Nikon D800 image leaks, said to have a 36 megapixel sensor

kanej2007

Source: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/11/19/la...kon-d800.aspx/

This is gonna be one expensive baby when it's released.

The megapixel count is crazy high but will be great for studio work, blowing up large prints, landscape, etc...

INSTG8R · 11-21-2011, 12:58 | posts: 1,188 | Location: Lost in Norway

Love my D300. This looks very impressive.

Finchwizard

36Mp........ from Nikon?

Seems unlikely to me. Be more like 16Mp knowing Nikon.

Seems crazy if it is. Be interested in the low light performance with a sensor that big.

NoviceRei · 11-22-2011, 02:34 | posts: 2,116 | Location: Philippines

according to dom bower (if you're a subscriber to his channel in YT), it's practically the same as the D7000 sensor only enlarged to full frame levels... so low light should be very good. but then again, all the info on the interweb are speculations.

also, i'm not really buying the the MP-count wars. my D7000's 16MP is more than enough for me, 36MP are practically medium format size.

kanej2007 · 11-22-2011, 05:32 | posts: 5,701 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by NoviceRei

according to dom bower (if you're a subscriber to his channel in YT), it's practically the same as the D7000 sensor only enlarged to full frame levels... so low light should be very good. but then again, all the info on the interweb are speculations.

also, i'm not really buying the the MP-count wars. my D7000's 16MP is more than enough for me, 36MP are practically medium format size.

Yeah, I got a D7000 myself, GREAT camera and good value for money, great low light performance, even iso 6400 looks great.

Compared to my old D300 the D7000 at iso 6400 looks like D300 at 1000...

NoviceRei · 11-22-2011, 13:14 | posts: 2,116 | Location: Philippines

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Originally Posted by kanej2007

Yeah, I got a D7000 myself, GREAT camera and good value for money, great low light performance, even iso 6400 looks great.

Compared to my old D300 the D7000 at iso 6400 looks like D300 at 1000...

yeah.. the D7k really is great value for your money. i love mine. it opens up a new world for me with its great ISO capability.

robert1990 · 11-23-2011, 00:12 | posts: 734 | Location: Sydney/Indonesia

The pic shown looks been shopped. Blurry battery grip and left side of the camera, while the right side is sharp. Different black level n contrast as well. Dunno, I could be wrong

kanej2007 · 11-23-2011, 05:48 | posts: 5,701 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by robert1990

The pic shown looks been shopped. Blurry battery grip and left side of the camera, while the right side is sharp. Different black level n contrast as well. Dunno, I could be wrong

It most probably is a photoshop image, no one knows how the camera will look and can only guess roughly what it's gonna look like...

Obviously it won't be much different to a D700 and the final release won't be much different....

I wonder how much they will cost?

kanej2007 · 12-19-2011, 05:28 | posts: 5,701 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

Seems that this camera will be released sometime in march, it will soon be announced and there is a 99% chance it will have a 36mp sensor...

It is estimated to cost around 300,000 yen in Japan, which comes out to £2,487!

Link: http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalcamer...nsor-50006436/

NoviceRei · 12-19-2011, 18:06 | posts: 2,116 | Location: Philippines

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Originally Posted by kanej2007

Seems that this camera will be released sometime in march, it will soon be announced and there is a 99% chance it will have a 36mp sensor...

It is estimated to cost around 300,000 yen in Japan, which comes out to £2,487!

Link: http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalcamer...nsor-50006436/

accdg to nikonrumors it's end of Jan 2012.. really really close.

Link: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/12/17/ni...ary-2012.aspx/

also, people are also anticipating the D4 announcement this upcoming Jan 6.. so should be lots of good news to keep us on our toes

kanej2007 · 12-20-2011, 05:40 | posts: 5,701 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by NoviceRei

accdg to nikonrumors it's end of Jan 2012.. really really close.

Link: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/12/17/ni...ary-2012.aspx/

also, people are also anticipating the D4 announcement this upcoming Jan 6.. so should be lots of good news to keep us on our toes

Yeah, will start saving for one, it's great value for money compared to a Mamiya or Hasseblad which cost far more and only have a few more mp...

The D4 will be great, if not the best for low light performance and the D800 will be great for mp count, therefore perfect for studio shoots, landscape and blowing up large prints...

If the D800 is released costing around £2500 then I'm definately getting one.

NoviceRei · 12-20-2011, 19:00 | posts: 2,116 | Location: Philippines

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Originally Posted by kanej2007

Yeah, will start saving for one, it's great value for money compared to a Mamiya or Hasseblad which cost far more and only have a few more mp...

The D4 will be great, if not the best for low light performance and the D800 will be great for mp count, therefore perfect for studio shoots, landscape and blowing up large prints...

If the D800 is released costing around £2500 then I'm definately getting one.

wow man. advance merry xmas to you then. haha.

how much was the D700 when it first came out btw?

sovietdoc · 12-20-2011, 20:59 | posts: 698 | Location: h4x0r_lund

are you sure this is a d800 not a replacement for d3x?

NoviceRei · 12-21-2011, 01:23 | posts: 2,116 | Location: Philippines

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Originally Posted by sovietdoc

are you sure this is a d800 not a replacement for d3x?

nope, the D800 is replacing the D700. It's the D4 that would be replacing the D3 series bodies.

D4 Link: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/12/11/ni...ory-card.aspx/

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Nikon D4 specs:

16.2 MP
11 fps
Correction: 100-12,800 102,400 native ISO range, expandable to 50 and 204,800
CF + XQD memory card slots! That's right, the Nikon D4 will have the new Compact Flash XQD memory card slot.
Face detection/recognition function that will be working in the viewfinder (maybe some type of a hybrid viewfinder? Nikon had several related patents)
Improved video, I have no other details on that but my guess is 1080p/30/25/24 and 720p/60/30/25/24

kanej2007 · 12-21-2011, 05:45 | posts: 5,701 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by NoviceRei

nope, the D800 is replacing the D700. It's the D4 that would be replacing the D3 series bodies.

D4 Link: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/12/11/ni...ory-card.aspx/

True. The only strange thing is why they've suddenly increased the mp from 12 to 36, that's a BIG jump...

The low light/high iso performance won't be great though, maybe on par with the old D3/D700...

The new D4 will piss over the D800 in low light & in fps...

Unfortunately there is no camera that has excellent high iso performance as well as high fps and high mp count.

If there were it would cost thousands and would never sell...

If you want speed, performance and great iso performance but not bothered about high mp count then something like a D3S or the new D4 would be great.

Otherwise if your not too bothered about fps and low light but require high resolution then the D800 is just what you need...

Canon is also the same, you either go for resolution or fps/speed and iso performance.

The 1DS Mark IV is just 16mp but is fantastic for low light iso performance as well as fps...

Should you require resolution then the 5DS Mark II is what you need!

chiefmasterjedi · 12-21-2011, 20:03 | posts: 485 | Location: NC

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Originally Posted by kanej2007

True. The only strange thing is why they've suddenly increased the mp from 12 to 36, that's a BIG jump...

I agree that the D800 is a strange upgrade from the current D700. But if you do the math it is a logical step forward. The current D7000 is a 16mp DX crop sensor and has quite a good high ISO range. FX is 1.5 times bigger in height and width than the DX sensor. So 36mp/1.5/1.5=16mp. I know that 1.5 isn't the exact crop ratio but you get my drift.
Anyway, even if the D800 turns out to be only $2000 I still don't think I'll be upgrading. 36mp is useless to me (and most people) and will triple the file size and take up more hard drive space. I currently have 60,000+ raw images on my drive and the same backed up to another drive. Maybe 50 of those photos have been printed and only 3 were printed larger than 8x11. So I'll be sticking with the D700 for now and hope Nikon rethinks the mega pixel war and comes up with a D900 that's only 24mp but better ISO.

Just my $0.02

NoviceRei · *Last edited by NoviceRei; 12-21-2011 at 21:13.*

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Originally Posted by chiefmasterjedi

I agree that the D800 is a strange upgrade from the current D700. But if you do the math it is a logical step forward. The current D7000 is a 16mp DX crop sensor and has quite a good high ISO range. FX is 1.5 times bigger in height and width than the DX sensor. So 36mp/1.5/1.5=16mp. I know that 1.5 isn't the exact crop ratio but you get my drift.
Anyway, even if the D800 turns out to be only $2000 I still don't think I'll be upgrading. 36mp is useless to me (and most people) and will triple the file size and take up more hard drive space. I currently have 60,000+ raw images on my drive and the same backed up to another drive. Maybe 50 of those photos have been printed and only 3 were printed larger than 8x11. So I'll be sticking with the D700 for now and hope Nikon rethinks the mega pixel war and comes up with a D900 that's only 24mp but better ISO.

Just my $0.02

based from what i read before, nikon is introducing "binning" wherein you could limit the pixel count and in return increase ISO performance. you may think of it as increasing the pixel density in exchange for decreased pixel count (which actually makes sense technically). but that was a few months ago when the D800 was first rumored, and i'm not sure if it is still true now.

but if that's true, then that would be a great tech to have as you have the flexibility to choose between low-light performance or really big picture resolution on the same body.

sovietdoc · 12-21-2011, 21:52 | posts: 698 | Location: h4x0r_lund

this is very weird. D3X was owning D700 in terms of mpix count So what you're saying is how its reversed now? D4 will be sports oriented and D800 is gonna be the high mpix cam? This is too strange to me.

The only thing I can think of, if this info is legit, is Nikon got scared of Canon's new flagship and they're trying to match it with something just as fast. So then it explains low mpx count but fast fps.

NoviceRei · 12-21-2011, 22:24 | posts: 2,116 | Location: Philippines

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Originally Posted by sovietdoc

this is very weird. D3X was owning D700 in terms of mpix count So what you're saying is how its reversed now? D4 will be sports oriented and D800 is gonna be the high mpix cam? This is too strange to me.

The only thing I can think of, if this info is legit, is Nikon got scared of Canon's new flagship and they're trying to match it with something just as fast. So then it explains low mpx count but fast fps.

yes it appears. but i don't think they're scared or also pursuing the MP-wars with canon. what nikon mainly improved upon these new set of bodies are their video capabilities, it's where canon is really trumping them on. we all know MP count doesn't mean jack unless you're doing billboard-size prints. it's the other 'non-marketing' specs that really count.

i also did some quick pixel density calculation and the D800 came with practically the same pixel density (0.044MP/mm2 [D7000] vs 0.041MP/mm2 [D800]) as the D7000. so on paper it should at least have the same ISO performance of a D7000. in comparison, D700 came out with a pixel density of 0.014MP/mm2. so that kinda puts into perspective the kind of low-light sensitivity the D700 has.

PS: i still can't find the vid about the D800 pixel binning. i swear it's one of dom bower's vids in YT, but i can't find it.

sovietdoc · 12-22-2011, 20:26 | posts: 698 | Location: h4x0r_lund

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what nikon mainly improved upon these new set of bodies are their video capabilities, it's where canon is really trumping them on.

Can't beat canons new flagship EOS C300 in terms of video

kanej2007 · 12-23-2011, 10:01 | posts: 5,701 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by sovietdoc

Can't beat canons new flagship EOS C300 in terms of video

Maybe not in video but certainly in image quality & size.

Anyway who cares about video, over 90% of people who buy slr cameras use them for taking pictures not videos...

If people want videos then they go and buy a proper video camera especially for videos...

As I mentioned above there is no such camera that is perfect or the best in everything from megapixel count to high iso ( low light) as well as video...

But if Nikon seriously releases the D800 with 36mp as specified along with a CHEAP £2500 price tag then it's amazing value for money, being HALF the price of the D3X & having an extra 12mp...

Time will tell, looking forward to the official specification, price tag & release date.

NoviceRei · 12-23-2011, 16:19 | posts: 2,116 | Location: Philippines

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Originally Posted by kanej2007

If people want videos then they go and buy a proper video camera especially for videos...

Agreed. IMO DSLRs should be for stills, and VideoCams for vids. No crossovers.

i would have preferred the extra time and money spent on improving performance in taking still photos, rather than developing video for DSLRs. or at least take out the video capability and make the bodies cheaper.

NoviceRei · 01-04-2012, 05:59 | posts: 2,116 | Location: Philippines

soo.. the long wait will soon be over, and January 6 is the date. anyone else anticipating the launch/release?

something to keep me busy for the next few days with the onslaught of reviews/articles/unboxings and whatnot.

kanej2007 · 01-07-2012, 09:39 | posts: 5,701 | Location: Dubai, UAE / London, UK

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Originally Posted by NoviceRei

soo.. the long wait will soon be over, and January 6 is the date. anyone else anticipating the launch/release?

something to keep me busy for the next few days with the onslaught of reviews/articles/unboxings and whatnot.

Be sure to post them here on Guru3D, would LOVE to get more information with regards to the Nikon D800.

The second it's announced I will be reserving one regardless of the cost...

PCthug · 01-07-2012, 11:06 | posts: 2,160 | Location: Durham, UK.

The thing that worries me is the size of the files.
On my Canon 5dII which has a 21mp sensor each photo is a hefty 24mb or there abouts.
Not sure how the extra pixels will relate in file size, but to give an idea, a 10mp file off my old Canon 400d was as small as 8mb, so half the pixels, but a lot less than half the file size.
At that rate each file might be about 45mb (complete guess BTW).