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Exodite
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Default 12-02-2011, 06:09 | posts: 1,652 | Location: LuleŚ, Sweden

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Buddy, it's for my old rig.

I'm buying a new one.
FWIW my rig idles at ~60-65W, runs at load/gaming at ~160-200W and handles stress testing at ~300-320W.

And this is at the socket, meaning actual power required from the PSU is less.

A lot of people overrate their power needs, almost no one needs 700-1000W PSUs.
   
 
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Mkilbride
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Default 12-02-2011, 06:46 | posts: 8,074 | Location: US, New Hampshire

Oh, I agree with you there.

But Capacitor aging comes into play.
   
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Default 12-02-2011, 06:50 | posts: 10,439 | Location: Toledo Ohio

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FWIW my rig idles at ~60-65W, runs at load/gaming at ~160-200W and handles stress testing at ~300-320W.

And this is at the socket, meaning actual power required from the PSU is less.

A lot of people overrate their power needs, almost no one needs 700-1000W PSUs.
If you're not worried about power usage too much though, it's always better to have a little extra head room. I'm still my 550w that's about maybe almost 2 years old now, so given that it only works max at 80% originally, and cap aging, I'm probably getting oh maybe at the most480w? Probably giving myself too much power there lawlz.
   
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Default 12-02-2011, 13:21 | posts: 1,256 | Location: Bay City, MI

Love my X-650, that and my CPU are the nicest components I have ever had the pleasure of using. I like to grab these 650's when their on sale at newegg for like $109.99. Might be a few dollars more initially but the power saved, reliability, and clean quality they provide make it all worthwhile.
   
 
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Default 12-02-2011, 14:51 | posts: 1,652 | Location: LuleŚ, Sweden

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If you're not worried about power usage too much though, it's always better to have a little extra head room.
I have, I'm not even utilizing half the capacity of my PSU under load.

Realistically I should have gone with the 400W model rather than the 460W one, though at the time I didn't expect my power consumption to be as low as it turned out to be.

I suppose there might be a 400W platinum model in my future, once those start making it to market.
   
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Default 12-02-2011, 15:38 | posts: 4,830 | Location: Malta

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Oh, I agree with you there.

But Capacitor aging comes into play.
Capacitor ageing is not a good reason to over estimate PSU.

There are no good reasons to over rate a PSU in such a manner. Everything de rates over time.

If only you knew how power companies cheap out at your local sub stations... I've seen 90 year old distribution transformers in which the impregnated paper (oil filled dielectric) turned into mushy goo yet it still runs and no one intends to change it.

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Default 12-03-2011, 12:08 | posts: 107 | Location: Romania

Doesn't capacitor aging come into play at least after 20 years? I have an oscilloscope i think is 30 years old or more ant it still works fine. Well .... as fine as 30 year old tech can work
   
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Default 12-04-2011, 11:28 | posts: 1

Can this psu work always without fan ???
   
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Default 12-04-2011, 15:49 | posts: 1,652 | Location: LuleŚ, Sweden

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Can this psu work always without fan ???
At lower loads and/or with decent airflow it likely will.

However, if that's what you want you should probably look at Seasonic's fanless models. I'm using the 460W model myself and aside from a bit too loud electrical noise I'm very happy with it.
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 03:12 | posts: 6,650 | Location: USA

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Can this psu work always without fan ???
No, the fan will always activate once psu hits a certain temp or goes over a certain wattage; believe its around 700 watts. Even when the fan is on, i cant hear it at all

Seems im the only guru with this psu, and i can safely say its the best 1kw psu you can buy. Anyone contemplating getting this psu, it is very much worth the price premium.
   
 
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Default 12-05-2011, 06:03 | posts: 49 | Location: Toronto

Yeah, loving my seasonic. Don't think I'll ever need to change power supplies.
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 10:57 | posts: 8,074 | Location: US, New Hampshire

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Yeah, loving my seasonic. Don't think I'll ever need to change power supplies.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1177728/t...ngle-psu-brand
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 11:01 | posts: 23,384 | Location: Hoek van Holland, Netherlands

well ive had 3 OCZ PSU's in the last 8 years. bad ventilation and noise made me decide not to ever choose ocz again.
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 11:08 | posts: 94 | Location: New Orleans, LA

I should probably update this a bit. as my numbers have been thrown off lately since the release of some newer units.. might re-take the census.

Mostly people who simply hear the phrase 'seasonic', or 'Corsair' simply run out and tell the world what to get, and it doesn't leave much choice.

Go on quality, not the quantity of those who advise to make a purchase.

I have decent guide back on OCN.


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Default 12-05-2011, 11:18 | posts: 21,103 | Location: Guru3D testlab

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I have decent guide back on OCN.
How about posting your guide here instead of promoting OCN ?


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Default 12-05-2011, 11:22 | posts: 94 | Location: New Orleans, LA

My apologies, don't want to stir up a mess.

Which section shall i post in? i'm not to familiar round these parts.

EDIT: i placed it in the general hardware section, if this is acceptable, let me know, if not, just place it in the corresponding section. please change/move anything to fit the rules or the likings here.

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Default 12-05-2011, 11:31 | posts: 21,103 | Location: Guru3D testlab

It's not a mess, but with 10 posts in which 4 or 5 you mention OCN that becomes a little 'suspicious'.

Anyway we'd be pleased to see you post your guides here, please use the general hardware section for PSU related posts, thanks man.


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Default 12-05-2011, 11:33 | posts: 94 | Location: New Orleans, LA

Of course of course, should i paraphrase, or simply copy and paste? (feel a bit o' lazy today).

In fact, i think i'll just migrate some things here.


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It's not a mess, but with 10 posts in which 4 or 5 you mention OCN that becomes a little 'suspicious'.

Anyway we'd be pleased to see you post your guides here, please use the general hardware section for PSU related posts, thanks man.
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 13:57 | posts: 1,652 | Location: LuleŚ, Sweden

Ugh.

While I agree that having a large amount of choice is good for the market and the consumer there's a good reason people are buying Seasonic PSUs.

They're better than the competition, often by a large margin.

To compete with that requires better competition, or that consumer preferences migrate towards cheaper units at the cost of quality.

Since the first has yet to happen in a large scale what you're advocating is essentially the second option.
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 14:02 | posts: 94 | Location: New Orleans, LA

You haven't read anything iv'e posted, have you. stating a PSU maker or vendor that wins due in high sales or recommendations because purely of what is perceived as quality means that competition is in effect nearly null, not to mention it's splitting hairs.

second option is to be more open.


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Ugh.

While I agree that having a large amount of choice is good for the market and the consumer there's a good reason people are buying Seasonic PSUs.

They're better than the competition, often by a large margin.

To compete with that requires better competition, or that consumer preferences migrate towards cheaper units at the cost of quality.

Since the first has yet to happen in a large scale what you're advocating is essentially the second option.
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 16:51 | posts: 6,650 | Location: USA

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You haven't read anything iv'e posted, have you. stating a PSU maker or vendor that wins due in high sales or recommendations because purely of what is perceived as quality means that competition is in effect nearly null, not to mention it's splitting hairs.

second option is to be more open.
Your arguement is invalid regardless, seasonic DOES make some of the best PSUs out there, they didnt get there by cheap psus now did they? people recommend stuff for a reason.
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 17:19 | posts: 94 | Location: New Orleans, LA

I never said they didn't.. maybe you don't know who i am.. ask around.

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Your arguement is invalid regardless, seasonic DOES make some of the best PSUs out there, they didnt get there by cheap psus now did they? people recommend stuff for a reason.
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 17:24 | posts: 18,515 | Location: New Jersey, USA

ask me! I have seen your posts, you call people trolls who do not agree with you. not very impressive if you ask me
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 17:25 | posts: 94 | Location: New Orleans, LA

Again, i'm used to a different atmosphere.from another forum.

i'm still trying to settle in.
   
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Default 12-05-2011, 17:29 | posts: 18,515 | Location: New Jersey, USA

well this isnt a troll forum.
   
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