isn't just an evolution on an idea)

I still don't care for the Start GUI itself (Metro), but in time, all those flat two-dimensional buttons will become rounded and skinable and look more individualized to the person that's using it...much like how we can customize our current desktops.

I've yet to plug this laptop into this 24" touch screen monitor, but I think I'll clear off a couple hours today to play with it and really give this Metro thing a good chance. As mentioned, I can already see the benefit in it and what they're trying to do, I've just yet to actually experience it.


So, I absolutely second sykozis' post in that everyone should just give it a shot. You don't have to, but it's important to recognize that if you don't, you'll be left behind just like everyone that refused to leave XP.


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Default 02-12-2012, 20:34 | posts: 8,782 | Location: Indiana

the real problem for typical net readers is all the FUD people keep spreading. it was done to quite an extent with Vista as well...for instance, some believed it had DRM that kept them from pirating content or some such.

Now there is a lot of repeat "does not work with mouse and kb" type of complaints as well as not being able to change start screen colors. Hopefully the consumer preview will at least provide more accurate previews from posters.

i highly recommend Paul Thurot's http://www.winsupersite.com/
he is very up to date on MS stuff with inside sources and provides a more accurate picture.
   
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Default 02-12-2012, 20:48 | posts: 5,839 | Location: Tacoma, Washington

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the real problem for typical net readers is all the FUD people keep spreading. it was done to quite an extent with Vista as well...for instance, some believed it had DRM that kept them from pirating content or some such.

Now there is a lot of repeat "does not work with mouse and kb" type of complaints as well as not being able to change start screen colors. Hopefully the consumer preview will at least provide more accurate previews from posters.

i highly recommend Paul Thurot's http://www.winsupersite.com/
he is very up to date on MS stuff with inside sources and provides a more accurate picture.
One thing his article about the start button fails to recognize, your everyday, "Average Joe" doesn't know about the function of that button on their keyboards. I'm sorry but there are flaws in his logic.
   
 
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Default 02-12-2012, 22:49 | posts: 16,491 | Location: US East Coast

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the real problem for typical net readers is all the FUD people keep spreading. it was done to quite an extent with Vista as well...for instance, some believed it had DRM that kept them from pirating content or some such.

Now there is a lot of repeat "does not work with mouse and kb" type of complaints as well as not being able to change start screen colors. Hopefully the consumer preview will at least provide more accurate previews from posters.

i highly recommend Paul Thurot's http://www.winsupersite.com/
he is very up to date on MS stuff with inside sources and provides a more accurate picture.
Paul Thurrot is really not better. During beta testing of Vista, he claimed that it wouldn't run on a Pentium4 3ghz with 2GB of ram and integrated graphics. However, I had it running on a Pentium4 2.4ghz with 1.5gb of ram and integrated graphics just fine. In fact, he's wrong again...

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There's been a lot of silliness and angst about Windows 8 supposedly dropping the Start button, the first time this central user interface has been absent from Windows since its debut in 1995. There's just one problem: The Start button isn't going anywhere. In fact, it's being made more prominent than ever in Windows 8.
MS has said the "Start Button" is gone....and in fact, it is gone. Instead, you have a "Start" screen. Of course, Paul Thurrot has to state that the devs from MS are wrong....
   
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Default 02-13-2012, 10:19 | posts: 769 | Location: Finland

Windows 8 rules. I had it installed on my Seabrick HDD along with my Win7 installation, which subsequently decided to lock its SATA-port. Found an older drive in a closet, installed Windows 8 on it and I've never even thought of re-installing Win7 again.

I just have an odd bug with the start screen, whenever I move my mouse to the left side of the screen, the computer freezes for 10 or so seconds. I'm thinking it could be caused by the graphics drivers? Otherwise, the developer preview works like a charm, it's just so much faster than Win7 ever was.
   
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Default 02-29-2012, 13:20 | posts: 253

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CES 2012: Windows 8 Beta In Late February
So guys, any news?
   
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Default 02-29-2012, 13:22 | posts: 4,383 | Location: Europe

2 hours DL
   
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Default 02-29-2012, 13:43 | posts: 3,088

So windows 8 public beta is out ?
I'm thinking off running it as only os on my main rig again so i can get a 100% bug free windows 8 on release like last time with windows 7
   
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Default 02-29-2012, 14:55 | posts: 4,383 | Location: Europe

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516

   
 
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Default 02-29-2012, 15:05 | posts: 3,713

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Respect.
   
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Default 02-29-2012, 21:08 | posts: 1,858

How do I get the Start Menu?
   
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Default 02-29-2012, 21:23 | posts: 1,949 | Location: Texas

Go to the bottom left hand corner of you monitor with your mouse.
   
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Default 02-29-2012, 21:25 | posts: 1,858

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Go to the bottom left hand corner of you monitor with your mouse.
I mean the Start Menu button on the taskbar.

I want to get rid of this Metro interface and use the traditional Start Menu.
   
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Default 03-01-2012, 00:44 | posts: 16,491 | Location: US East Coast

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I mean the Start Menu button on the taskbar.

I want to get rid of this Metro interface and use the traditional Start Menu.
Go here: http://www.mstechpages.com/2011/09/1...loper-preview/

Follow the instructions.
   
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Default 03-01-2012, 01:13 | posts: 1,230 | Location: uk sheffield

put it on had it on for a few hours strange bf3 looked amazinggggg but was way to much work makeing it from what win8 is to what i want it to be so back to win 7

win 8 is amazing fast looks good but way to much work to make it as good as win7
   
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Did not work, even after creating the RPEnabled DWORD, which is missing.
   
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Default 03-01-2012, 01:41 | posts: 14,812 | Location: Glasgow

Quickly tried it out before it gets too late, and don't feel as "huh, where is...." as i expected.

Much quicker and snappier than W7, surprisingly so, just takes me a while to make it function how i'm used to.

Unlike how I've treated every OS in the past, i'm not going to take the easy route and give in, will leave this as my day to day PC for a few months if possible, and change very little until I get used to everything, then decide if I like it or not.
   
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Default 03-01-2012, 01:52 | posts: 1,019

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Most of those hating on Windows8, have only seen screenshots and read parts of some of the articles posted. They haven't actually tried it.
I'm trying it right now and I hate it. Sure it's faster... but the damn Metro UI is making navigating a ****ing challenge.

Why do I need to move my cursor into corners and ****?
   
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Default 03-01-2012, 01:59 | posts: 1,858

Regardless of how well Microsoft tweaked Windows 7 to make Windows 8, if the Metro UI is the only option, I will not buy it.
   
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Default 03-01-2012, 02:09 | posts: 8,782 | Location: Indiana

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Unlike how I've treated every OS in the past, i'm not going to take the easy route and give in, will leave this as my day to day PC for a few months if possible, and change very little until I get used to everything, then decide if I like it or not.
good post. best way for everyone to do it. Its best to treat it as one would when going to Linux or Mac for the first time...that is, as a new OS.

i find it refreshing to break old habits. I actually plan to break my dependance on some 3rd party stuff, maybe even try Bing for a while instead of Google. For a while now i've been trying to use windows in general as if i were new to computers and not all geeked out with being picky or tweaking things to death..etc. I use search everytime and stopped browsing folders, i use movie maker instead of 3rd party...etc and took some adjustments and acceptance of fewer formats but i'm actually less aggrevated and have fewer quirks and reboots than i ever have before.
   
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Default 03-01-2012, 02:37 | posts: 16,491 | Location: US East Coast

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Quickly tried it out before it gets too late, and don't feel as "huh, where is...." as i expected.

Much quicker and snappier than W7, surprisingly so, just takes me a while to make it function how i'm used to.

Unlike how I've treated every OS in the past, i'm not going to take the easy route and give in, will leave this as my day to day PC for a few months if possible, and change very little until I get used to everything, then decide if I like it or not.
It really doesn't take long to get used to it. Some on this forum though, fall considerably short of the "enthusiast" they claim to be. I wanted like hell to hate Metro, but after reading a post from Denial (that I think I borrowed from for a post in this thread), I reinstalled Win8. I picked up my cellphone (WP7) and set about to "experience" Win8 all over again. I've found, it's no where near as bad as so many on this forum make it out to be. They're just too close-minded and refuse to accept change. Their loss. Once you learn where things are and how to get to them quickly, it's actually rather enjoyable to use. Of course, it requires keeping an open mind...
   
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Default 03-01-2012, 02:52 | posts: 14,812 | Location: Glasgow

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It really doesn't take long to get used to it. Some on this forum though, fall considerably short of the "enthusiast" they claim to be. I wanted like hell to hate Metro, but after reading a post from Denial (that I think I borrowed from for a post in this thread), I reinstalled Win8. I picked up my cellphone (WP7) and set about to "experience" Win8 all over again. I've found, it's no where near as bad as so many on this forum make it out to be. They're just too close-minded and refuse to accept change. Their loss. Once you learn where things are and how to get to them quickly, it's actually rather enjoyable to use. Of course, it requires keeping an open mind...
I'm in the camp of not liking, or hating it, mostly due to not using it long enough to judge, and I've been through far too many OS changes to know that I should never listen my first impression.

Not sure I will ever like Metro, it's just abit too huge, especially on a 47inch screen, but I will wait and see.
   
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Can I dual boot this with Windows 7? I remember something about the previous version's loader being incompatible with it.
   
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Can I dual boot this with Windows 7? I remember something about the previous version's loader being incompatible with it.
I saw a message earlier that it messed up someones boot loader.
Caution advised.
   
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