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Default 03-12-2011, 20:50 | posts: 1,002 | Location: Cyprus, Limassol

Von Dach whats the benefits to have Multimedia Class Scheduler disable?
   
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Default 03-13-2011, 00:50 | posts: 4,804 | Location: Belgium

I'm wondering what the registry tweak "SystemResponsiveness" on 0 does. I've always had some kind of feeling that Windows 7 (even though my framerate is fine, if not better then on XP), feels slightly "sluggish".
   
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Default 03-13-2011, 01:34 | posts: 1,827 | Location: Finland

@Von Dach

Defrag:
'UltimateDefrag' to be a bit hardcore. I'd look at 'Auslogics' creations.

Does the job in seconds compared to any other defrag.

W7-SP1:
btw, there seems to be advantage over 'Windows 7 - Service Pack 1' over audio sampling. The new fixes they have now implemented seems to enable
REALLY low level initialization and this means when we used to see error messages over games like 'IWN' 'BG' etc old gaming we now can clean launch
them and they will work straight out of box like on Windows XP systems or older Windows 98.

However, this apply's ONLY, if you got 1 audio card in box. Meaning for example AMD cards has 1 audio(HDMI) + usually Motherboard has 1 audio.
So, either of these needs to go in effect to make it work. (I am not sure would an device manager disable be simply enough, but I do know when
utilizing AMD audio alone it will work in incredibly amount of old applications and games we have).

(Also should be noted that some of the first page diagnostic tasks which are disabled 'like the reliability "manager"' will not enable detection of when the
new audio is needed by older application and so the application will fail because of these as otherwise the diagnostics would of issue the correction for next launch.)

WinSAT [SP1]:
There is an change to earlier concept of 'clean' the SP1 corrects the detection of amount of read not to be unlocked, but better stable with command:
Code:
Winsat formal -restart never
It is still affect as before, but in new one it can also read 'previous states' and, if an previous state is higher than new state the retest is issued
differently while old results are at the system. The 'clean' command still apply when switching from something like Catalyst v10.12 -> v11.xx driver
versions on NVIDIA side this has no affect unless coming from 19x.xx series of drivers to 2xx.xx series of drivers. As in these versions the feature tests are required to be redone.

Turn off Remote Differential Compression [SP1]:
This no longer apply the differential hash checking has improved so much and current hardware handles it really well. This actually reduces the lag while it's in system.

Microsoft Media Player - Disable the Sharing for good:
Code:
REG ADD "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Preferences\HME" /v "DisableDiscovery" /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f
This would completely disable the sharing service. Removing the key would enable it. (also possible by gpedit, but that's bad advice since not all editions of Windows vista/7 comes with these tools.)

Clean-up:
There is an new separated cleanup on my topic of Catalyst driver. It still does do a lot better result than old v3.91 and it has corrected the issues previously mentioned. Should not be used prior to SP1 installation, but if done part by part and legacy is skipped can be done prior to SP1 install. However the 'Automated' selection does do legacy drivers also.

This clean-up can be run in any state of machine. Even drivers installed including NVIDIA or ATI/AMD.

Let's do a little networking:

IPv6-Throughput protocols:

Disable:
you do not fully disable IPv6 and/or HTTP Throughput protocols by simply unchecking the 'IPv6' on connection properties. You do following 'ipv6-tunneling-disable.cmd' and enable script OR simply paste these to Command Prompt with Admin rights:
Code:
netsh interface teredo set state disable
netsh interface 6to4 set state disable disable
netsh interface isatap set state disable
REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\TCPIP6\Parameters" /v "EnableICSIPv6" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\TCPIP6\Parameters" /v "DisabledComponents" /t REG_DWORD /d 255 /f
and then disable the IPv6 on Connection properties. After reboot this your device manager will show yellow protocols which just means they are
unfunctional these devices can be disabled, if you want will do no harm except in scenario that you want IPv6 back you have to reenable them
before enabling the Tunneling protocols back.

Extra notes: 'Client for Microsoft Networks' is not required to anything, but it also disabled some component at login which seems to keep connection mode stable.

Enable back:
Code:
netsh interface teredo set state default
netsh interface 6to4 set state default default
netsh interface isatap set state enable
REG DELETE "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\TCPIP6\Parameters" /v "EnableICSIPv6" /f
REG DELETE "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\TCPIP6\Parameters" /v "DisabledComponents" /f
reenable IF disabled device manager services/devices and reboot the machine.

New windows Vista/7 network tweaking over netsh:

The TCP window size limitation is questionable.

concept:
netsh int tcp set heuristics
(controls weither Microsoft regulates the connection and below 'autotuninglevel' cannot be applied unless heuristics are disabled. Options: Disable/Enabled)
netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=
(Options: disable (keeps the 65536 window size good for rapid HTTP and gaming latencies), normal (allows grow beyond capabilities so after large data transfers this would be way too huge to HTTP or gaming smaller data transfers unless learned by heuristics before), restricted (allows limited grow between 65536-524288 very good option for regular todays 2-8Mbit DSLs), highlyrestricted (allows limited grow between 65536-262144 extremely good for 10Mbit-100Mbit ethernet connections or highspeed DSL, experimental (This is something more of an split to jump on TCP window, but results very bad unless you got 1Gbit connection))
netsh int tcp set global rss=
(Controls network process multithreading, This is lower the latency on gaming/FTP or other singled out connections while disabled, but increase the latency over multiple connections like HTTP. When enabled will lower the latency over multiple connections made to different servers or by as acting as an server. Options: Enable/Disable)
netsh int tcp set global dca=
(Controls how cache/memory is accessed by network, ideally this would always be enabled so that network could get high latency by RAM, but there is scenarios where this is extremely bad as it also while enabled routes all transfers through this method. Advice would be disable for regular browsing enable for larger data transfers like FTP, SSH, P2P, Online Gaming, Options Enable/Disable)
netsh int tcp set global chimney=
(Offloads processing to network adapter instead of CPU, if capable. This is pretty useless with major usage is in personal LAN environments when overhead is way beyond regular transfer rates and even then it's slow. Options: Enable/Disable/Automatic)
netsh int tcp set global congestionprovider=
(New way to give full control to your ISP how dataflow is controller. Idiotic feature should never be used on my opinion, but it might come advantage on some areas where latency is very low and exact setups to device are required (wireless also goes with this). Options: CTCP/Disable)
netsh int tcp set security mpp=
(Machine memory protection scheme. Default is disabled, but this option should avoid the idea of bad HTTP server executing example flash/js/java on memory badly and comes rapidly nessessary soon enough, but mainly currently for servers. Options: Enable/Disable)



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I think that's ok update for now. See, when we get new features up and running better (hopefully damn soon) we get some little better tweaks for
current generation systems. Sad fact is that Windows Vista/7 core itself is so damn bad that it's almost no worth to optimize as we all know the
basement is rotten as hell doesn't make much sense to try to find link for improve stability which surface is just a scratch of issues.

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Default 03-13-2011, 21:45 | posts: 2,756 | Location: Belgium

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'UltimateDefrag' to be a bit hardcore.
DiskTrix' manual file placement floats my boat, especially when combined with Diskeeper's I-FAAST feature.
   
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This tweak made my DPC rise from 0~10 to about 40+ on idle.
   
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Default 03-15-2011, 02:42 | posts: 1,827 | Location: Finland

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DiskTrix' manual file placement floats my boat, especially when combined with Diskeeper's I-FAAST feature.
absolute no. Diskkeeper developed exactly 1 good feature and that is the OLD OLD version of diskkeeper '709 [Last existing build][manual metadata]'

^ This is the only diskkeeper which is ideal and only for metadata patching. Not to defrag, if paid software is usable Perfect Disk is only solution to go, but even
on this kind of thinking 'Auslogics' defrag will do 10 times faster exact same result when you have free 'Perfect Disk' run ones the system root data to start of the
system and they are developign 'optimize system files' feature in auslogics so soon all these defragment utilities are unnessessary comparing to auslogics.
The do have 1 mistake and that is 'dynamic drives' and these will still require Perfect Disk or other solution.

As what goes to 'DiskTrix' Well UltimateDefrag is one of the only defragmention software which I do respect for the ideas they had of manual
styles defragmention and used decision over how to defrag and I have to say they are really good, but NOW as in 2011 we have 10 times faster and
'Raxco' has gone way beyond levels almost catching up what O&O Software began very long time ago (which again usually under offline data corrupts
partitions I might add but the API they used was really good looking). As for System files I could even use 'rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks'-command
scheduled alone when I am not on computer instead of any of these paid softwares.

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This tweak made my DPC rise from 0~10 to about 40+ on idle.
That would be because current software we have is relaying that not all is processed through it, but by the system. Same as game developer saying
'we don't need to build that as users never sees it'. However, idea there is actually better than what we use even with the jump on DPC as result is
cleaner, but then again quality against speed is never good to be compared.

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absolute no. Diskkeeper developed exactly 1 good feature and that is the OLD OLD version of diskkeeper '709 [Last existing build][manual metadata]'

^ This is the only diskkeeper which is ideal and only for metadata patching. Not to defrag, if paid software is usable Perfect Disk is only solution to go, but even
on this kind of thinking 'Auslogics' defrag will do 10 times faster exact same result when you have free 'Perfect Disk' run ones the system root data to start of the
system and they are developign 'optimize system files' feature in auslogics so soon all these defragment utilities are unnessessary comparing to auslogics.
The do have 1 mistake and that is 'dynamic drives' and these will still require Perfect Disk or other solution.

As what goes to 'DiskTrix' Well UltimateDefrag is one of the only defragmention software which I do respect for the ideas they had of manual
styles defragmention and used decision over how to defrag and I have to say they are really good, but NOW as in 2011 we have 10 times faster and
'Raxco' has gone way beyond levels almost catching up what O&O Software began very long time ago (which again usually under offline data corrupts
partitions I might add but the API they used was really good looking). As for System files I could even use 'rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks'-command
scheduled alone when I am not on computer instead of any of these paid softwares.
Well, I think all of the features in Diskeeper 2010 are truly amazing lol. For starters, I'm very fond of InvisiTasking because it makes the program run completely invisible. I've experienced no visible performance loss, ever.

Secondly, I can't imagine life without IntelliWrite. Quite frankly, even with write caching enabled, copying multiple large files all at the same time onto a single harddrive used to be a real pain in the rear before I started using Diskeeper.

Thirdly, automatic defrag always starts to defrag my files as soon as possible, no hesitation whatsoever. Once again, it does so without ever slowing the system down (I used to be extremely sceptical about this myself but now I feel like a noob for not having tried it a little sooner than I could have).

Fourthly, I-FAAST optimizes my file placement for me whenever I don't have the time nor patience to manually place my files using UltimateDefrag.

And finally, HyperFast is useful especially when running two SSDs in RAID 0 due to the absence of TRIM in RAID.

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Well, I think all of the features in Diskeeper 2010 are truly amazing lol. For starters, I'm very fond of InvisiTasking because it makes the program run completely invisible. I've experienced no visible performance loss, ever.

Secondly, I can't imagine life without IntelliWrite. Quite frankly, even with write caching enabled, copying multiple large files all at the same time onto a single harddrive used to be a real pain in the rear before I started using Diskeeper.

Thirdly, automatic defrag always starts to defrag my files as soon as possible, no hesitation whatsoever. Once again, it does so without ever slowing the system down (I used to be extremely sceptical about this myself but now I feel like a noob for not having tried it a little sooner than I could have).

Fourthly, I-FAAST optimizes my file placement for me whenever I don't have the time nor patience to manually place my files using UltimateDefrag.

And finally, HyperFast is useful especially when running two SSDs in RAID 0 due to the absence of TRIM in RAID.
It's just opinion and what I've checked the diskkeeper software was in my eyes totally worthless after that specific mentioned build. The background
tasking is actually really conditional depending what you do. There's really bad scenarios there and it works flawless for 'regular user' basis.

If I say that word 'automatic' is something that doesn't belong to computer world. Would most likely also explain my dislike to these ideas, but then again
on diskkeeper case it's not exactly true as diskkeeper background service actually works incredible good.

My point was on there what is needed, what would be fast scenario in system with no extra services installed and do the job for ideal performance
out of OS. On SSD cases this doesn't even matter defragmenting is more to harm hardware than speed it up, but indexing the SSD is another case.

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Default 03-15-2011, 23:35 | posts: 608 | Location: Quebec, Canada

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Von Dach one question about TweakNow RegCleaner 2011.

Is it safe to delete the unsafe entries from registry that TweakNow detects?

Or it's only safe to delete the safe entries/problems?
Yes it's ALL safe. I do it almost everyday.

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Von Dach whats the benefits to have Multimedia Class Scheduler disable?
You don't have double standard, double system (level) of prioritization.

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I'm wondering what the registry tweak "SystemResponsiveness" on 0 does. I've always had some kind of feeling that Windows 7 (even though my framerate is fine, if not better then on XP), feels slightly "sluggish".
0= 10%, you can't give MMCSS all cpu power, 10% is kept for background tasks. If you disable MMCSS, 100% cpu can be given to who you want.
"sluggish": disable Desktop Window Manager Session Manager service, it feel a lot less sluggish.

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DiskTrix' manual file placement floats my boat, especially when combined with Diskeeper's I-FAAST feature.
Thanks for the head-on on Diskeeper! Added to the compendium, I use it too now in tandem with UltimateDefrag!

Updates:

CPU/PCI-E Clock Drive, CPU/MCH Clock Skew: keep them to the lowest possible (lower is better)

I won't touch more about overclocking, the web is full of ressources on the topic. Maybe the best community on it is here: Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

Disable integrated audio device if you use an add-on soundcard

Disable unused audio devices (like ATI HDMI) in Device Manager

Windows Features
Control Panel> Programs> Programs and Features> Turn Windows features on or off

You can turn off everything EXCEPT:
  • Windows Media Player/Center (if you use it)
  • Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5.1 (even if you installed .Net 4, you still need it)
  • Windows Fax and Scan (if you use it)
  • Windows Search (Disabled in Services below, turning it off here is bad idea, it remove search window in explorer)
Stop non-essential services with the help of SMART (Service Management And RealEasy Tweaking) Utility v2.0
Consult Black Viper's Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Service Configurations to know more what is best for you.
Personally I apply SMART Advanced Tweaks because I don't share files via network between my computers (I use eSata HDD and USB Flash drives).
Then I edit all services not keep Automatic Startup by SMART as Manual, EXCEPT:
  • Multimedia Class Scheduler Disabled
  • Remote Registry Disabled
  • Windows Search Disabled
The result after reboot look like this:
Code:
Name					Status  Startup Type
COM+ Event System			Started	Automatic
Cryptographic Services			Started	Automatic
DCOM Server Process Launcher		Started	Automatic
DHCP Client				Started	Automatic
Group Policy Client			Started	Automatic
Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v4.0.30319_X64	Started	Automatic (Delayed Start)
Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v4.0.30319_X86	Started	Automatic (Delayed Start)
Network Location Awareness		Started	Automatic
Network Store Interface Service		Started	Automatic
Plug and Play				Started	Automatic
PnkBstrA				Started	Automatic
Power					Started	Automatic
Print Spooler				Started	Automatic
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)		Started	Automatic
RPC Endpoint Mapper			Started	Automatic
Security Accounts Manager		Started	Automatic
Server					Started	Automatic
Shell Hardware Detection		Started	Automatic
Software Protection				Automatic
Superfetch				Started	Automatic
System Event Notification Service	Started	Automatic
Task Scheduler				Started	Automatic
User Profile Service			Started	Automatic
Windows Audio				Started	Automatic
Windows Audio Endpoint Builder		Started	Automatic
Windows Event Log			Started	Automatic
Windows Management Instrumentation	Started	Automatic
Workstation				Started	Automatic
Multimedia Class Scheduler			Disabled
Remote Registry					Disabled
Windows Search					Disabled
ActiveX Installer (AxInstSV)			Manual
Adaptive Brightness				Manual
AMD External Events Utility			Manual
Application Experience				Manual
Application Identity				Manual
Application Information				Manual
Application Layer Gateway Service		Manual
Application Management				Manual
ASP.NET State Service				Manual
Background Intelligent Transfer Service		Manual
Base Filtering Engine				Manual
BitLocker Drive Encryption Service		Manual
Block Level Backup Engine Service		Manual
Bluetooth Support Service			Manual
BranchCache					Manual
Certificate Propagation				Manual
CNG Key Isolation				Manual
COM+ System Application				Manual
Computer Browser				Manual
Credential Manager				Manual
Desktop Window Manager Session Manager		Manual
Diagnostic Policy Service			Manual
Diagnostic Service Host				Manual
Diagnostic System Host				Manual
Disk Defragmenter				Manual
Distributed Link Tracking Client		Manual
Distributed Transaction Coordinator		Manual
DNS Client					Manual
Encrypting File System (EFS)			Manual
Extensible Authentication Protocol		Manual
Function Discovery Provider Host	Started	Manual
Function Discovery Resource Publication	Started	Manual
Health Key and Certificate Management		Manual
HomeGroup Listener				Manual
HomeGroup Provider			Started	Manual
Human Interface Device Access		Started	Manual
IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules		Manual
InstallDriver Table Manager			Manual
Intel(R) PROSet Monitoring Service		Manual
Interactive Services Detection			Manual
Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)		Manual
IP Helper					Manual
IPsec Policy Agent				Manual
KtmRm for Distributed Transaction Coordinator	Manual
Link-Layer Topology Discovery Mapper		Manual
Logitech Bluetooth Service			Manual
Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v2.0.50727_X64	Manual
Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v2.0.50727_X86	Manual
Microsoft Antimalware Service			Manual
Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Service		Manual
Microsoft Network Inspection			Manual
Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider		Manual
Net.Msmq Listener Adapter			Manual
Net.Pipe Listener Adapter			Manual
Net.Tcp Listener Adapter			Manual
Net.Tcp Port Sharing Service			Manual
Netlogon					Manual
Network Access Protection Agent			Manual
Network Connections			Started	Manual
Network List Service			Started	Manual
Offline Files					Manual
Parental Controls				Manual
Peer Name Resolution Protocol			Manual
Peer Networking Grouping			Manual
Peer Networking Identity Manager		Manual
Performance Counter DLL Host			Manual
Performance Logs & Alerts			Manual
PnP-X IP Bus Enumerator				Manual
PNRP Machine Name Publication Service		Manual
Portable Device Enumerator Service	Started	Manual
Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support	Manual
Program Compatibility Assistant Service	Started	Manual
Protected Storage			Started	Manual
Quality Windows Audio Video Experience		Manual
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager		Manual
Remote Access Connection Manager		Manual
Remote Desktop Configuration			Manual
Remote Desktop Services				Manual
Remote Desktop Services UserMode Port RedirectorManual
Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator		Manual
Routing and Remote Access			Manual
Secondary Logon					Manual
Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service	Manual
Security Center					Manual
Smart Card					Manual
Smart Card Removal Policy			Manual
SNMP Trap					Manual
SPP Notification Service			Manual
SSDP Discovery				Started	Manual
Steam Client Service				Manual
Tablet PC Input Service				Manual
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper			Started	Manual
Telephony					Manual
Themes						Manual
Thread Ordering Server				Manual
TPM Base Services				Manual
UPnP Device Host				Manual
Virtual Disk					Manual
Volume Shadow Copy				Manual
WebClient					Manual
Windows Backup					Manual
Windows Biometric Service			Manual
Windows CardSpace				Manual
Windows Color System				Manual
Windows Connect Now - Config Registrar	Started	Manual
Windows Defender				Manual
Windows Driver Foundation - User-mode Driver Framework	Started	Manual
Windows Error Reporting Service			Manual
Windows Event Collector				Manual
Windows Firewall				Manual
Windows Font Cache Service			Manual
Windows Image Acquisition (WIA)			Manual
Windows Installer				Manual
Windows Modules Installer			Manual
Windows Presentation Foundation Font Cache 3.0.0.0	Manual
Windows Remote Management (WS-Management)	Manual
Windows Time					Manual
Windows Update					Manual
WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service	Manual
Wired AutoConfig				Manual
WLAN AutoConfig					Manual
WMI Performance Adapter				Manual
WWAN AutoConfig					Manual
If you don't mind about Aero, Desktop Window Manager Session Manager stopped/disabled give an impressive snappiness feeling to 2D (desktop) and mouse movement

Increases system responsiveness and helps to prevents system stalls with Process Lasso. Gaming Mode highly recommended!
Alternatively you can manually edit and save processes priority with Prio - Process Priority Saver and boost foreground application AboveNormal with TopWinPrio.

Defrag your HDDs with UltimateDefrag
Best defragger around BY LARGE, you can manually select which files/folders to place on HDD outer rings (fastest) or leave the program do an awesome job automatically with Last Access Time Stamp enabled.
Prevent fragmentation and reduce disk accesses (I/Os) in real-time with Diskeeper 2010 Pro Premier IntelliWrite, I-FAAST & HyperFast
I use both, Diskeeper for 24/7 real-time management and UltimateDefrag for optimal files placement!

How to deal with suspicious files, recovering the goods without getting the s**tThe lastest DirectX files version are installed with DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010), you can trick the game to run them with this method:
Copy and paste those files from C:\Windows\System32 to your %INSTALLDIR%\battlefield bad company 2:
  • D3DCompiler_43.dll
  • D3DX9_43.dll
  • d3dx10_43.dll
  • d3dx11_43.dll
Move, rename or delete the real *_42.dll files from your Installdir
Rename *_43.dll files as *_42.dll.
The game will now run DirectX v43 DLLs (from his Installdir as v42)

*RenderAheadLimit is the same as AMD past and desactivated Flip Queue Size setting and same as NVIDIA Maximum Pre-Rendered Frames.
Default AMD & NVIDIA drivers value is 3. Default BF:BC2 setting.ini value is 2 (taking over drivers value).
RenderAheadLimit=0 in setting.ini doesn't mean NONE but "revert to drivers value".
For the lowest input lag (visual latency) and best hits registration:
NVIDIA users have to change Maximum Pre-Rendered Frames in NVIDIA Control Panel to 0, this will override any game's setting.ini value.
AMD users have to set game's setting.ini: RenderAheadLimit=1. Zero can't be achieved on AMD drivers because Flip Queue Size is now disabled/removed from them.
On low spec systems you may experiment stuttering and tearing with low render ahead.


@Everybody
If you get hard lock-up, freeze with BRRRRRR sound randomly but probably no more than 40 minutes of continuous gaming; don't start to find a culprit in your system, I tried everything under the sun, no solution.
PunkBuster messed up in the last update of Wednesday 03.09.2011 Version 2.263.
Send them a Web Ticket, it may help them or speed up the corrective.
   
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There's really bad scenarios there and it works flawless for 'regular user' basis.
Like I said, I have yet to encounter a bad scenario with ver. 2010 but maybe that's because I happen to be a regular user of J2EE server technology and a trained IT specialist.

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If I say that word 'automatic' is something that doesn't belong to computer world
I more than love automatic stuff. Otherwise I wouldn't have chosen to become an IT person in the first place I guess. lol

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My point was on there what is needed, what would be fast scenario in system with no extra services installed and do the job for ideal performance
out of OS.
Yeah, I also wish MS had thrown in the full version of Diskeeper 2010 EnterpriseServer into my Windows 7 Ultimate but the anti-trust organizations would have been no doubt furious about that so I'll thank some kind of spiritual entity for the extra services.

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On SSD cases this doesn't even matter defragmenting is more to harm hardware than speed it up, but indexing the SSD is another case.
The purpose of HyperFast is not to defrag an SSD but to optimize it instead, in such way that the life expectancy of the SSD is prolonged rather than harmed.
   
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Default 03-16-2011, 05:29 | posts: 1,827 | Location: Finland

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Like I said, I have yet to encounter a bad scenario with ver. 2010 but maybe that's because I happen to be a regular user of J2EE server technology and a trained IT specialist.


I more than love automatic stuff. Otherwise I wouldn't have chosen to become an IT person in the first place I guess. lol
and as an IT specialist you actually consider the diskkeeper ? What I mean is that it keeps the system in very good shape, but it also shapes the performance of every execution.

No, as an IT specialist you should really be looking solid defragmention and slow fragmention as an solution and go on ward from there to have an
balance 1 time check MFT size exact double of disk usage to the 1 time pass PER bad boot (meaning BSOD or such power downs) and dedicate the usage data to fastest space through restrictions and none movable/lock down this data.

As for servers DBs should always resident over locked space with pre-allocated space anyway and yes this includes SSDs.

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Yeah, I also wish MS had thrown in the full version of Diskeeper 2010 EnterpriseServer into my Windows 7 Ultimate but the anti-trust organizations would have been no doubt furious about that so I'll thank some kind of spiritual entity for the extra services.
They did, it runs on every 3 days. although, not made by diskkeeper, but microsoft internal optimization itself. It's not an ideal, but you could utilize
the defrag tools I mentioned to use it to even faster idea than DK would ever do. As in detecting the prefetchers -> data actually accessed -> locate the space for this data on first space with folder ordering so single load pass would be contiquous always.

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The purpose of HyperFast is not to defrag an SSD but to optimize it instead, in such way that the life expectancy of the SSD is prolonged rather than harmed.
There is no way to optimize an SSD. The whole idea of SSD is bad as long the speed is degraded under data in place. -> check for yourself and you'll
find a lot on 'huss huss subjects' by manufacturers, heh. They usually like to keep quiet when their advertised 600MB/s SATA3 hardware maximum
throughput in relaity is 100MB/s which is 3 times slower than any regular SATA device. ;P

-edit-

Hmm, reading my own text here a bit and above. Seems I am fighting against diskkeeper. So, don't get me wrong I got nothing against the diskkeeper.
Just after personal testing of the software I've come to other conclusions why not recommend the software, but up to 1 version from the past and
that there is really good other solutions which in the end might work equal or better.

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You don't have double standard, double system (level) of prioritization.
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A more detail answer please. Thanks in advance.
Sure!

Detailled answer: Simplicity is beautiful

No really, google about MMCSS if you want more, I give hints about what may improve performance/reduce issues, free to you to try it or not.
   
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If you get hard lock-up, freeze with BRRRRRR sound randomly but probably no more than 40 minutes of continuous gaming; don't start to find a culprit in your system, I tried everything under the sun, no solution.
PunkBuster messed up in the last update of Wednesday 03.09.2011 Version 2.263.
Send them a Web Ticket, it may help them or speed up the corrective.

does this concern PB only games or games in general??

well it happened to me but only with valve's TeamFortress2.. its fine in COD4,5 (both PB)
   
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"sluggish": disable Desktop Window Manager Session Manager service, it feel a lot less sluggish.
Any way to get a similar result, while still having the transparant themes? I've already done the checkboxes in compatibility to disable the themes and composition on my games their exe files.

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does this concern PB only games or games in general??

well it happened to me but only with valve's TeamFortress2.. its fine in COD4,5 (both PB)
BF:BC2 only, I copied and pasted my post written in a BF:BC2 forum, I should have be more specific in here, sorry.

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Any way to get a similar result, while still having the transparant themes? I've already done the checkboxes in compatibility to disable the themes and composition on my games their exe files.
Hmmm I don't think so, DirectX 2D enhancement (Aero) go through DWM service.
   
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and as an IT specialist you actually consider the diskkeeper ?
No, like I said I used to consider it. Nowadays I just take it for granted.
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but it also never ever shapes the performance of any execution.
There, I fixed it for you.
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No, as an IT specialist you should really be looking solid defragmention and slow fragmention as an solution and go on ward from there to have an balance 1 time check MFT size exact double of disk usage to the 1 time pass PER bad boot (meaning BSOD or such power downs) and dedicate the usage data to fastest space through restrictions and none movable/lock down this data.
I'm sorry but could you rewrite this sentence in English please? Yes, data persistence is a complex matter in J2EE.
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As for servers DBs should always resident over locked space with pre-allocated space anyway and yes this includes SSDs.
Database servers are what makes Diskeeper 2010 truly shine.

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They did, it runs on every 3 days. although, not made by diskkeeper, but microsoft internal optimization itself. It's not an ideal, but you could utilize
the defrag tools I mentioned to use it to even faster idea than DK would ever do. As in detecting the prefetchers -> data actually accessed -> locate the space for this data on first space with folder ordering so single load pass would be contiquous always.
Diskeeper 2010 runs almost intantaneously so 3 days is almost 3 days too much. I don't care how fast those defrag tools are because they slow the system down as soon as they start defragging and that's simply unacceptable to me.
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LOL!!
   
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@TruMutton_200Hz

Well, everyone likes what they like. Not gonna place argument here again just said 'my personal opinion', but try it some time remove diskkeeper and it's services and compare
my method I was trying to refer to and judge then the end results as in do 1 decent set and then judge the over time usage.

and I do stand behind the last 'LOL' you gave me there is no way you can optimize an SSD.

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Now that I truly did read what you wrote. O my god I disagree with your ideas so much, heh, just had to say. I see our opinions on the subject
separated like night and day, heck, I bet I could fight on this subject for a month and still not agree (""some"" Correction: ) None of above.

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If you get hard lock-up, freeze with BRRRRRR sound randomly but probably no more than 40 minutes of continuous gaming; don't start to find a culprit in your system, I tried everything under the sun, no solution.
PunkBuster messed up in the last update of Wednesday 03.09.2011 Version 2.263.
Send them a Web Ticket, it may help them or speed up the corrective.
Ok I found why this happen now, PunkBuster crash your computers because of GENUINE in-game overlays. So until they fix this (I hope they will), disable any in-game overlay you have.
Tested to freeze/crash my system:I can run all this thread tweaks with no crashes if those three overlays are disabled.

Other in-game overlays you should probably disable (untested):
  • Eva Precision
  • RadeonPro
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  • TeamSpeak
  • X-fire
  • Anything that can supersede over the game visual/graphics
   
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Seem PunkBuster hard lockup issue is deeper/bigger than just removing overlays to fix it, still getting freezes with minimal/ultra clean untweaked Windows 7 x64.

Refrain from using "+fullproc" and Process Lasso Gaming mode, it look to me PB have big issues with threads prioritization.
   
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I have Process lasso running on my system and I have no problems with PunkBuster. But if I change the PunkBuster process to lower priority it kick me out of games.
   
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Sure!

Detailled answer: Simplicity is beautiful

No really, google about MMCSS if you want more, I give hints about what may improve performance/reduce issues, free to you to try it or not.
Disabling that service says that it disables also windows audio. So no audio if i disable that. And i tried cuz i disabled it yesterday cuz it didnt seem to do anything useful to me, then on next startup, no audio.
   
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MMCSS is a bit lost cost as that is actually pretty good thing sceduling between hardware. We can't really turn Windows 7 back to XP entirely (it turns
to Windows 98/ME before that), but if we could get rid of some parts of MMCSS this would be helpful. I haven't seen such as of yet, but I wonder, if an
all configurations based to MMCSS would be collected through registry/global policy/prompt/(and how it's scaled through diagnostics) could there be way to alter the MMCSS functionality.

Wonder since Von Dach has probably a lot of documents on the subject would there be something found of controlling of/over MMCSS.
   
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Disabling that service says that it disables also windows audio. So no audio if i disable that. And i tried cuz i disabled it yesterday cuz it didnt seem to do anything useful to me, then on next startup, no audio.
As Von Dach posted remove audio dependencies and then disable MMCSS.
   
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On overclock.net JF-AMD has stated many a time old drivers should not be removed when installing new ones, new drivers should be installed over old ones. He says there's no difference between modified and unmodified drivers. He also says that a lot of problems arise from using Driver Sweeper. Following his advice I have started to install drivers over each other and never experienced a problem.

I don't know whether you're familiar with JF-AMD, but just to be clear he's the AMD representative on those forums.

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