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Default good cooler ? - 12-30-2010, 17:13 | posts: 259 | Location: Montreal

is that a good cooler for my i7 920 if im planning to go near 4ghz ?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-010-_-Product


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Default 12-30-2010, 17:50 | posts: 1,394 | Location: Michigan

It's ok. The determining factor is what voltage it takes to run at 4GHz stable.

The D-14 or Silver Arrow provide better cooling for a similar price.
   
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Default 12-30-2010, 18:26 | posts: 10,226 | Location: Toledo Ohio

I've got the Dyantron Genius 120mm cooler. Granted, I don't have an i7, but with Arctic Silver 5 I've taken my 435 to 3.6ghz stable. I could probably take it higher with a newer chipset. I think I spent around $30USD for it on Newegg.

If you're gonna spend around that much, you can't go wrong with a Noctua cooler.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16835608019

If you want to spend more,
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16835608020

But at that point, might as well go pure watercooling.

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Default 12-30-2010, 18:34 | posts: 259 | Location: Montreal

i want something that takes the less place as possible and the best coolin as possible , the reason is because with my 2 6950 commin + antec 900 + the size of my asus rampage II gene , the room is kinda short ... thats why the corsair was a good issue for me since the rad can be fixed on the back of my case ( where i have a 120mm fan i can remove )
   
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Default 12-30-2010, 18:55 | posts: 1,329 | Location: The Netherlands

Go with the H70, it's the succesor to the H50
   
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Default 12-30-2010, 20:01 | posts: 230 | Location: Tallahassee, FL

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Go with the H70, it's the succesor to the H50
Not worth the $100 price tag. Hands down it's a ripoff.

I'd get a Scythe Yasya. It matches a D-14 and it's $20 cheaper.
   
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Default 12-30-2010, 20:26 | posts: 10,226 | Location: Toledo Ohio

Here's the Dynatron I was talking about,
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16835114100

About as much as I paid for it.
   
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Not worth the $100 price tag. Hands down it's a ripoff.

I'd get a Scythe Yasya. It matches a D-14 and it's $20 cheaper.
Can you show some reviews that matches the Yasha to the D-14?
   
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Default 12-30-2010, 23:13 | posts: 259 | Location: Montreal

well i dont know if its better or not , but like i said , my space is precious into that case .. and the d-14 is ENORMOUS ! im looking for a heatsink that can do 3.6-4 ghz and the smaller possible .
   
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Default 12-31-2010, 01:07 | posts: 650 | Location: Qatar

Thermalright Venomous X Black :thumbsup: or the newer one so that you can use all the Memory slots, Thermalright Archon.
   
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Thumbs up 12-31-2010, 03:21 | posts: 164 | Location: Canada

I think the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus for $29.99 is a good "bang-for-the-$$$" and should get you safely near your goal of 4GHz.

Newegg - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065

Review with your particular CPU - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-10.html

Guide to OCing that i7 920 - http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...920-930-a.html

I have a Scythe MUGEN-2 keeping my 920 from melting but I do believe Scythe has discontinued it and it's like double the size of the Hyper 212.

My Mugen 2.



212 on a MATX board from a system I built for a friend.



Good Luck!

***Update*** It seems the MUGEN-2 is still alive! It has been renamed, Scythe SCMG-2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835185142 and sells for $39.99.

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Default 12-31-2010, 05:26 | posts: 1,817 | Location: Only the best AU

Thermalright Archon king dog atm followed by the Silver arrow then the Notcua D14, take your pic
   
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Default 12-31-2010, 06:59 | posts: 259 | Location: Montreal

so in your oppininon the cooler master 212 would do better job than the first i posted from corsair ?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...=corsair%20h50

well its cheaper tho O.o
   
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Thumbs up 12-31-2010, 16:13 | posts: 164 | Location: Canada

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so in your oppininon the cooler master 212 would do better job than the first i posted from corsair ?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...=corsair%20h50

well its cheaper tho O.o
If the price of an CPU cooler is a major concern then consider this, the Corsair is $95 delivered depending on where you live and other taxes.
The CM 212 is $37 and some change, delivered. *Buy.com has it on for $28.43 and FREE shipping!

I love Corsair products, especially their power supplies but I think the H50 is really over-priced for it's performance value but not so for its build quality. I haven't read anywhere of one leaking yet anyways.

The CM 212 is very quiet and, like I said before, it's a great bang for the $$$ and will bring you to your 4GHz. If you plan to OC higher down the road then I'd cough up the $$$ and go with johnny87au's suggestion on the Thermalright Archon. Here's a review - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...ht-archon.html Some of the drawbacks were the 170mm height and the price tag of the Archon.

Check this link (it's nearly a year old but good info all the same) it compares 10 air coolers for the 1156 but most also work on the 1366 i7 CPU.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...sink,2535.html

Remember also, thermal paste quality and how it's applied will be nearly if not more important than the cpu cooler your choose. I ran about 5 test before finding this :+: pattern worked best with my combination of CPU/Cooler.


Again, good luck!

***Added an interesting slew of CPU cooler comparisons***

Results of the CM 212 Plus - http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...id=2419&page=5

Results of the H50 - http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...id=2564&page=5

Results of the Thermalright Silver Arrow - http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...id=2568&page=5

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Default 12-31-2010, 17:31 | posts: 259 | Location: Montreal

ok aight the 212 it will be ! and what thermal paste should i buy?
   
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Thumbs up 12-31-2010, 19:13 | posts: 164 | Location: Canada

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ok aight the 212 it will be ! and what thermal paste should i buy?
I use Arctic Silver 5 for a long time because it's sold at most computer stores and easy to find online and not too expensive. It's a high quality, high density poly-synthetic silver compound. A 3.5gram tube usually around $10 or less. Keep in mind this stuff has a curing period before you can start to crank up the overclocking. I let my installs with this stuff go for half a day before OCing. Even Arctic Silver recommends a 200 hr "breaking in period". I don't have that much patience sorry!

I'm now using Tuniq TX-2 because I was given it to test and so far I think it's a decent TIM. It sells for $6 to $10 for a 3.5gram tube and that's enough to do 10 or more CPU installs depending on how much you use each time of course.

One other TIM that many boast about is the Indigo Xtreme YouTube Video
Long 36 second annoying into! A 2-pack kit is around $20.

The CM 212 will come with a tube of CM thermal compound. Not sure about it's qualities and I already had a tube of TX-2 so I never bothered to use it.

I still say the Arctic Silver 5 is a good choice even if it's been around for a longtime and many people think it's "dated".

A comparison of 80 different TIM's - Google

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Default 01-01-2011, 16:34 | posts: 2,756 | Location: Belgium

If you're looking for silence I'd recommend Noctua NH-C14 with two 140mm fans. For achieving the lowest temps, clearly Thermalright Archon with two 140mm fans is the new winner but it measures 170mm in height, so if that's a problem then it's Thermalright Silver Arrow. Not having much empty space left inside the case is no biggie as long as there's still good enough airflow on all heated surfaces. Other excellent choices are Prolimatech Megahalems / Super Mega, and Scythe Mugen 2.
   
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Default 01-02-2011, 00:25 | posts: 1,817 | Location: Only the best AU

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I use Arctic Silver 5 for a long time because it's sold at most computer stores and easy to find online and not too expensive. It's a high quality, high density poly-synthetic silver compound. A 3.5gram tube usually around $10 or less. Keep in mind this stuff has a curing period before you can start to crank up the overclocking. I let my installs with this stuff go for half a day before OCing. Even Arctic Silver recommends a 200 hr "breaking in period". I don't have that much patience sorry!

I'm now using Tuniq TX-2 because I was given it to test and so far I think it's a decent TIM. It sells for $6 to $10 for a 3.5gram tube and that's enough to do 10 or more CPU installs depending on how much you use each time of course.

One other TIM that many boast about is the Indigo Xtreme YouTube Video
Long 36 second annoying into! A 2-pack kit is around $20.

The CM 212 will come with a tube of CM thermal compound. Not sure about it's qualities and I already had a tube of TX-2 so I never bothered to use it.

I still say the Arctic Silver 5 is a good choice even if it's been around for a longtime and many people think it's "dated".

A comparison of 80 different TIM's - Google

Cheers!
As5 is rubbish compared to the new TIMs, use something like Shin-Etsu or Mx-3, using these products over AS5 is like a 6c improvement..
   
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Default 01-02-2011, 00:56 | posts: 1,329 | Location: The Netherlands

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As5 is rubbish compared to the new TIMs, use something like Shin-Etsu or Mx-3, using these products over AS5 is like a 6c improvement..
As we all know a 5 C degree difference in TIM, or air coolers itself, is a big difference. That would amount to the difference a Noctua D14 gives to a stock H50 and can amount to a lot of money. So, do you have any reference why we are using expensive coolers with a difference of about 5 C to the next one when TIM can give a 5 C difference also and can save us a lot of money.

Please use links to reputable sites.
   
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As we all know a 5 C degree difference in TIM, or air coolers itself, is a big difference. That would amount to the difference a Noctua D14 gives to a stock H50 and can amount to a lot of money. So, do you have any reference why we are using expensive coolers with a difference of about 5 C to the next one when TIM can give a 5 C difference also and can save us a lot of money.

Please use links to reputable sites.
http://67.90.82.13/forums/showthread.php?t=263083
All i could find but i know there is a updated one with the latest products such as, indigo xtreme, mx2,mx3, shin-etsu..
   
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Different TIMs will give some temp difference but not 6C. However, just watched a vid on YouTube about the Indigo Extreme TIM that looks very interesting but expensive!

http://www.indigo-xtreme.com/

http://www.indigo-xtreme.com/images/skineelabschart.jpg


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http://67.90.82.13/forums/showthread.php?t=263083
All i could find but i know there is a updated one with the latest products such as, indigo xtreme, mx2,mx3, shin-etsu..
I don't see the Artic Silver 5 in there, just the ceramique. Oh and nice to see you believe that thermal compounds behave the same at sub zero, the way xs tested it, to any real world behaviour at + 60 ~ 80 degrees lol
   
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Different TIMs will give some temp difference but not 6C. However, just watched a vid on YouTube about the Indigo Extreme TIM that looks very interesting but expensive!

http://www.indigo-xtreme.com/

http://www.indigo-xtreme.com/images/skineelabschart.jpg

The best is still toothpaste. But no TIM will ever give you 5 C for nothing
   
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atlas toothpaste? U just rocked yourself mate, look at indigo extreme @ 66 compared to As5 which is 71C, i believe thats a 5c difference..
   
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atlas toothpaste? U just rocked yourself mate, look at indigo extreme @ 66 compared to As5 which is 71C, i believe thats a 5c difference..
Heh?

I'm 'rocking' myself? I just looked at this graph and just wondered... Damn, Idigo is better than the rest of the world

Until I saw the source of the tests, you guess it... It's TATADAAAA Indigo

If you ever bother to look at real tests (especially my 'rocked' toothpatse' tests) http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm.

You are really serious? Believing any tests produced by the manufactur is just plain stupid.
   
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