Mobile that has all of these or most of.

[Dual Core]

Im on the look out for a new phone soon as my contract comes to an end soon,atm ive got a Tocco ultra on T-mobile "i know naff network".
Whats all the talk about Android? and whats all the rage about 2.2 or 2.3 gingerbread, whats the difference? and can all 2.2 phones be upgraded and what makes android special?
Atm i get 600 mins and unlimited txts for about £27.00. so dont really want to go over £30 if i can help it.
I would like a phone preferably with a qwerty keypad and amazing predictive txt, tocco ultra is the worst ever, my old motorola razer had the best by far in my experiance.
A good camera with HD video recording with night view would be nice. or even better 3D camera and playback like the LG one.
Is one gig internet data a month any good and does anyone ever use it all on a phone web surfing and youtube or will i need more?
Built-in satnav with google maps or google earth if possible?
And good coverage in the UK.
If i think of anything else i would like in a phone i will add it to this post.

[vbetts]

2.2 froyo is the first android OS that officially supports abode flash(But only on armv7 cpus, which most mid-high end devices have), as well as googles JIT(Just in time compiler) that gives a great performance boost. 2.2 and 2.3 does have some differences, but nothing life changing. For example, Android 2.3 Gingerbread's default format is ext4, which has also shown to give a performance boost for Android seeing that ext4 is a default linux format. 2.3 also has a few other changes and a few new app updates.
Now, updating from 2.2 to 2.3. This is where Android has one of it's problems, fragmentation. Since Android is open source, it is up to the carrier and the manufacturer of the phone to provide updates unless it's a google experience device like Nexus one, Nexus S, or Motorola Xoom. In the case of Google Experience devices, Google provides the updates. There are some devices that have 2.2 and get a 2.3 officially, but then there are some that aren't because of hardware limitations, or just neglect. The HTC Desire is a great example!
HTC Desire runs the same platform that other high end devices ran at the time, a 65nm Snapdragon 1ghz arm v7 neon a8 base cpu with Adreno 200 gpu. HTC used this in a lot other devices, such as the Evo, the Incredible, Nexus One, hd2, and their WP7 devices. However, the Desire in terms of actual hardware is probably the lowest out of all them, seeing the Desire has the least amount of Ram and Rom. Because of this, HTC first decided that Gingerbread was too big for the Desire, but then took back that statement and to give more room on the device, some carriers are even taking off HTC's user interface replacement for Android known as Sense! The HD2 which originally runs Windows Mobile, even has a fully working Gingerbread sense build on it. With that being said, there are communities that make their own roms, fixes, and updates for devices. XDA developers is the biggest one, known for Android, Windows Mobile, WP7, even Ios development now. Problem with this, custom roms require root access to the system, which puts out any type of warranty for your device. But when there are already Gingerbread sense roms created and working on the Desire, well there's the advantage to open source right there!

Now, for what you want there isn't a whole lot. The only one I can think of coming soon with decent specs and qwerty, is the Motorola Droid 3(GSM version is Milestone 3). But, here are the top performance devices now.

HTC Sensation-4.3 Android 2.3 device, with Sense 3.0 running the first generation Dual core Snapdragon @ 1.2 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation-3875.php

Samsung Galaxy SII-4.3 inch Android 2.3 device, with Touchwiz 4 running Samsungs Orion dual core @ 1.2 ghz, beautiful Super AMOLED+ screen too
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i910..._s_ii-3621.php

Motorola Atrix- 4 inch Android 2.2 device(2.3 coming soon) running MotoBlur(Known for problems), on Nvidia Tegra 2 dual core @ 1ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php
LG Optimus X2- 4 inch Android 2.3 device running LG's custom UI on it, running TI omap dual core @ 1ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x-3598.php

Devices that were high end, and are now considered mid market devices

HTC has too many of them, which all run the same basic platform with a few differences. Snapdragon Scorpion 45nm all running HTC Sense, with Android 2.2-Android 2.3 depending on the device, which range from 3.5"-4.3" screens.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_s-3776.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_incredible_s-3788.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd-3468.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_z-3421.php

Samsung Galaxy S- 4inch Android 2.2(2.3 in areas) running Touchwiz 3, super AMOLED screen running Samsung's Hummingbird @ 1 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-3115.php
(NOTE-There is also a version that is running a single core TI omap a8)

Samsung Nexus S- 4 Inch Android 2.3 directly from Google, curved super AMOLED screen with support from Google running Hummingbird @ 1 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_goog...i9023-3910.php

Motorola Cliq 2- 3.7 inch qwerty slider Android 2.2 with MotoBlur, runnig Ti omap a8 @ 1 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_cliq_2-3454.php

Motorola Milestone 2-3.7 inch qwerty slider, Android 2.2 with Ninjablur, running TI omap a8 @ 1 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_mil...me722-3911.php

Sony Ericsson Xperia X10- 4 inch Android 2.1(Upgradable to 2.3 in August) with Sony's UI replacement and apps, running on Snapdragon 65 nm @ 1 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...a_x10-2964.php

Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc- 4.2 Android 2.3 running Sony's UI replacement and apps, running on Snapdragon Scorpion 45nm @ 1ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...a_arc-3619.php

Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo-Same as the Arc, but with a 3.7 inch screen instead
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...a_neo-3734.php

Sony Ericsson Xperia Play-4 inch Slider gamepad device running Android 2.3, with Sony's UI replacement as well as the first certified Android Device to play Playstation Games from Sony running 1 ghz Snapdragon Scorpion.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso..._play-3608.php

There are tons of devices out there, but also know that Android does have its problems too.

[EspHack]

1gb/month is just 15min of yt for me, get at least 10gb if you can, other than that, seeing what vbetts posted i think you dont need more info xD

[eclap]

galaxy s2 is the best phone on the market at the moment. beats the sensation hands down. can't really see a better phone on the market atm, or in the near future. it's amazing.

[PhazeDelta1]

Originally Posted by eclap

galaxy s2 is the best phone on the market at the moment. beats the sensation hands down. can't really see a better phone on the market atm, or in the near future. it's amazing.

i will agree 100%. if i would of known when i got my htc thunderbolt that this phone was coming to verizon, i would of waited. but i ended up with the second best phone. i love my thunderbolt.

[EspHack]

overal the s2 beats the sensation but at least htc has qHD display = better porn so s2 could be owned for some users(and im talking every guru from here )

[PhazeDelta1]

Originally Posted by EspHack

overal the s2 beats the sensation but at least htc has qHD display = better porn so s2 could be owned for some users(and im talking every guru from here )

i agree with that statement
but pr0n is best watched on the evo 4g

[eclap]

Originally Posted by EspHack

overal the s2 beats the sensation but at least htc has qHD display = better porn so s2 could be owned for some users(and im talking every guru from here )

qhd atm means well... jack all... can't see one advantage of it. the s2 resolution is more than enough. it's super crisp. and the colors/viewing angles are out of this world.

[eclap]

Originally Posted by Firestorm

i agree with that statement
but pr0n is best watched on the evo 4g

just out of curiosity, why is it best on evo 4g?

[EspHack]

hmm i sure do, im waiting them to come with 1280x720 resolution, maybe is because im at nHD right now i want to double it xd

[EspHack]

4g=no load times for porn?

[vbetts]

Sprint's 4g sucks, Wimax has such terrible reception since it's broadcasting on a very very very distant frequency too....

[dcx_badass]

My dad just switched from a HTC Desire HD to a Samsung Galaxy S2 and said the difference is absolutely amazing. Said the Galaxy S2 is awesome (his HTC had loads of problems).

[PhazeDelta1]

Originally Posted by eclap

just out of curiosity, why is it best on evo 4g?

This is just my opinion, but i think the screen on the evo 4g looks alot sharper than any of the other phones i was trying out. But unfortunately verizon dont offer that phone. The thunderbolt an exceptional phone but sometimes i think the screen looks a bit grainy at times.

[eclap]

Originally Posted by EspHack

4g=no load times for porn?

there's wifi and hsdpa (21mb/s). so no lag really...

[eclap]

Originally Posted by dcx_badass

My dad just switched from a HTC Desire HD to a Samsung Galaxy S2 and said the difference is absolutely amazing. Said the Galaxy S2 is awesome (his HTC had loads of problems).

yeah, a couple of my mates have the DHD and said it was so so. a bit laggy. the s2 is a monster, seriously so snappy. some of the games on it are mindblowing. I mean they look better than ps2 games (riptide). I'm also really happy with android market (first time android user coming from symbian and blackberry). all in all it's a great phone and even my iphone mates are blown away with it. they want one

[dcx_badass]

Originally Posted by Firestorm

This is just my opinion, but i think the screen on the evo 4g looks alot sharper than any of the other phones i was trying out. But unfortunately verizon dont offer that phone. The thunderbolt an exceptional phone but sometimes i think the screen looks a bit grainy at times.

Luckily the OP is in the UK so we have the freedom to use whatever phone we want on whatever network we want.

Originally Posted by eclap

yeah, a couple of my mates have the DHD and said it was so so. a bit laggy. the s2 is a monster, seriously so snappy. some of the games on it are mindblowing. I mean they look better than ps2 games (riptide). I'm also really happy with android market (first time android user coming from symbian and blackberry). all in all it's a great phone and even my iphone mates are blown away with it. they want one

The DHD was fine (apart from the problems) for my dad but he doesn't game so wouldn't have noticed that, but he said even just flicking between pictures is much faster etc. And the screen is fantastic.

[PhazeDelta1]

Originally Posted by dcx_badass

Luckily the OP is in the UK so we have the freedom to use whatever phone we want on whatever network we want.

thats one of the things i wish would happen here, but unfortunately it never will. at&t and sprint have some really nice phones. but unless you unlock the phone, thatll be the only way you can use it on different carriers. even then it sometimes has its own issues.

[EspHack]

Originally Posted by eclap

there's wifi and hsdpa (21mb/s). so no lag really...

where is the operator that gives you 21mb/s hsdpa??!! i want it too

if there is wifi, and its a good one, its because your pc is close too, so whats the point on using a phone when the master(porn) machine is there? lol

[PhazeDelta1]

Originally Posted by EspHack

where is the operator that gives you 21mb/s hsdpa??!! i want it too

if there is wifi, and its a good one, its because your pc is close too, so whats the point on using a phone when the master(porn) machine is there? lol

i think it depends on location. the bar that i go to has a really nice wifi set up. im pulling almost 19mb/s the last time i ran speed test on my phone.

[eclap]

I'm at my mates house now and I'm getting 750kbps on HSDPA. It wicked fast.

[humonculus1987]

Originally Posted by vbetts

2.2 froyo is the first android OS that officially supports abode flash(But only on armv7 cpus, which most mid-high end devices have), as well as googles JIT(Just in time compiler) that gives a great performance boost. 2.2 and 2.3 does have some differences, but nothing life changing. For example, Android 2.3 Gingerbread's default format is ext4, which has also shown to give a performance boost for Android seeing that ext4 is a default linux format. 2.3 also has a few other changes and a few new app updates.
Now, updating from 2.2 to 2.3. This is where Android has one of it's problems, fragmentation. Since Android is open source, it is up to the carrier and the manufacturer of the phone to provide updates unless it's a google experience device like Nexus one, Nexus S, or Motorola Xoom. In the case of Google Experience devices, Google provides the updates. There are some devices that have 2.2 and get a 2.3 officially, but then there are some that aren't because of hardware limitations, or just neglect. The HTC Desire is a great example!
HTC Desire runs the same platform that other high end devices ran at the time, a 65nm Snapdragon 1ghz arm v7 neon a8 base cpu with Adreno 200 gpu. HTC used this in a lot other devices, such as the Evo, the Incredible, Nexus One, hd2, and their WP7 devices. However, the Desire in terms of actual hardware is probably the lowest out of all them, seeing the Desire has the least amount of Ram and Rom. Because of this, HTC first decided that Gingerbread was too big for the Desire, but then took back that statement and to give more room on the device, some carriers are even taking off HTC's user interface replacement for Android known as Sense! The HD2 which originally runs Windows Mobile, even has a fully working Gingerbread sense build on it. With that being said, there are communities that make their own roms, fixes, and updates for devices. XDA developers is the biggest one, known for Android, Windows Mobile, WP7, even Ios development now. Problem with this, custom roms require root access to the system, which puts out any type of warranty for your device. But when there are already Gingerbread sense roms created and working on the Desire, well there's the advantage to open source right there!

Now, for what you want there isn't a whole lot. The only one I can think of coming soon with decent specs and qwerty, is the Motorola Droid 3(GSM version is Milestone 3). But, here are the top performance devices now.

HTC Sensation-4.3 Android 2.3 device, with Sense 3.0 running the first generation Dual core Snapdragon @ 1.2 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation-3875.php

Samsung Galaxy SII-4.3 inch Android 2.3 device, with Touchwiz 4 running Samsungs Orion dual core @ 1.2 ghz, beautiful Super AMOLED+ screen too
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i910..._s_ii-3621.php

Motorola Atrix- 4 inch Android 2.2 device(2.3 coming soon) running MotoBlur(Known for problems), on Nvidia Tegra 2 dual core @ 1ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix-3709.php
LG Optimus X2- 4 inch Android 2.3 device running LG's custom UI on it, running TI omap dual core @ 1ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_2x-3598.php

Devices that were high end, and are now considered mid market devices

HTC has too many of them, which all run the same basic platform with a few differences. Snapdragon Scorpion 45nm all running HTC Sense, with Android 2.2-Android 2.3 depending on the device, which range from 3.5"-4.3" screens.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_s-3776.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_incredible_s-3788.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd-3468.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_z-3421.php

Samsung Galaxy S- 4inch Android 2.2(2.3 in areas) running Touchwiz 3, super AMOLED screen running Samsung's Hummingbird @ 1 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-3115.php
(NOTE-There is also a version that is running a single core TI omap a8)

Samsung Nexus S- 4 Inch Android 2.3 directly from Google, curved super AMOLED screen with support from Google running Hummingbird @ 1 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_goog...i9023-3910.php

Motorola Cliq 2- 3.7 inch qwerty slider Android 2.2 with MotoBlur, runnig Ti omap a8 @ 1 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_cliq_2-3454.php

Motorola Milestone 2-3.7 inch qwerty slider, Android 2.2 with Ninjablur, running TI omap a8 @ 1 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_mil...me722-3911.php

Sony Ericsson Xperia X10- 4 inch Android 2.1(Upgradable to 2.3 in August) with Sony's UI replacement and apps, running on Snapdragon 65 nm @ 1 ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...a_x10-2964.php

Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc- 4.2 Android 2.3 running Sony's UI replacement and apps, running on Snapdragon Scorpion 45nm @ 1ghz
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...a_arc-3619.php

Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo-Same as the Arc, but with a 3.7 inch screen instead
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...a_neo-3734.php

Sony Ericsson Xperia Play-4 inch Slider gamepad device running Android 2.3, with Sony's UI replacement as well as the first certified Android Device to play Playstation Games from Sony running 1 ghz Snapdragon Scorpion.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso..._play-3608.php

There are tons of devices out there, but also know that Android does have its problems too.

You got so many things wrong with that post I dont know where to begin.

[vbetts]

How about just telling me then?

[Sever]

Originally Posted by vbetts

How about just telling me then?

LG optimus 2x doesnt run a ti omap setup. it runs a tegra 2. its also still running froyo 2.2, at least until july (same with the atrix, gingerbread in july).

the main improvement in gingerbread for the tegra 2 devices comes in the form of updated drivers for the ulp geforce. the performance improvements range from 10-30% which is handy for the atrix and its higher resolution display (this is from the gingerbread beta testers on xda devs).

cant remember where i read this, but there are also some UI improvements in gingerbread, as well as adding dual core support to more of the core apps.

[vbetts]

Whoops, my bad about the optimus. It's the Thrill that runs the dual core tiomap.