Do you guys use vsync? - Page 4

RIPROCK · 03-06-2011, 20:19 | posts: 17 | Location: Manchester

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Originally Posted by steve-

Not everyone experiences screen tearing in every game, why can't you just accept that? I've had issues in the past with tearing in DODS with my 4870X2 that would come and go, it wasn't ALWAYS there. I'd format, using different drivers than before, load up the game with vsync off and not have a single issue, it rarely is a problem for me. Then again, on 3rd person games like Mafia II I just leave it on as input lag isn't an issue for me then. I don't care to force triple buffering as I'm not anal and really don't notice it all that often.

Your wrong, no ones perfect, get over it.

Triplebuffering is there to prevent your graphics card/monitor from halving it`s frame rate when it drops to something like 56 fps.It`s a setting that helps you when you`ve switched vsync ON.The only time it`s not worth bothering with is when you can maintain 60 fps or greater at all times on a 60hz monitor.Otherwise ANY time you even slightly dip below 60 you`ll get massive spikes as your frame rate halves.

Saifz · 03-06-2011, 20:32 | posts: 489 | Location: Toronto Canada

urghh the big problem im facing with triplebuffer and vsync is the input lag. I tried putting 0 or 1 in the pre rendered ahead but it only helped a little bit

Black_ice_Spain · 03-06-2011, 20:40 | posts: 4,153 | Location: Spain

No, i dont perceive any gain on image quality, i feel lag in some games and with triple buffer i lose FPS's

Cyberdyne · *Last edited by Cyberdyne; 03-06-2011 at 21:44.*

Even with triple buffering it annoys me in FPS. I am the kind of person who sets his mouse to use a 1000hz polling rate for that tiny bit of an edge, when I move my mouse I want to know exactly where it will end up on screen without even actually watching it go there. Stems from competitive gaming.

Krogtheclown · 03-06-2011, 21:40 | posts: 909 | Location: Illinois

Cards run allot cooler with vsync on

aayman_farzand · 03-06-2011, 21:44 | posts: 718

You guys shouldn't be using VSYNC for competitive play anyway.

I use it for SP only, for MP no VSYNC but I'll use the ingame FPS capping method if available.

Cyberdyne · 03-06-2011, 21:46 | posts: 1,263 | Location: USA, Pennsylvania

I was the only one who said that. You play competitive enough where you need that perfect lack of input lag, it begins to annoy you outside of playing competitively, lol.

cheesebeard- · 03-06-2011, 22:40 | posts: 3,400 | Location: New England - M@ss

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Originally Posted by Krogtheclown

Cards run allot cooler with vsync on

Well duh, they aren't working as hard hence the lower temps. I always laugh when I see people complain about low GPU usage when they've got vsync on. Did I say laugh? I meant facepalm.

sykozis · 03-06-2011, 23:07 | posts: 13,484 | Location: US East Coast

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Originally Posted by Raiga

Give me Money, give me money for a 120 hertz display..Not everyone has a 120 hertz display, not many can afford it, and in my timezone there is no 120 hertz display in any of the stores..

yes, can you PM me a video of game with more than 60 FPS..and fast camera moving Horizontally. Which doesn't have screen tearing..

I have a Samsung SyncMaster 2333HD and Samsung SyncMaster EX2220. The 2333HD is a 23" Native 1080P LCD, and the EX2220 is a 21" Native 1080P LED. The EX2220 I got on clearance for $140. You don't have to spend a lot of money to get a decent display. Sales work wonders.

As for the video....sorry, all I have is a MiniDV cam and no way to connect to my PC....BUT, if you're into MMO's....World of Warcraft covers what you're asking for, specifically, the end-game content as it requires a lot of quick movements and camera angle changes. A fight referred to by WoW players as "The Princes" would provide the best example as you're fighting 3 "bosses" that change focus while trying to dodge multiple effects that cause damage, requiring the camera angle to change constantly while moving around.

qqiiipp · **Memory**: 2x2GB DDR2 5.5.5.15

I always use V-sync ON no matter if there is FPS loss. I don't really care about higher frames as long as it play smooth i don't care. Also to prevent screen tearing and to reduse the GPU usage when its not needed, which also reduse the temps.

Redemption80 · 03-07-2011, 01:04 | posts: 13,412 | Location: Glasgow

Isn't it nice to see people trying to force personal opinion as fact, good stuff

Have to laugh at people who still think tearing only occurs when framerate goes higher than your refresh rate, it doesn't work like that, and i've played games with no tearing at 100fps and others with lots of tearing at 25fps.

If i played MP FPS's i wouldn't use it, but when your on them image quality is of lower importance than in SP gaming.

In Single Player i don't just dislike tearing, most importantly i cannot game when the framerate is inconsistent, a solid 60fps is much smoother than 60-100ps, and many times i will use VSync to cap my framerate at 50 and sometimes even 30fps, as overall its just much better looking, and easier on the eye.

AshCation · 03-07-2011, 01:10 | posts: 175 | Location: Brazil

Yes , or screen tearing kill me :l

I dont know if i lose fps or image quality , I never played with it off.

Kolt · 03-07-2011, 02:08 | posts: 694 | Location: Virginia Beach, VA

Never really have used it. In most games that I have, it's caused horrible mouse lag (Fallout 3 for example) until forced off via control panel. I eventually just globally forced it off, and have been happy since. I don't notice any tearing at all. You get used to it.

Krogtheclown · 03-07-2011, 02:24 | posts: 909 | Location: Illinois

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Originally Posted by steve-

Well duh, they aren't working as hard hence the lower temps. I always laugh when I see people complain about low GPU usage when they've got vsync on. Did I say laugh? I meant facepalm.

Gee thanks Captain obvious! "they aren't working as hard hence the lower temps"

Yea thanks I just started building PC's today thank god you are here to help

Quixz · 03-07-2011, 02:45 | posts: 1,232 | Location: England : Birmingham

I can't stand screen tearing, the only game i can play without V sync is Quakelive, for some reason with this game i can't see any tearing even though it's running at 120fps!

cheesebeard- · 03-07-2011, 02:50 | posts: 3,400 | Location: New England - M@ss

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Originally Posted by Krogtheclown

Yea thanks I just started building PC's today thank god you are here to help

Well that explains it then!

zomg sarcasm? ohnos

alanm · 03-07-2011, 03:34 | posts: 4,958

Yep, since Fermi I've always used vsync, and thats simply to keep temps down. I had found that even old games can heat up my 470 when FPS is uncapped.

Krogtheclown · 03-07-2011, 03:51 | posts: 909 | Location: Illinois

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Originally Posted by steve-

Well that explains it then!

zomg sarcasm? ohnos

Yes that would be sarcasm. Sorry Mate!

sykozis · 03-07-2011, 03:55 | posts: 13,484 | Location: US East Coast

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Originally Posted by Redemption80

Have to laugh at people who still think tearing only occurs when framerate goes higher than your refresh rate, it doesn't work like that, and i've played games with no tearing at 100fps and others with lots of tearing at 25fps.

Sounds like you played WoW with an HD4850 after the "Burning Crusade" expansion pack.... Framerate made zero difference for me....had problems with tearing and corruption whether it was at 30fps or 300fps....

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Originally Posted by alanm

Yep, since Fermi I've always used vsync, and thats simply to keep temps down. I had found that even old games can heat up my 470 when FPS is uncapped.

That happens when you use a toaster oven for a graphics card =X

Nerdness · 03-07-2011, 04:27 | posts: 63

Nope, triple buffering is all I need. I get minimal tearing with that enabled.

cricket bones · 03-07-2011, 04:38 | posts: 496 | Location: Toronto, Canada

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Originally Posted by Nerdness

Nope, triple buffering is all I need. I get minimal tearing with that enabled.

Triple Buffering is pointless without vsync turned on.

GenClaymore · 03-07-2011, 04:48 | posts: 5,077 | Location: Michigan,usa

I used It with triple buffering forced thru D3D override, I dont like seeing graphics tearing is why I use it, And Forced TB get rid of the cons of Vsync usage.

Nerdness · 03-07-2011, 04:55 | posts: 63

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Originally Posted by cricket bones

Triple Buffering is pointless without vsync turned on.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2794/1

Read it

NOTE: D3DOverrider is needed and works for me. I definitely tell a visual difference with it on versus off with VSync disabled (and I'm running between 150-200FPS in COD:BO).

Mufflore · 03-07-2011, 05:04 | posts: 9,499 | Location: UK

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Originally Posted by Nerdness

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2794/1

Read it

Without vsync you get tearing.
With vsync you dont.

Without vsync you get full framerate.
With vsync framerate gets cut in half if vsync cannot be reached.

To get round the problems with vsync halving the framerate, buffers are used so that the GPU can keep on rendering frames while displaying another frame.
These are double and triple buffering.

So without vsync, there is no need for triple buffering because with no vsync the GPU doesnt ever have to wait, it throws out frames as fast as it can.

Triple buffering is for use with vsync.

Infinity7_00 · 03-07-2011, 05:05 | posts: 578 | Location: USA west coast

What brand of monitors do you have to use to get the tearing? I never get that on my Samsung no matter what I do. It seems like if you have certain brands of monitors then you'll hafta use vsync to be happy with em.