Mafia 2 PhysX Problem - Page 2

WhiteLightning · 08-10-2010, 18:38 | posts: 20,495 | Location: Netherlands

ugh... got rank D , 32fps avg. ive seen physx on my gpu go to 23% , was when the guy was walking through the fire and smoke.
hopefully future drivers will improve performance.

isidore · 08-10-2010, 18:43 | posts: 5,597 | Location: Timisoara, Romania

seems like i found a good combination for physx, nvidia 258.96+physx 09.10.512.
Batman AA:
min-25 avg 50 max-60 old drivers
min-28 avg-51 max-61 new drivers
A nice 3 fps increase there.
Mafia 2:
min-29 avg-48.211 max-63
same as before but alot smoother now.

the max fps is locked cause of V-sync.

MikeMK · 08-10-2010, 18:55 | posts: 10,497 | Location: London

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Originally Posted by Copey

Yeah with the patch/crack it does, i would get a 9600GT instead of the 8800GT mike, less power and heat plus does the job just aswell.

K, thanks for the tip. I can grab an 8800GT cheaper by the looks of it, thats all. BTW can u link me to the patch/crack u mentioned?

isidore · 08-10-2010, 19:09 | posts: 5,597 | Location: Timisoara, Romania

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Originally Posted by MikeMK

K, thanks for the tip. I can grab an 8800GT cheaper by the looks of it, thats all. BTW can u link me to the patch/crack u mentioned?

here's everything you need

http://www.ng ohq.com/graphic-cards/17706-hybrid-physx-mod-v1-03-v1-04ff.html

without the space between ng and ohq

MikeMK · 08-10-2010, 19:10 | posts: 10,497 | Location: London

Thanks m8

Indeo · 08-10-2010, 19:15 | posts: 1,553

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Originally Posted by MikeMK

So the PhysX works fine with ATI GPU's + an nvidia card for PhysX? Im debating picking up an 8800GT for just that reason if it works ok

It works just fine and looks fantastic, but the game itself is horribly unoptimized, at least for my config... Even when you just stand at the very same place it jumps from 70+ to 30 fps and back within a second. Considering that, I re-run the benchmark after finishing playthrough... Got +10 fps avg and no dips under 40 at all. Updated pic in my first post.

isidore · *Last edited by isidore; 08-10-2010 at 19:22.*

I kinda manage to fix that issue, not 100% but a bit with nvidia 258.96+physx 09.10.0512..but like i said, a bit i still get this weird drops and increases in frames in Mafia 2.

And another weird thing if i start playing the game without running the benchmark i have like 15-20 fps at start, but if i run the benchmark first i have 35-47 fps at start..i'm guessing is cause of the physx it's really bad implemented.

Indeo · 08-10-2010, 19:25 | posts: 1,553

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Originally Posted by isidore

I kinda manage to fix that issue, not 100% but a bit with nvidia 258.96+physx 09.10.0512..but like i said, a bit i still get this weird drops and increases in frames in Mafia 2.

And another weird thing if i start playing the game without running the benchmark i have like 15-20 fps at start, but if i run the benchmark first i have 35-47 fps at start..i'm guessing is cause of the physx it's really bad implemented.

It's probably unrelated to PhysX, just poor overall coding or lack of driver support. I'm running the same Nvidia driver & PhysX version, btw.

*gone writing a report for teh Demo thread*

ShadowMyth · 08-10-2010, 19:46 | posts: 3,396 | Location: West Chester, PA

Weird GPU usage when Physx is enabled using the Physx that came with the demo. The Physx indicator says it's working on the GPU.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=487

isidore · 08-10-2010, 20:07 | posts: 5,597 | Location: Timisoara, Romania

i'm guessing that's what happening to all of us, and that's why performance is so smooth and stable without physx..like i said, i'm guessing bad implementation of physx, this needs to be fixed in the full game, although i'll bet that the full game will be released with the same issue and a patch will be released in a couple of days after the release.

Funky Doodle · 08-10-2010, 21:27 | posts: 792

i had no physx too, but i repaired it through control and patched with physx mod as administrator and now it works.

VMax Tuner · 08-11-2010, 07:52 | posts: 60

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Originally Posted by isidore

i'm guessing that's what happening to all of us, and that's why performance is so smooth and stable without physx..like i said, i'm guessing bad implementation of physx, this needs to be fixed in the full game, although i'll bet that the full game will be released with the same issue and a patch will be released in a couple of days after the release.

Or maybe like some other games they`ll release a patch a few days before the game hits the stores but this is what you get when you not doing thorough Beta-Tests anymore. Look at ID-Software games, always Beta-Testing and always running strong from day one, at least technically.

Radical_53 · 08-11-2010, 08:07 | posts: 2,261 | Location: Germany

Well, the game hasn't been released yet so there's still hope

Think of all the recent EA titles. They all needed several months and at least 1-2 large patches to address the biggest problems.
I really hope they get this right and deliver a working package with nice, high-res textures and fully utilized GPUs.

VMax Tuner · 08-11-2010, 09:07 | posts: 60

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Originally Posted by Radical_53

Well, the game hasn't been released yet so there's still hope

Think of all the recent EA titles. They all needed several months and at least 1-2 large patches to address the biggest problems.
I really hope they get this right and deliver a working package with nice, high-res textures and fully utilized GPUs.

True, we really should buy the games about a year later when everything is fixed and in that case as EA Classics for 20 bucks... thats the way to do it if they`re not changing their attitude, so why spending full price at the beginning for a crappy running game when you can have it cheaper and fully working later on!

Radical_53 · 08-11-2010, 10:16 | posts: 2,261 | Location: Germany

Absolutely, yes. It's hard if you're looking for a multiplayer title but that's how I normally behave for pure singleplayer titles. Their campaigns get shorter and shorter so I want to enjoy them completely. If that comes with a smaller price tag, even better

Well worth the wait.

asder00 · 08-11-2010, 11:19 | posts: 874 | Location: twitter.com/asder00

Read this!

http://physxinfo.com/news/3628/mafia...x-performance/

Cyrax · 08-11-2010, 12:06 | posts: 260

good find asder

got 5870 Cf setup and game runs average 50/60 fps @ 2560 x 1600 wihout physx

when i turn physx on my fps goes from 70 to 30 fps in benchmark....

VMax Tuner · 08-11-2010, 12:39 | posts: 60

I just found this post by "°L°" in the Mafia 2 Demo Thread!
Nice find! I will give it a try maybe it helps!

Thanks to °L° for the find!

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=326793&page=3

VMax Tuner · 08-11-2010, 12:54 | posts: 60

So I was just testing this new PhysX Software 9.10.513 and it didn`t gave any FPS boost on my system but I think thats due to bad SLI-scaling on my rig. But I noticed the FPS are more settled, not those weird jumps we`ve seen. Seems smoother overall!

I would like to see some results of people running graphics and PhysX on the same GPU, my guess is that in this case the new software will give some additional FPS.

ShadowDuke · *Last edited by ShadowDuke; 08-11-2010 at 13:52.*

Testing it now (GTX 260 physx and graphics)

€: much, much better

VMax Tuner · 08-11-2010, 19:37 | posts: 60

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Originally Posted by ShadowDuke

Testing it now (GTX 260 physx and graphics)

€: much, much better

Nice! So it seems to help! So now we just have to wait for some new ForceWare drivers which are having optimizations for Mafia 2....maybe the Demo gets updated by 2K Games as well (which I doubt because its just the Demo).

Cheers!

Radical_53 · 08-11-2010, 22:20 | posts: 2,261 | Location: Germany

They already did that. The demo got an update today, I haven't tested it so far though. Also Nvidia drivers 259.12 and 259.31 should have a profile for Mafia 2.

ShadowDuke · 08-12-2010, 01:11 | posts: 682 | Location: Germany

..The Update is just 513 Physx fix..see 3rd dir..

cat_fish_1 · 08-12-2010, 07:49 | posts: 3 | Location: Sweden

Mine keeps freezing after 2-4 minutes of gameplay, so odd.

Radical_53 · 08-12-2010, 07:54 | posts: 2,261 | Location: Germany

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Originally Posted by ShadowDuke

..The Update is just 513 Physx fix..see 3rd dir..

Ok, well. I guess then I won't need to try it out and see what's new. I already tried the demo with 513 and the problems remained (after solving the problem Physx was running on CPU I still get highly fluctuacting frame rates and GPU utilization).