AMD Catalyst (Modified Build)

[nexus_711]

@TwL
Just tested your experimental 113 on my tri-fire 5970+5870. On benchmark Tropics v1.3 DX11 it was slower compared to previous build 4.23b. In games BF:BC2 DX11 fps was nice average 130, but some black stripes appeared constantly like in every 10sec interval and it crashed on exit of match. Dirt2 DX11 was very smooth, constant fps in game, but there was fps drop and rise between game and menu. Just tell me what else I can test.

[TwL]

Originally Posted by nexus_711

@TwL
Just tested your experimental 113 on my tri-fire 5970+5870. On benchmark Tropics v1.3 DX11 it was slower compared to previous build 4.23b. In games BF:BC2 DX11 fps was nice average 130, but some black stripes appeared constantly like in every 10sec interval and it crashed on exit of match. Dirt2 DX11 was very smooth, constant fps in game, but there was fps drop and rise between game and menu. Just tell me what else I can test.

I know it's slower that's not the point when whole game crashes on screen which is ridiculous. I know where the mistake is which is good news. Will be
fixing the HD5 CFX setups on next setups. Damn I would just need more Instant testers which can bunch drivers in and simply test against CFX and
give me results at ones and not look the stop watch how many drivers they've installed or how their systems wasn't working, but simply do the work
it requires to get functional setup like @Hans Dampf did some time ago great work with me.

This is only way to test as I could need 10 patches and 5 drivers tested at ones tester gets their hands on them not 2 days after I give an patch to someone. Lazy people kills me someday I bet.

[nexus_711]

@TwL
Thanks for replay TwL! I'd be glad to help you how ever I can, the only thing is my work that I have to do some night shifts and day shifts during the week, that means I am away of my computer and can only read some forum updates on my smart phone while I'm at work. My system is pretty stable since I built it myself, never have any crashes related to hardware, its mostly water cooled.

[TwL]

Originally Posted by nexus_711

@TwL
Thanks for replay TwL! I'd be glad to help you how ever I can, the only thing is my work that I have to do some night shifts and day shifts during the week, that means I am away of my computer and can only read some forum updates on my smart phone while I'm at work. My system is pretty stable since I built it myself, never have any crashes related to hardware, its mostly water cooled.

nah, just meant basically some testers who've offered to help and when the time comes they think I am gonna offer them 1 solution. While the truth is I
would need multiple solutions tested and for the tester to physically be there and do the work while we're testing (20-XX Mins + several reboots) and not
say to me after first build or patch I provide that 'I give you answer on E-mail tomorrow'.

Didn't mean you have to test anything just an opinion why builds are what they are although always welcome.

@commonly

damn, 64-bit flash is online...

http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

[DarkSilver]

I thought 64bit flash had been around for weeks already?
Because I already installed it days ago. LOL.

By the way, is the current CCC fully compatible with the 64bit flash?

[TwL]

Originally Posted by DarkSilver

I thought 64bit flash had been around for weeks already?
Because I already installed it days ago. LOL.

By the way, is the current CCC fully compatible with the 64bit flash?

Actually should be, if I ain't mistaken the hardware acceleration on x64 systems should be identical already to 32-bit environment.

[Touche]

Originally Posted by TwL

-UPDATE - v1.0x HD4 drivers-

I will also update v1.08 build to reflect for HD4 and improve it's optimization. Driver WILL NOT change, but I WILL NOT build an patch. I will include new
cleaning systems and other new stuff under new edition v1.12.

Will these be coming soon?

[Dazza08]

Hey guys,

Do i uninstall this the same way i uninstall the official drivers?

[boerenlater]

Originally Posted by Dazza08

Hey guys,

Do i uninstall this the same way i uninstall the official drivers?

Read the first post carefully.

[TwL]

Originally Posted by Touche

Will these be coming soon?

Been a damn busy day.

I will try my best to get all of these up to tomorrow.

[sprower]

@TwL Man you never cease to amaze.

I recently bought a 3rd 5770 to play with in trifire. I really wasn't expecting much out of the third (plan on upgrading the families pc's with them once 6series comes out) as my mobo reverts to 8x8x16 with three cards and reviews weren't yielding that much of a difference between crossfire and trifire (+20ish fps at best on the top in some titles). My results showed even less of a gain which is what I expected.... with Cat10.5a/.8/.9a...

But $&@t son with 423aV2 (flipped a coin between a and b) processing is through the roof! All three cores hold a solid 75%+ usage in most titles (jumpy as hell with officials). IQ is astounding like usual. And my yields are showing better performance (2-8%) in crossfire/trifire than the recent Guru3d quadfire review with your drivers over what they used (10.8?) even with the two lane speeds being reduced. Granted my gear is running overclocked and I know the equipment is far from similar but I really expected much less from this third card based on Hilberts results.

Anyway I wanted to ask if it's possible to get AMD Overdrive to work with these? I'm sure it's something boffed on Overdrives end but the damn pos just crashes on launch with anything more recent than 10.5 including your drivers. I think it was 3.90 of yours that it worked with last which (correct me if I'm wrong) was 10.5 based.

Cheers

[CoMa666]

Hey twl pls do the drivers for bc2 and sc2 togheter, i want play fine with my 2 hd 5870, there are many ppl with crash to desktop problems with crossfire, i hope you can do it today or tomorrow really, i need your job.
If you need something ask don't worry i want help you, if you want i can test drievrs and help in beta testing.

[Gorki]

Is there any chance that I could run this driver on my i7 system with my old ati x1800xl card under win 7 (64-bit)?
Sorry it's a long shoot but I had to ask. I was able to install 10.2 drivers but after that ati stopped with support. Is it possible to that by editing inf file, if so please let me know.
Thanks.

[Von Dach]

Originally Posted by CoMa666

Hey twl pls do the drivers for bc2 and sc2 togheter, i want play fine with my 2 hd 5870, there are many ppl with crash to desktop problems with crossfire, i hope you can do it today or tomorrow really, i need your job.
If you need something ask don't worry i want help you, if you want i can test drievrs and help in beta testing.

They're is NO ATI/TwL drivers related crash to desktop (CTD) for BC2, and those Realtek sound card CTD issues are bull**** too if you ever ask.

1. PunkBuster need a clean update
2. Your overclock fail BC2 but may pass burn tests. Reduce OC or add voltages.
3. Corrupted system files. Open a command prompt, type "sfc /scannow"
4. Corrupted mind, you messed up something in your system, up to you to find solution or implose.

[CoMa666]

No man you wrong, with catalyst 10.4 and catalyst 10.5a i don't have ctd at all, and many players like me if you not believe me just see in amd game forum how many replays are about this.
And there a posto in the Ea forum with 300 pages about this too, so really i'm not a liar the game crash and the only thing it' s the drivers related.
I tried with sound and without, i tried sfc / scannnow and nothing, really i tried all and nothing, simply drivers related.

[Von Dach]

BF:BC2

genetix_exp113-x64 CFX
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
 10008,     60000, 138, 201, 166.800
no CFX flickering, fast but not like v4.23a "turbo feeling"
Missing components/modules in this build, BC2 crash or freeze when map rotate.
(No, not a driver issue Coma666, just a beta one made by TwL, probably on purpose. Sorry no flying cow for you!)

genetix_build423b-x64 CFX
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
 10059,     60000, 126, 201, 167.650
almost no CFX flickering, feel fast but v4.23a faster

winsat query >*.log

genetix_build423a-v2-x64 CFX
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> CPU LZW Compression                          403.24 MB/s
> CPU AES256 Encryption                        238.59 MB/s
> CPU Vista Compression                        1142.48 MB/s
> CPU SHA1 Hash                                1881.53 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU LZW Compression                  100.46 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU AES256 Encryption                56.60 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU Vista Compression                285.30 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU SHA1 Hash                        471.03 MB/s
> Memory Performance                           8587.73 MB/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   1269.34 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             1256.40 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     562.26 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            538.62 F/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   1242.22 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             1234.52 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     496.67 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            503.52 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                1059.81 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                1927.57 F/s
> Direct3D Constant Buffer Performance         848.41 F/s
> Video Memory Throughput                      48613.00 MB/s
> Dshow Video Encode Time                      1.78927 s
> Media Foundation Decode Time                 0.59897 s
> Disk  Sequential 64.0 Read                   73.13 MB/s          6.1
> Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       1.58 MB/s          4.0
> Responsiveness: Average IO Rate              3.07 ms/IO          6.3
> Responsiveness: Grouped IOs                  9.42 units          7.3
> Responsiveness: Long IOs                     9.41 units          7.4
> Responsiveness: Overall                      88.64 units          6.8
> Responsiveness: PenaltyFactor                0.0 

genetix_build423b-x64 CFX
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> CPU LZW Compression                          403.58 MB/s
> CPU AES256 Encryption                        243.53 MB/s
> CPU Vista Compression                        1142.54 MB/s
> CPU SHA1 Hash                                1881.35 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU LZW Compression                  100.73 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU AES256 Encryption                60.87 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU Vista Compression                285.91 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU SHA1 Hash                        471.08 MB/s
> Memory Performance                           8582.98 MB/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   1274.88 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             1254.33 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     551.87 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            552.63 F/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   1224.15 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             1226.86 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     502.30 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            506.10 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                1077.07 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                1940.30 F/s
> Direct3D Constant Buffer Performance         807.00 F/s
> Video Memory Throughput                      48627.90 MB/s
> Dshow Video Encode Time                      1.76819 s
> Media Foundation Decode Time                 0.60195 s
> Disk  Sequential 64.0 Read                   77.35 MB/s          6.1
> Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       1.54 MB/s          4.0
> Responsiveness: Average IO Rate              3.09 ms/IO          6.3
> Responsiveness: Grouped IOs                  8.88 units          7.4
> Responsiveness: Long IOs                     9.90 units          7.4
> Responsiveness: Overall                      87.92 units          6.8
> Responsiveness: PenaltyFactor                0.0 

genetix_exp113-x64 CFX
Windows System Assessment Tool
> Run Time 00:00:00.00
> CPU LZW Compression                          402.34 MB/s
> CPU AES256 Encryption                        244.00 MB/s
> CPU Vista Compression                        1142.48 MB/s
> CPU SHA1 Hash                                1880.84 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU LZW Compression                  100.83 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU AES256 Encryption                60.55 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU Vista Compression                285.57 MB/s
> Uniproc CPU SHA1 Hash                        469.01 MB/s
> Memory Performance                           8590.67 MB/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   1362.32 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             1264.67 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     550.86 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            547.39 F/s
> Direct3D Batch Performance                   925.18 F/s
> Direct3D Alpha Blend Performance             933.50 F/s
> Direct3D ALU Performance                     375.86 F/s
> Direct3D Texture Load Performance            360.99 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                733.38 F/s
> Direct3D Geometry Performance                1305.31 F/s
> Direct3D Constant Buffer Performance         588.66 F/s
> Video Memory Throughput                      48689.50 MB/s
> Dshow Video Encode Time                      1.76313 s
> Media Foundation Decode Time                 0.60586 s
> Disk  Sequential 64.0 Read                   74.88 MB/s          6.1
> Disk  Random 16.0 Read                       1.48 MB/s          3.9
> Responsiveness: Average IO Rate              2.87 ms/IO          6.5
> Responsiveness: Grouped IOs                  10.96 units          7.0
> Responsiveness: Long IOs                     8.27 units          7.5
> Responsiveness: Overall                      90.58 units          6.8
> Responsiveness: PenaltyFactor                0.0

[CoMa666]

hehe man nope, i mean it's not fault of twl he is great and help us, simply are drivers from ati are ****.
My QQ was on Ati not on Twl i crash with ati official drivers and sad with Twl a bit less bit i crash too.

[Har3inger]

I found a fix for CCC resetting 3D settings after resuming from hibernate/sleep. All you need to do is stop the service AMD External Events Utility, through services.msc or task manager. You'll need services.msc if you want to disable it by default on system start up. This is applicable for 3.95 (and maybe others), for those who use it.

[Von Dach]

CoMa666 i'm curious about your winsat assessment with the hardware you have.
Please post it here.

open a command prompt, type "winsat query > winsat.log"

[CoMa666]

Here, dunno what mean frankly and it's in italian now i have catalyst 10.4...




Strumento di valutazione sistema Windows
> Tempo di esecuzione 00:00:00.00
> Compressione LZW CPU 475.47 MB/s
> Crittografia AES256 CPU 244.63 MB/s
> Compressione Vista CPU 885.54 MB/s
> Hash SHA1 CPU 1782.71 MB/s
> Compressione LZW CPU monoprocessore 119.96 MB/s
> Crittografia AES256 CPU monoprocessore 61.34 MB/s
> Compressione Vista CPU monoprocessore 221.97 MB/s
> Hash SHA1 CPU monoprocessore 446.16 MB/s
> Prestazioni della memoria 20491.78 MB/s
> Prestazioni Direct3D Batch 1794.92 F/s
> Prestazioni Direct3D Alpha Blend 1797.36 F/s
> Prestazioni Direct3D ALU 656.93 F/s
> Prestazioni Direct3D Texture Load 637.05 F/s
> Prestazioni Direct3D Batch 1638.36 F/s
> Prestazioni Direct3D Alpha Blend 1637.06 F/s
> Prestazioni Direct3D ALU 642.77 F/s
> Prestazioni Direct3D Texture Load 628.06 F/s
> Prestazioni Direct3D Geometry 1388.37 F/s
> Prestazioni Direct3D Geometry 2675.13 F/s
> Prestazione Direct3D Constant Buffer 1213.90 F/s
> Velocit… effettiva della memoria video 57873.00 MB/s
> Tempo di codifica video Dshow 1.92309 s
> Tempo di decodifica di Media Foundation 0.61002 s
> Disk Sequential 64.0 Read 86.75 MB/s 6.3
> Disk Random 16.0 Read 1.22 MB/s 3.4
> Responsiveness: Average IO Rate 3.22 ms/IO 6.2
> Responsiveness: Grouped IOs 12.41 units 6.6
> Responsiveness: Long IOs 9.86 units 7.4
> Responsiveness: Overall 122.37 units 6.7
> Responsiveness: PenaltyFactor 0.0

[gameboy115]

@ TwL, I am new to this thread, actually in dilemma for buying second hand GTX 295 or 4870 CF. Without any doubt, 4870 CF sounds better choice to me in terms of cost effectiveness.

What makes me worried is the official CF driver support for current new games, like fifa11, pse 2011, lara coft, dead rising 2, F1 2010, darksiders, CIV5 yes, that is basically including all new games ^^..... it would drive me nut if I have to wait for official CF upgrade once per month

I looked via 10 pages, saw you said some game are alright now with latest build, like fifa 11, F1 2010, but I guess it is just for single card?

How about CF setting for HD4xxx series? Is it safe to say I could get a faster CF support with your build

By the way , thx for building alternate option to all of us !!!

[DarkSilver]

GeForce 295 is better, IMO. You don't need to worry about drivers and games compatibility problem later.

[spyder2k5]

Originally Posted by DarkSilver

GeForce 295 is better, IMO. You don't need to worry about drivers and games compatibility problem later.

Yea, you only have to worry about the card bottlenecking itself, and the drivers themselves having tons of issues, and no real optimization. Sounds better no?

In other words if you want to hug nVidia, please go do so in the nVidia section, and spare us ATi people, and users the pain of having to sit and read more crap like this.

I am not trying to flame, but you must realize this is the ATi section, and some people such as myself do not like nVidia.

[Mineria]

Originally Posted by spyder2k5

I am not trying to flame, but you must realize this is the ATi section, and some people such as myself do not like nVidia.

I don't like ATI either.
Give me a Voodoo 9900!

[Anthrax27]

@ TwL

Please please please release a fix for the 2D clock thing
i know u said that its not a bug but i tried everyting from profiles to editing the xml and **** and nothing works
I want the 2D clocks to be normal ( 137/400 ) even after overclocking
it was ok till 10.4 but after that its ****ed :/
am on v4.23 a btw

thanks and keep up the good work