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Dethand
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Default Ram 1600 Mhz vs 1866 Mhz - 04-25-2011, 18:08 | posts: 51 | Location: Miami, FL USA

Hello everybody:

As part of my current build, I have 16Gb of Corsair Vengeance Ram @ 1866Mhz. Every build I see, be it in forums, or magazines, the ram used runs at @1600 Mhz.

Is this mainly a $$ issue? Is there a more technical issue for this?

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Default 04-25-2011, 18:19 | posts: 2,021

Possibly a timing issue?
What timing does yours have compared to the 1600 one?
   
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Default 04-25-2011, 18:20 | posts: 51 | Location: Miami, FL USA

Thanks for the quick reply!

That would make sense.

1600 9-9-9-24

1866 9-10-9-27


Edit: I would lover the timings, if possible, but i'm not sure on how to do it or how far I can take it. So I've refrained from doing it for the time being.

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Default 04-25-2011, 18:31 | posts: 2,021

I don't know much about ram, so I don't know but it might be those 2 have no difference in performance.
Did the others use AMD cpus? As far as I know AMD cpus prefer lower frequencies than Intel cpus.
   
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Default 04-25-2011, 18:34 | posts: 51 | Location: Miami, FL USA

Intel CPUs, I remember the Guru3d review of my own Mobo, sabertooth P67, and also a build on CPU magazine if I remember correctly; along with some poster builds.
   
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Default 04-25-2011, 18:38 | posts: 2,021

Hmm weird, what's the price difference?
   
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Default 04-25-2011, 18:43 | posts: 51 | Location: Miami, FL USA

20$ diffence per 8Gb, so 40$ in my case.
   
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Default 04-25-2011, 18:47 | posts: 4,388 | Location: Spain

urs are still better, but most builds are for gaming and gaming wise ram speed its the less important thing, in fact most games dont show any difference (less than 1% between DDR2 800 and DDR3 1600 last time i checked), and the very few which did, around a 5%.

After all, when processing things, RAM is a slow component which causes a big hole in the CPU, so how long it gets (under a decent level)... its not that important. Also since with freq. also increases latency... not much of a difference.

Also reviewers tend to reuse components so they can reuse benchmarks, i mean, if you change ram/CPU and you had every NVIDIA 4xx benchmarked, now you have to re-do all of them with that ram and cpu...

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Default 04-25-2011, 19:28 | posts: 51 | Location: Miami, FL USA

Copy that. Thanks for all the info and input guys.
   
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Default 04-25-2011, 20:09 | posts: 13,603 | Location: USA

unless you plan on benching, i would get the cheapest of the 2. you really wont notice the difference otherwise.
   
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Default 04-25-2011, 20:15 | posts: 51 | Location: Miami, FL USA

Unfortunately its too late for me lol. but its something to keep in mind. This is far from my last build.
   
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Default 04-25-2011, 20:19 | posts: 13,603 | Location: USA

cool. well its not just benching. things like video, music, and photo editing love faster memory too. and lots of it.
   
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Default 04-26-2011, 16:20 | posts: 51 | Location: Miami, FL USA

Nice. Its not a whole lot of money to begin with, I was curious cause I would see these benchamark bending machines with ram that was lower than mine in Mhz anyways. Thank you for enlightening me.
   
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Default 04-26-2011, 16:29 | posts: 13,603 | Location: USA

they were probably using memory with tighter timings
   
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Default 04-26-2011, 18:13 | posts: 2,760 | Location: Belgium

On an i7 2600K or i5 2500K there is no visible difference at all between 1333 MHz and 2133 MHz in most games, no matter what timings you use. I'm guessing it only starts to make slightly more of a difference @ ultra high resolutions / multiple monitors but I could be wrong. For other apps instead of games, DRAM frequency seems to be more important than timings with only one exception I know of: cinebench, in which C8 is still a little better than C9 for some reason.
   
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Default 04-26-2011, 20:25 | posts: 19,054 | Location: Toronto, Canada

It's mainly a timing thing. However, if it's a CL of 9, the 1866 would be your better bet. I'd only consider the 1600 MHz only if CL8 was used.

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