F@H Updates

[iancook221188]

yer the issue with GPU3 but ive also had internet connection issus aswell had nearly all client down apart from the bigadv and that dropping soon look like im now getting work again

[PantherX]

There is an issue with GPU3 WUs. The credit information was lost hence there will be no credits Really sorry. Official Forum Thread.

[Ghost15]

Originally Posted by PantherX

There is an issue with GPU3 WUs. The credit information was lost hence there will be no credits Really sorry. Official Forum Thread.

I was wondering what was up, thanks for the update

[PantherX]

Classic Client:

Originally Posted by yslin

Hi,

Project 6881 will soon be added to adv.

These are classic gromacs jobs serving as the second-stage configuration sampling of a single full-length amyloid beta (Abeta) mutant in water.

Points and deadlines info:
project 6881: 69 points, preferred deadline 14 days, final deadline 21 days

Thanks!

yslin

Source

GPU3 Projects for Fermi:

Originally Posted by yslin

Hi,

A new GPU3/Fermi project 6806 will soon be added to fah. This is our second-stage sampling of the amyloid beta peptide (Abeta) mutant configurations. These beta tests are to evaluate the performance of our new work server code, new version of core15 (2.15) and the results will be used to build Markov states for Abeta monomer, which will serve as great starting points for future oligomerization studies.

Points and deadlines: 1348 points, preferred deadline 5 days, final deadline 10 days

Note: We have changed our benchmarking machine for GPU3/Fermi WUs from GTX480 to GTX460. Before, we would have a consistent PPD=12889 for GTX480. Now we are using PPD=9787 for GTX460. This PPD=9787 for GTX460 was chosen using Villin (p10632; 611 points) as the standard since Villin (number of atoms=582) is of medium size.

Thanks!

yslin

Source

[Athlonite]

Originally Posted by PantherX

I mentioned this earlier in the thread:


FYI the first GPU Client was exclusively for ATI GPUs. The second GPU Client was for Nvidia/ATI/AMD. The current GPU3 BETA Client works for nearily all Nvidia GPUs and it does support ATI/AMD GPUs but the issue is that the FahCore_11 for ATI/AMD isn't optimized. I highly doubt that Standford will be accepting money to skew their development plans.

ok from what I understood about OpenCL is that it was supposed to like OpenGL in that it was platform independent, all that was required was applicable hardware to run it ie: DX10/ OpenCL 1.x or better support for GPU and or multi core CPU

so what works for nVidia should in theory work for ATI

[PantherX]

Looks like v7 is just beyond the horizon:

Originally Posted by VijayPande

We are making a push for Q1 2011. You never know what can crop up in testing (v7 is currently going through alpha testing), but I think we're close.

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[iancook221188]

now that i like the sounds of

[PantherX]

Classic Client:

Originally Posted by yslin

Hi,

Project 6887 will soon be added for adv tests.

These are classic gromacs jobs serving as the second-stage configuration sampling of a single full-length amyloid beta (Abeta) peptide in water (with a different force field from P6880).

Points and deadlines info:
project 6887: 69 points, preferred deadline 14 days, final deadline 21 days

Thanks!

yslin

Source

[Athlonite]

bring on V7 hopefully it will be ATI's OpenCL glory day for GPU3

[PantherX]

Classic Client:

Originally Posted by yslin

Hi,

Project 6883 will soon be added for adv tests.

These are classic gromacs jobs serving as the second-stage configuration sampling of a single full-length amyloid beta (Abeta) mutant in water.

Points and deadlines info:
project 6883: 69 points, preferred deadline 14 days, final deadline 21 days

Thanks!

yslin

Source

[PantherX]

Fermi Project:

Originally Posted by yslin

Hi,

There will be a new GPU3/Fermi project 6801 on adv soon. This is our second-stage sampling of the amyloid beta peptide (Abeta) mutant configurations.

Points and deadlines: 1348 points, preferred deadline 5 days, final deadline 10 days

Note: We have changed our benchmarking machine for GPU3/Fermi WUs from GTX480 to GTX460. Before, we would have a consistent PPD=12889 for GTX480. Now we are using PPD=9787 for GTX460. This PPD=9787 for GTX460 was chosen using Villin (p10632; 611 points) as the standard since Villin (number of atoms=582) is of medium size.

Thanks!

yslin

Source

[PantherX]

There has been the release of GPU3 Beta Client Systray Version 6.41 (Details).

Finally, it looks like the bigadv bug for Linux is going to be solved soon. (Details).

[iancook221188]

update from Vijay Pande blog

Folding@home
A blog all about Folding@home, from its Director, Prof. Vijay Pande
http://folding.stanford.edu
(c) 2007 Vijay Pande
March 31, 2011

Core 16 for ATI released; also note on NVIDIA GPU support for older boards

In a previous post, I mentioned our plans for supporting ATI GPUs. I'm happy to announce that with the release of v7 into open beta, we have now released ATI core 16 GPU3 WUs into advanced methods for Folding@home. Please see Dr. Lin's forum post for details.

We are doing a gradual rollout of these WUs, for a couple of reasons. First, while this has gone through beta testing, it is still pretty new, so we want to be cautious with its rollout. Second, I would like to add some more servers to help the load. These servers are being delivered today and will likley be on line in a week or two. Depending on the load on the ATI core 16 Work server, we may wait for a full release until the new hardware is on line.

Just a reminder from the previous post that there are some limitations in our ability to support ATI boards. In particular, we're limited to those which support OpenCL 1.1 in order to get any sort of reasonable performance out of the hardware. This means that only 5xxx ATI GPU boards or later will work with the new core 16 (the series 3xxx are not supported and the series 4xxx does not have sufficient OpenCL support). However, we will keep core 11 support going hopefully at least until Sept 1, 2011 in order to support the older hardware.

Also, we are looking at support of older NVIDIA GPUs as well. In particular, there have been reported issues with some 8xxx series boards. We may have to limit their support as well due to analogous hardware compatibility issues.

We're excited to be able to release OpenCL support for ATI GPUs. However, I want to stress that it is still pretty early days for this code, but we're excited about where this is going.




Folding@home
A blog all about Folding@home, from its Director, Prof. Vijay Pande
http://folding.stanford.edu
(c) 2007 Vijay Pande
April 05, 2011

More transparency in testing

For 10 years, we have rolled out Folding@home work units (WUs), Cores, and client software using a Quality Assurance (QA) protocol that involves several steps, including internal testing (int), closed beta testing (bet), open beta testing (adv), and full release (fah). The goal of this gradual rollout is to try to keep problematic WUs and software from getting released and to allow donors to have some choice in terms of how bleeding edge they’d like to be.

However, this does mean that a great deal of work is done in closed testing, which has several disadvantages. First and foremost, all the work that beta testers, Forum Moderators, and the Pande Group does to QA WUs is never seen. This also means the rationale for releasing WUs in their current form is not broadly visible. And while entry to the team of donors working on closed beta testing was always available, that is a large bar to cross just to see what's going on. On the other hand, there are many upsides to closed testing however, including having a tight knit group of knowledgable donors giving useful feedback for strong QA of WUs.

While there are pros and cons of closed testing, I've decided that it is a good time to push for much more transparency in Folding@home in general, including closed beta testing. So, from now on, closed beta testing (bet) forum will be open for all to see. However, in order to keep strong QA, only beta team members can write in this forum (but as always, membership is open to those who are interested and dedicated to testing WUs).

My hope is that this will show all of the hard work that is done in testing WUs and will help answer questions about specific WUs that often come up. Also in this spirit, we have opened our v7 client bug tracker for read-only access so donors can see our progress with client development.

There's a tremendous amount of activity that goes on behind the scenes and I'm excited to open that up so the hard work that's been going on for a decade can now be much more visible (and hopefully better understood and appreciated).

[Athlonite]

yeah the Ocl code could probably do with a bit more work to bring ATI/AMD GPU's inline points/PPD wise with nVidia GPU's even though 6652.57PPD for 1 HD5770 is way better than I was getting with core_11 WU's I was hoping for more like 9 or 10K PPD

And more openness about whats going on can only be a good thing for the F@H team and it users/donors as being kept in the dark is for the shrooms

[iancook221188]

it good to see that the old nvidia cards still getting support after core 11

[iancook221188]

new gpu3 work unit coming there bigger in size and heat look out for them

tjlane
PROJECTS 7620 and 7621 - CheY Folding

Moving to advanced!

For nVidia Fermi GPUs (GPU3) on Win32 machines
Points = 5187
timeout = 12.6
deadline = 17.9
atoms = 1980

Additionally, these WUs will require a new version (v2.20) of Core15, which should be automatically downloaded as needed.

These projects aim to study the folding of CheY, which, if successful, will be the largest protein folded in silico. CheY is well-studied experimentally, and exhibits many interesting scientific features. Due to it's wide study in the lab, we hope that it will provide a test case for FAH methodology, and give us good ideas about how to improve our techniques. This is an exciting project, since it represents something that is really only possible on FAH combined with the power of GPUs.

NOTE: These WUs are significantly larger than previously released GPU WUs. While I stress *we have not seen any damaged hardware*, they may stress older cards (GTX 450 and earlier) and overclocked cards. If you have an overclocked card, and receive one of these units, monitor your card's temperature actively. You may want to reset to factory clock settings.

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[PlayN@Home]

Got one of the new WU, P7621. On a GTX 570 it took about 14.5 hours to process, TPF of 4:30. The card ran about 4c warmer and it's water cooled.

[iancook221188]

missed this

FAH blog update

November 09, 2011

Donor Advisory Board (DAB)

We've been working to make the behind the scenes tasks of Folding@home better communicated with FAH donors. In the last few months, there have been many recent changes, including making the beta team forum open and making our v7 client bug tracker open for all to read. Today, I wanted to talk about another experimental change, the formation of a Donor Advisory Board (DAB). We've in the past gotten lots of feedback from donors on our Forum site (http://foldingforum.org). Based on discussions with many donors, we have been working to expand these discussions to a broader group of donors and have formed a Donor Advisory Board. The DAB is currently comprised of: rjbelans (folding@evga), kendrak ([H]ardOCP), zodac (Overclock.net), ChasR (www.overclockers.com), and Michael McCord (MaximumPC), Bruce Borden (Forum Admin), and myself.

The goal of the DAB is to improve communication in both directions and so far I think it's been helpful in that regard. Pasted below is the first set of agenda items that we have been working on.

1) Improving communication: What can PG do to help improve communication?
2) Beta testing plan: How to improve transparency without lowering the quality of beta testing.
3) Points consistency: How to make PPD more consistent.

We've made changes in all three areas but none of these can be considered "done". My hope is that the DAB will help feedback in both directions, giving us broader perspectives of donors concerns and also to better communicate what we're doing to improve FAH and push towards greater scientific achievements.

[iancook221188]

FAH blog update

Recent video about Folding@home from the Stanford News Service

The Stanford News Service recently came by to do a video for Folding@home. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjt1Q...ayer_embedded#!

this is a simple video that you can use to show people what folding is about

[sykozis]

We don't have a member on the DAB??

[iancook221188]

i think it only for the top 5/6 teams

[sykozis]

My SMP client will be down for the next 48-72hrs due to thermal issues and for a hardware change. Should be back up and running no later than saturday evening.

[iancook221188]

up date on stats servers

Network issue at Stanford

Vijay Pande blog

The whole Stanford campus is having a major issue due to the lack of chilled water on campus. This is causing issues for many of our servers in different server rooms. As of this moment, this is still not resolved. We cannot bring servers back on line until this is resolved. It's getting late (~10:30pm PST), so we'll check back tomorrow morning to see hopefully that this is resolved. Until then, several of FAH's servers are down unfortunately.

UPDATE 4:30am Pacific Time: Chilled water came back on line at 11am, but several of our servers are still down. Our sysadmins will work to get them back up, but it may not be until Monday, depending on their availability on Sunday.

[k1net1cs]

So that's why sometimes a finished WU didn't get uploaded properly.

10.30pm is late for sysadmins?
Blasphemy!

[iancook221188]

yer there not allowed a weekend lol get back to work