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Default 02-03-2012, 14:25 | posts: 335 | Location: France

plyzp i really want to see power consuption on your test, both on default clock and oc to see if BD eat as lot of power that everyone say and to see SB real consuption because intel never reveal the max tpd of their chip.
   
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Default 02-03-2012, 15:46 | posts: 142

AVP revisited with Patch, AND POV Ray 3.7 RC3 benchmarks up!
   
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Default 02-03-2012, 16:33 | posts: 142

I will be doing a power usage post soon! ^^
   
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Default 02-03-2012, 16:50 | posts: 18,718 | Location: New Jersey, USA

hows about a review with all vc and cpu`s on a fair and level playing field? 2 580`s at 797? thats just a very minor stock oc. is the 7950 stock 800 iirc and you are testing it with a 100mhz oc. same goes for skewed cpu tests. fx at 4.8 all intel considerabley lower. seriously most people on here are tech savvy. and for the ones who are not, people like me post in these threads. as for saying you do not work for amd, I do not believe that for a second. I have been told to google your name followed by bulldoder and you can findmany skewed revies like this all over the net
   
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Default 02-03-2012, 18:17 | posts: 335 | Location: France

i think he must hav call his review "how much oc for BD to keep up with SB", that's with i'm calling for a power test because i see alot of SB high oc reaching very high temp even on custom watercooling so it can suggest the power consuption is very high, if the powerdraw by BD and SB are close to each other with same oc, it could interresting to see these result included in the test.
   
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Cool 02-03-2012, 20:49 | posts: 142

My results are not scewed, only the choice of benchmarks. I admit I have chosen benchmarks where BD does better than usual, but its about time a review site shows its strengths as well as weaknesses (my review is not finished yet).

I love how people think just because they see bulldozer doing well for once that my results are for some reason scewed. Think outside of the box for once.
   
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Default 02-03-2012, 21:20 | posts: 18,718 | Location: New Jersey, USA

they are skewed 100% if it wasnt skewed all cpu would be at the same speed both amd and intel. same goes for graphics cards too. comparing BD at 4.8 to 3.6ghz first gen i7 at 3.6 is bogus. same goes for bd at 4.8 vs an 1155 2500k at 4ghz. this is about an unfair biased review that I have seen in a long long time. you are not going to fool most people in here with these benchmarks either, the few you might of convinced have people like me and other users to show them the light. where are the benchmarks with bd at 4.0ghz that you said you were going to do for me. you know the one where you were comparing a 4.8 BD to a lowly clock 2500k at just 4ghz?
   
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Default 02-03-2012, 21:35 | posts: 3,048 | Location: Sheffield UK

If your benchmarker like you claim in post 1# how come you had to make new accounts for every single forum review site out there? like guru3d, anandtech, hardocp, overclockers, hardwarecanucks...why do you need post the exact same thing on every single tech site out there? Your whole thread here an everywhere comes across as viral marketing which I believe it is.


   
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Default 02-03-2012, 23:41 | posts: 142

I only posted to get peoples opinion, its nothing more than that. Again, if you look at clocks and understand the differences between set ups, then it isnt skewed at all. Everything should be put into consideration when looking at my comparisons. I am not purposely posting comparisons with older arch, thats just what other reviewers seem to be using over and over (where are all the 2600k + 6990 reviews?? ><, I would rather use these to compare) When a 2600k can be compared to , I do. Because I dont own a 2600k myself it is hard to make perfect comparisons, instead I am only left with what other review sites with the same GPU have posted. Believe what you may, but I am not trying to market anything at all, I am not making a single penny from all this.
   
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Default 02-03-2012, 23:44 | posts: 142

If i posted a pentium 4 with a 6990, against an FX at 4.8 Ghz with a 6990, this still wouldn't be skewing the results. The results are what they are, take them with a grain of salt. If you keep in mind that it IS a pentium 4 at a low clock, then it is what it is. Everything is simply for comparison's sake, nothing more.
   
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Default 02-03-2012, 23:53 | posts: 18,718 | Location: New Jersey, USA

Your are right take this whole thread with an oceans worth of salt. Good advice there
   
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Default 02-04-2012, 00:01 | posts: 91 | Location: USA

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Your are right take this whole thread with an oceans worth of salt. Good advice there
Why you change your screen name!...
   
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Default 02-04-2012, 00:04 | posts: 18,718 | Location: New Jersey, USA

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Why you change your screen name!...
Personal reasons I'd rather not get into. And my old name was so 2005 lol
   
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Default 02-04-2012, 00:07 | posts: 91 | Location: USA

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ugg never heard of viral marketing until just recently. I am chucking this thread in with the hardocp review of bulldozer and flushing the toilet
Does your parents know your on the net,what are you in 6th-7th grade,cause you sure act like it.
   
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Default 02-04-2012, 00:14 | posts: 18,718 | Location: New Jersey, USA

What me spamming an inaccurate review. I call em like I see them bud. You may like BD beating low clocked Intel's but I would say exactly the same thing comparing an i7 at 5ghz vs a BD at 4ghz. BD is a win in this thread based on low clocked intels
   
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Default 02-04-2012, 00:28 | posts: 142

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What me spamming an inaccurate review. I call em like I see them bud. You may like BD beating low clocked Intel's but I would say exactly the same thing comparing an i7 at 5ghz vs a BD at 4ghz. BD is a win in this thread based on low clocked intels
incorrect, wrong - not correct; not in conformity with fact or truth; "an incorrect calculation"; "the report in the paper is wrong"; "your information is wrong"; "the clock showed the wrong time"; "found themselves on the wrong road"; "based on the wrong assumptions"

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I invite everyone with an FX 8150 that can hit 4.8 stabily , and a 6990 to test their rig with the 15+ benchmarks I have. They will all see that my scores aren't so erroneous. (Give or take error due to memory difference) . Of course me comparing my results with intel cpus at lower frequencies doesnt make the data incorrect. I invite you to do your own research as well of course to get a clearer picture (if you find any sandy bridge @ 4.8 Ghz with 6990 OCd benchmarks id be glad to post comparisons with these as well).
   
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Default 02-04-2012, 00:41 | posts: 18,718 | Location: New Jersey, USA

All your benches are skewed against Intel and nvidia to some degree. Tests should all be at stock clocks and similarily overclocked CPU and gpu. That is called a fair and impartial test. Since you are unwilling to do that, maybe you don't want to or amd told you not to idk. In a fair fight I believe BD would lose in most tests so you wont be doing that. Can I as why you posted all these reviews on major sites? Yet you have not posted anywhere else on this forum. I do not need to post anymore in this thread as I said everything that need to be said. If you decide to do fair comparisons shoot me a pm and I will have a look. GL

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Default 02-04-2012, 03:02 | posts: 9

dafuqs wrong with you guys??? the guy is just showing his tests from his own hard earned rig. why not you guys just help him out and post some of your own benches for comparison. and perhaps this thread he open is for him to show some people if BD bottlenecks a high end video card like HD6990

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Finally Bulldozer can Breath! Will FX shine? or will it fall short? Will an overclocked FX bottleneck a 6990 OC'd?
or youre not reading the article and just looking in to his graphs?? haven't you guys read that he only gets comparison from tom hardware as he do not own any i7 products?(e.g. i7990x, 2600k, SB-E) if some of you have an i7 with hd6990 you can overclock em to whatever clock you want and post the results for comparison... yes??

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All your benches are skewed against Intel and nvidia to some degree. Tests should all be at stock clocks and similarily overclocked CPU and gpu. That is called a fair and impartial test. Since you are unwilling to do that, maybe you don't want to or amd told you not to idk. In a fair fight I believe BD would lose in most tests so you wont be doing that. Can I as why you posted all these reviews on major sites? Yet you have not posted anywhere else on this forum. I do not need to post anymore in this thread as I said everything that need to be said. If you decide to do fair comparisons shoot me a pm and I will have a look. GL
now that is pointless.. the whole point of his article is to push BD in to its limits and see if it bottlenecks not to compare things at stock. just to remind you IF you have not read the whole thing.
   
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Default 02-04-2012, 03:07 | posts: 9

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All your benches are skewed against Intel and nvidia to some degree.
just to add.

how come you said nvidia?? he used hd6990 as it is what he has and only get benchmark graphs that is used with an HD6990.

im a newbie here btw but i cant see any reason why people bash someone that worked hard and get no respect. so do you mean that if one benchmark show that intel got beat up that is skewed while if one benchmark show that intel beating up amd that is 100%unbiased.... what do yah reckon?
   
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Default 02-04-2012, 06:10 | posts: 2,038 | Location: NOVA

I like this thread.

AMD's CPUs are just fine.
Too much crying over synthetics. Go play a game and you can't tell any CPU 'midrange and up' apart.

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I like this thread.

AMD's CPUs are just fine.
Too much crying over synthetics. Go play a game and you can't tell any CPU 'midrange and up' apart.

-scheherazade
a friend upgraded from amd 1100T to a i5 2500k and there definately was smoother gameplay on the i5. FPS went up in some games . Resolution was 1080p.(gpu gtx 560ti)
   
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a friend upgraded from amd 1100T to a i5 2500k and there definately was smoother gameplay on the i5. FPS went up in some games . Resolution was 1080p.(gpu gtx 560ti)
I doubt that with a single gtx 560 Ti that fps will be much different between an i5 2500k and an 1100t.
   
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it was in skyrim ,crysis 1 and stalker
   
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^i don't think that it will change any visible gameplay,with gtx560ti at 1080P. It was definitely a placebo.

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of course it won't change any visible gameplay...its not like with the amd cpu you will get 30 fps and 60 with the intel one..no, but the gameplay was much smoother and it wasnt a placebo..even when i went from my rig to play on my friends rig(with amd cpu) games werent smooth enough, it could be human error also...his windows wasnt too tidy, so yea thats not excluded.
   
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