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Default 02-05-2012, 03:02 | posts: 91 | Location: USA

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I would never buy a product based on fanboism. That is just dumb brand loyalty.
Really you could've fooled me................................sounds like your taking things to the extreme,that's ok nobody can take you seriously after your post's in this thread,good day.
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 03:08 | posts: 6,792 | Location: USA

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So there a true failure so what,whats that mean i cant or other's cant like amd cpu's,what crack pipe you intel fanboys been smokin.
you guys are the true failures,this is how non-newbies represent guru forums,real nice.
The only fanboy would be yourself. You spend so much time defending a failed product, which only a true fanboy of a company would do. The general census of every review of BD is that it sucks and is a total failure for amd.
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 03:11 | posts: 18,719 | Location: New Jersey, USA

I state the facts. If that hurts you in any way I am truly sorry. Tbh I don't take anything you say seriously. So if your not discussing the thread in hand don't quote me k?
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 03:48 | posts: 91 | Location: USA

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I state the facts. If that hurts you in any way I am truly sorry. Tbh I don't take anything you say seriously. So if your not discussing the thread in hand don't quote me k?
It seems your the one that's hurt and trying to get this thread closed with your child like remark's,you just repeat the same thing over and over,you have tunnel vision and cant see past your credibility which isnt much at this point.
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 05:31 | posts: 18,719 | Location: New Jersey, USA

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It seems your the one that's hurt and trying to get this thread closed with your child like remark's,you just repeat the same thing over and over,you have tunnel vision and cant see past your credibility which isnt much at this point.
I asked you not to quote me. U have nothing of any importance to say and do not even show a glimmer of intellect while I'm at it. All you do is toot your fanbio horn and guess what you are thefanboi, and why you attack me personally escapes me. I had amd for years when they were on top. To get my money again they would have to beat Intel. Good Luck on that happening
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 06:05 | posts: 807 | Location: South Africa

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he probably means revised version like phenom 1 was crap but phenom 2 far better, like piledriver would be like rev 2 of BD
Thats what i'm saying. First gen i7 were also power hungry.
Did ppl bitch about that? AMD had fab problems with BD and i can guarantee that the next revision will be a lot better.
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 07:27 | posts: 1,573 | Location: Here.

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Thats what i'm saying. First gen i7 were also power hungry.
Did ppl bitch about that? AMD had fab problems with BD and i can guarantee that the next revision will be a lot better.
People didnt bitch about that because the first gen i7 had good performance...unlike BD.
   
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Cool 02-05-2012, 07:32 | posts: 142

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Were failures because we said BD is a monumental failure? Its not nearly as good as this thread attempts. To make it out as. It is done by comparing bd at 4.8 vs low clocked Intel's. I am no fan of any company. I am a fan of performance. I will not hesitate to switch brands for better performance, unlike some of the other people in this thread. I would never buy a product based on fanboism. That is just dumb brand loyalty.
a low clocked 1000 dollar cpu is a fair game imo. And not to mention, most of my benchmarks dont compare to lower clocked intels, only select ones where the internet is limited to those results. I invite anyone to find me a SB comparison for each of my benchmarks comparing to "low clocked intels", and id gladly post that instead.

As much as this screams viral marketing, I am just a true AMD fan, so get over it lol.
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 07:37 | posts: 142

I see only 3/15 benchmarks comparing to "low clocked intels" and its obviously not on purpose. People keep thinking im trying to put intel in bad light so they attack bulldozer for no reason haha. I still believe my blog has valuable info no other benchmark reviewer has.
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 10:42 | posts: 9

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PD is expected to be 10-15% increase only of BD or might be 15-20% do not remember exactly.
if my memory serves me right, it was 10-15% performance per watts a year. but thats like irelevant. the real source of leap from zambezi to vishera is improved IPC, power optimizations, new instruction, and higher clock speeds. i think theres more but that just what i remember. so improved IPC and again higher clock speeds will give you more throughput. so amd is not really eyeing now for clock per clock competition against intel, its just different now, since BD arch scales well with higher clocks than lower clocks unlike intels arch(they scale well on default).


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BD is a failure. 8150 is an actual 4core cpu with SMT with dedicated hardware.. makes it perform worse than thubans. and look at those 6core and 4 core BDs.. real 3 cores and 3 SMT threads. the FX4100 is a real dual core with an extra 2 threads of SMT..complete failure. If you are arguing that they aren't crap, you either are a huge AMD fanboy who cant agree with that true statement, an owner of a failure BD cpu who is to proud to admit that he has a crappy cpu, or an amd rep trying to sell a failed cpu series.
do you even know what you are talking about?? SMT is not as good as CMT. CMT is cluster multithreading btw. its not SMT they are two different things. its just like saying 2 people riding a bike(1bike only) vs 2people riding their own bikes.

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when you say potential do you mean buy a BD now and wait for windows 8 to arrive?
and seriously every single 1 of op posts have been in this thread alone, I would expect the same in the other sites as well. this smells like amd viral marketing.
no, poly is just showing something that BD can do. i know its like bugatti veyron in terms of consumption but only performs like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ob0G...layer_embedded.. ok.. just a little bit better (maybe you want to ride that jeepney sometime haha)

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I'm not bashing on amd. If they had good cpus Intel would have to lower prices. My problem with this thread is the clock speed on the Intel side. If all CPU speeds were the same I doubt this thread would even exist. This thread is here to sell BD cpus and if you Google OP name followed by bulldozer you will see this on all the major sites. I have read all the BD reviews on launch and they tell a very different story than this thread.
come on.. its just a test, just take it with a grain of salt. in every graphs he showed, he showed the clocks of the contenders so nothing can be said as biased. and the results are genuine, its not edited. i know it seems bias to you but stop saying that the results are skewed and the results are not real like another processor made it, not the FX. i know the current gen sucks but saying someones work is a joke or not real, when he put a lot of his time for it?... that just seem to be wrong for me..

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Thats what i'm saying. First gen i7 were also power hungry.
Did ppl bitch about that? AMD had fab problems with BD and i can guarantee that the next revision will be a lot better.
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People didnt bitch about that because the first gen i7 had good performance...unlike BD.
because they never had fab problems
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 12:14 | posts: 9

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The only fanboy would be yourself. You spend so much time defending a failed product, which only a true fanboy of a company would do. The general census of every review of BD is that it sucks and is a total failure for amd.
so if onemustfall is an amd fanboy, what can you call yourself huh.. arent you an intel fanboooyyy??yiieee. jokes haha
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 12:33 | posts: 142

DIRT 3 @ 4.0 Ghz up tomorrow! stay tuned! Will FX beat i5 2500k @ 4.0 Ghz??

   
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Default 02-05-2012, 14:44 | posts: 335 | Location: France

yeah BD is not as good as SB in benchmark or on high res gaming, but it perform well in multithreading apps, you can read this review to be sure:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx...essor-review/1
when you gaming at 1080p with a high end gpu there's not much difference between cpu:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/battle...nchmark-test/3, sure the higher the cpu is cloked the more fsp you gain but it's good for all cpu even SB.
So unless you play with multimonitor or your are a benchmark fanatic, BD is still a good cpu for mainstream.

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Default 02-05-2012, 16:39 | posts: 6,792 | Location: USA

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so if onemustfall is an amd fanboy, what can you call yourself huh.. arent you an intel fanboooyyy??yiieee. jokes haha
Yawn, new kid trying to start sh1t. BD is SMT with dedicated integer units, hence the crappy performance, makes the overall cpu fpu starved. Get your facts straight. I am a fan of performance, not of crappy power hungry cpus that are beaten by 4 year old 1st gen cpus.
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 17:12 | posts: 18,719 | Location: New Jersey, USA

Agent these guys are all trolls. When they can't argue the fact that Bd is good. They turn to personal insults
   
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DIRT 3 @ 4.0 Ghz up tomorrow! stay tuned! Will FX beat i5 2500k @ 4.0 Ghz??

Bd at 4.0 or the usual unfair 4.8?
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 17:43 | posts: 807 | Location: South Africa

@TK and Agent, i think u are the trolls here mate.

Please leave this thread if you can't post something useful.
Bashing Poly and BD might make u feel better.

Facts, we know BD isn't the SB thrasher we all hoped for.
But to say it's crap...well, just isn't true. It has strong points and weak points.
If AMD, through future revisions, can improve in the weak areas this CPU will rock.

Now please, stop trolling and enjoy you SB
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 18:05 | posts: 18,719 | Location: New Jersey, USA

we are not the trolls. I entered this thread and posted many times about the unfair comparisons. mR Yellow name one postitive thing you have done in this thread, cause I cant think of 1 thing. enjoy your BD but get one thing strait this thread is showing a scewed view of what BD really is. if you want to make some comparisons with 1 580 with agent and I go right ahead, 3dmark 11, vantage with ppu disabled. not heaven 2.5 because that is all gpu power. my cores flucuate from 1600 to 47/4800 whichever speed I am running. if you have some benchmarks in mind name them. the cpu speed and 580 speed will also have to be the same. I doubt you will take this challenge but I am throwing that out there. do something positive for a change instead of just insulting k?
in this format so no cheating



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Im up for it, my 3DMark 11 physics score is ~12000 at 5ghz
   
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@TK and Agent, i think u are the trolls here mate.

Please leave this thread if you can't post something useful.
Bashing Poly and BD might make u feel better.

Facts, we know BD isn't the SB thrasher we all hoped for.
But to say it's crap...well, just isn't true. It has strong points and weak points.
If AMD, through future revisions, can improve in the weak areas this CPU will rock.

Now please, stop trolling and enjoy you SB
Finally these two morons are recognized. Their unique advice all over Guru3D forum is:

"Get yourself SB 2500K or 2600K and new motherboard!"
   
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Default 02-05-2012, 21:01 | posts: 6,792 | Location: USA

Notice the only people defending BD have AMD cpus. Every review says bd sucks. How can you release a new gen cpu and have the old thuban cpus outperform it? That makes it junk. And amd owners respond to facts by throwing petty insults instead of providing something useful.

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Finally these two morons are recognized. Their unique advice all over Guru3D forum is:

"Get yourself SB 2500K or 2600K and new motherboard!"
you look like the troll here. here since 2006 and cannot come with a better statement than this. I have helped countless people on theses forums and agent too. can any of you trolls say the same or you just here to defend a cpu brand to your death
   
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Im up for it, my 3DMark 11 physics score is ~12000 at 5ghz
if you look at that gpuz number on that bench I provided was almost a year old. lol oops 3/25/11 damn thats old
   
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This is exactly the reason why I have gave up coming to this forum. I could care less about anyones 2600k. Put my system next to any Intel 2600k system during gaming and you won't see a difference.
   
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