AMD Catalyst (Modified Build)

[TwL]

Originally Posted by Sneakers

Unfortunatly I get the same wierd problem as I did with 3.50 install manager and that is that the driver and CCC doesn't show up in the list at all, so nothing to install except CIM, Ati stream, HDMI audio etc...

Could you pop me a hardwareID of this device. (Device Manager > Display Adapters > 'Graphic Card' > check the 'Details'-tab has an drop bar and select 'Hardware IDs' > copy me the first line there (Click it and CTRL-C will copy).

It doesn't matter if there's driver installed or not.

Originally Posted by OutGears

Thank you for your answer, you can give me a link towards its drivers? He are not any more available on the first page

The v3.75 work correctly with a HD5970?

yeah, working today to drop up something better. You should for now have v3.80a installed I'm gonna add patch online for it.

as for your HD5970 I am not really sure as basically the current build works with 2xHD5970x2 cards as in 4 GPUs + Eyefinity pretty well, but my question
with a single HD5970 would the single monitor driver still be faster. Can't now recall what kinda monitor system you had.

[Sneakers]

Oi again!

I know your very busy TwL but I'm stuck here bro, cannot figure this out.

Neither of your driver installmanagers display the driver or CCC in the 'custom list'. The driver I can force install and that works ( tested ) but manually installing CCC by installing each little instance one by one have given me issues in the past so not gonna do that this time.

I tested your 3.50 xfire ( 10.5a based ), 3.50 (10.6 based), 3.80a and I get the same wierd result where the installer will not list the actual 'driver string' or CCC.

- the 3.50 version used the 0776 version of the installer but the 3.80a uses the newer 0786 version, same as the 10.8 beta wich does work and shows driver, ccc etc etc - no problem there.

My only solution to this would be to install the 10.8 beta CCC and then mix it with your bundle, but you told me not to before.

If I do mix them ( can't see any other option at this point ) what should I expect then in terms of bugs errors etc? I know the video tab within CCC stop functioning if I mix ( noticed that before ) but is there any other 'hidden' issues? Will the driver function as normal even if I mix the packages ( using the 10.8 Beta CCC ) ?

Really want your performance increases with BC2 for 32 ppl servers !

For the record I'm running on the WDDM1.1 drivers atm and I have driver sweept and manually swooped the registry for all ati and amd bs I could find.

/edit

Oh just saw your new post, let me have a look for the device ID.

[TwL]

@Sneakers

Could you please just answer my question above.

and please stop jumping from conclusion to another that will get this no where.

[Sneakers]

Originally Posted by TwL

Could you pop me a hardwareID of this device. (Device Manager > Display Adapters > 'Graphic Card' > check the 'Details'-tab has an drop bar and select 'Hardware IDs' > copy me the first line there (Click it and CTRL-C will copy).

It doesn't matter if there's driver installed or not.

1st line GPU1:

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_20421002&REV_00

1st line GPU2:

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_25421002&REV_00

[OutGears]

Originally Posted by TwL

yeah, working today to drop up something better. You should for now have v3.80a installed I'm gonna add patch online for it.

as for your HD5970 I am not really sure as basically the current build works with 2xHD5970x2 cards as in 4 GPUs + Eyefinity pretty well, but my question
with a single HD5970 would the single monitor driver still be faster. Can't now recall what kinda monitor system you had.

I have one screen 22 " with for resolution of the 1680x1050.
I look for the best drivers for a HD5970 with a single screen and first and foremost for Starcraft II

Thank you for your exellent work and your answers
and Sorry for my English, I usually speak French

[TwL]

Originally Posted by Sneakers

1st line GPU1:

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_20421002&REV_00

1st line GPU2:

PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_25421002&REV_00

well, there is an mixing device on 4870x2 but it shouldn't affect. I can find no issues on 778 to 786 or well difference here, if the device detection algorithm has changed. 'Bin64\DetectionManager.dll' and 'Bin64\atdcm64a.sys' should deal with it, but I suspect this error is in your windows.

As Hardware IDs are on INF files all which you tested. It should show an 'ATI Display Driver' in installer, but I'm just thinking here as in your system there is now 3 display devices could that mix this at someway I know for sure it will go through HD5970 with same INFs and there's no problem.

There's no difference in driver from v3.80a as an INF sense.

-edit-

could you copy paste these under '[ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1]' (under the '[Manufacturer]' right on start of the 'C7xxxxxx.INF'-file (assuming you are using Windows 7 x64, if not it's 'CHxxxxxx.INF'-file and '[ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.0]'):

"ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2  " = ati2mtag_RV7X, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_20421002
"ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2   " = ati2mtag_RV7X, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_25421002

INF files are at.. '\Packages\Drivers\Display\W76A_INF' with the <space> as they are and try installing.

thinking perhaps there's an missing short name check or something.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Didn't people get those kind of issues using a beta OS or one that was slipstreamed?

[TwL]

Originally Posted by Eastcoasthandle

Didn't people get those kind of issues using a beta OS or one that was slipstreamed?

yep, they did, but even those did work through force install etc etc like current.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Originally Posted by TwL

yep, they did, but even those did work through force install etc etc like current.

I guess it depends on setup then.

[Sneakers]

Originally Posted by TwL

well, there is an mixing device on 4870x2 but it shouldn't affect. I can find no issues on 778 to 786 or well difference here, if the device detection algorithm has changed. 'Bin64\DetectionManager.dll' and 'Bin64\atdcm64a.sys' should deal with it, but I suspect this error is in your windows.

As Hardware IDs are on INF files all which you tested. It should show an 'ATI Display Driver' in installer, but I'm just thinking here as in your system there is now 3 display devices could that mix this at someway I know for sure it will go through HD5970 with same INFs and there's no problem.

There's no difference in driver from v3.80a as an INF sense.

Yah, I think my OS is f'ed up also from the cleaners some weeks ago, but the wierd part is the new 10.8Beta and 10.4a shows the ccc and drivers but 10.5hotfix, 10.7a and your drivers does not.

What would happend if I put the 10.8B 'Bin64\DetectionManager.dll' and 'Bin64\atdcm64a.sys' and put them into your driver package folder? Since this is the only driver I have atm that seems to show everything in the package.

Think that could work?

/edit

Nah didn't work. Ah well I'll take a break from this now, gonna try mixing it tomorrow see how that works, else I guess I have to stay with the 10.8B until I formate again and try it again then

Thanks alot for the help though man, appriciate it alot!

/edit2

I'm gonna try pasting that info in the .inf! report how it goes in a min!

/edit3

Ok tried inserting ""ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 " = ati2mtag_RV7X, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_20421002
"ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 " = ati2mtag_RV7X, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9441&SUBSYS_25421002", under the line in the .inf within the package folder as you described and then running the .exe but still cannot find/see the driver and CCC ..

Ah well was worth a try atleast.

[TwL]

@Sneakers

We can continue the chat on Private messages you can message me. last post up. ok? as pushing new Eyefinity / CFX builds now up.

-edit-

Hmm, re-readed, a bit of your edits. I believe that your system is faulting someway really odd here, atm. There's no one else with same card, but yet I
cannot find anything even similar to these errors you are having on any of system I have testing access on.

In other words, dunno, what it is. My best guess would be that something was dropped on ATI/AMD installer for this absolute exact system set you
got, but well you can as well use the 3.0.778.0 installer with anything. It's not like it would make a difference as long you don't change apps or drivers with it.

@commonly

Well, as above. I am adding new EyeFinity Builds up now v3.90a. These ones will be Final Versions. So, no experimental stuff.

In general Codemasters games (Grid, Dirt, Dirt 2). You really wanna check or re-patch the games. Seems that they have some weird way of getting working while this is done.

[OutGears]

TwL you think that your driver v3.90 is well to play Starcraft II on a HD5970?
To avoid having to reinstall the others

[Black_ice_Spain]

Originally Posted by Sneakers

Oi again!

I know your very busy TwL but I'm stuck here bro, cannot figure this out.

Neither of your driver installmanagers display the driver or CCC in the 'custom list'. The driver I can force install and that works ( tested ) but manually installing CCC by installing each little instance one by one have given me issues in the past so not gonna do that this time.

I tested your 3.50 xfire ( 10.5a based ), 3.50 (10.6 based), 3.80a and I get the same wierd result where the installer will not list the actual 'driver string' or CCC.

- the 3.50 version used the 0776 version of the installer but the 3.80a uses the newer 0786 version, same as the 10.8 beta wich does work and shows driver, ccc etc etc - no problem there.

My only solution to this would be to install the 10.8 beta CCC and then mix it with your bundle, but you told me not to before.

If I do mix them ( can't see any other option at this point ) what should I expect then in terms of bugs errors etc? I know the video tab within CCC stop functioning if I mix ( noticed that before ) but is there any other 'hidden' issues? Will the driver function as normal even if I mix the packages ( using the 10.8 Beta CCC ) ?

Really want your performance increases with BC2 for 32 ppl servers !

For the record I'm running on the WDDM1.1 drivers atm and I have driver sweept and manually swooped the registry for all ati and amd bs I could find.

/edit

Oh just saw your new post, let me have a look for the device ID.

if you want to remove bad-unistallations with CCC download "windows install clean up". Its a tool to remove all things from microsoft installer. Remove everything CCC related there (starts with ccc-xxx) and then try to reinstall it.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Securit...-Utility.shtml

it appears on all-programes at start menu after installing

[TwL]

Originally Posted by OutGears

TwL you think that your driver v3.90 is well to play Starcraft II on a HD5970?
To avoid having to reinstall the others

no.. AA would be missing even while sure they would multi-thread this game does not require GPU power at all.

Would use the currently second Post v3.80a for SC2 as from current. I added now patch for v3.90a on first page to include SC2 AA with the new EyeFinity build (with restore option) just as for support.

@commonly

As soon as I get back to the single Monitor/GPU setups and optimize those. We will get so called 'fast driver'. CFX and EyeFinity doesn't really need speed they
need stable processing through with a bit boost and completely their own installation which is pretty hard to test and complete the build. Much harder
than something I can see directly on my end & simply build an truly functional driver.

Hmm, you QuadfireX - Eyefinity giants could pop me a message on how the new v3.90a is now working. It took quite a bit testing and there's still
games we detected some sort of issue (although, I build simply patch and go for one of those titles'SC2' and I am not sure now does the other 'dirt 2'
actually be only problem on this one unique machine we were testing. There is something really weird on these Codemasters driving games, but I believe
the solution is in the games themself and not in the 'driver'.). O and sorry for it needing a reboot and not working clean by update only there was an
processing module I needed to switch only changed inside system while installing (btw, same module which makes this set pretty ununsable for single
display/card setups).

[OutGears]

Thanks i try the v3.80a

[Hans Dampf]

3.90a CFX Eyefinity

Just finished some first testing on CFX 4GPUs on stock speed powering 6000x1080 incl. AA:


this new set is just amazing!

it is not only about the big FPS boost in games crossover .. under CFX Eyefinity

it is like .. stuttering ..even microstuttering is totally gone !

Codemasters: OK, I cannot play Dirt and Dirt 2 .. but Grid runs just awesome @ 120FPS.. pure race feeling without even slightest drop in heavy scenario!


- Risen .. just ****ing great at 85-100 FPS!!

- COD:MW2 .. (keeps 2GPUs) .. but gaming at 100-150 FPS !

- Crysis: already mentioned: BRILLIANT !!! at 100FPS in game !!

- HAWX: 240FPS stable .. and just WOW in gaming ..

- BF:BC2: fastest and most smooth test done on this rig so far .. gameplay is great and smooth

- all games I have tested did not show any FPS drop on smoke effects.


You have broken a barrier today on 'Quadfinity' Setups !!

I have never seen 4GPUs playing such a beautiful quartett on three screens !!


Congrats!!! You can do things on drivers, which are just unbelievable GREAT !!!

[TwL]

@Hans Dampf

We'll see what others say. As I like to think every machine has it's own soul, but looks damn good start.

-edit-

btw, heck it took quite some time to understand the v10.7/v10.8 builds ATI sure loves to mix the deck.

[crushilista]

Originally Posted by TwL

no.. AA would be missing even while sure they would multi-thread this game does not require GPU power at all.

Would use the currently second Post v3.80a for SC2 as from current. I added now patch for v3.90a on first page to include SC2 AA with the new EyeFinity build (with restore option) just as for support.

@commonly

As soon as I get back to the single Monitor/GPU setups and optimize those. We will get so called 'fast driver'.

[For Victory]

Should a 5970 with one display use the 3.90a driver?

[TwL]

Originally Posted by For Victory

Should a 5970 with one display use the 3.90a driver?

You can try it see how it works. It should multi-thread better over this setup.

However, these x2 cards are really tricky for me to valuate as it also depends on display size where something works. Anyway, there will be build v3.95 which
will be for Single Card/CFX with low resolution where I will push every effort to drop processing as high as it goes for my personal setup this might work with
HD5970 very much faster than 3.90a or be bad because it can't process through 2 GPUs correctly, but HD5970 has an internal functionality where these
cards works where normal 2 card CFX would not which kinda makes v3.95 possibility to have a chance.

Hopefully I was mixing enough.

[capchaos]

figured what was wrong with grid. in the hardware settings restrictions in the system folder it is not showing the correct available vid mem. it shows 270mb but if u change it to 978 and the width from 1024 to ur max width mine is 6048. the game will have all the available resolutions.

[TwL]

Originally Posted by capchaos

figured what was wrong with grid. in the hardware settings restrictions in the system folder it is not showing the correct available vid mem. it shows 270mb but if u change it to 978 and the width from 1024 to ur max width mine is 6048. the game will have all the available resolutions.

Thanks for the solution.

Really nice to see someone took a deeper look on these huge systems since I have no chance to do so (or run things in my screen to check).

-edit-

and linked to first page

-edit-

hmm, wonder would this apply on Dirt / Dirt 2 of Hans Dampf there because these are all same engine with exception of DirectX level.

[capchaos]

its pretty much the same reason as gta4 where it cant read the correct mem on quad cards bc it will show a toatal vid mem available as 4g and but only lets u use 270m. and to fix that u would have to use the command line -availablevidmem 0.5 to get it to work properly.

[capchaos]

as for dirt2 i have no problems on my end. no slowdowns on the menus select screen at all stays locked at 60fps with vsync. so i dont know what the prob is on his end. and no problems in game either.

[Shekers]

Whenever I play Dirt 2, I always have to disable my secondary monitor (i don't use it for the game). With the secondary monitor on, there's micro-stuttering. If i only have my primary monitor on (for the game), it's relatively smooth. This driver...i can't put my finger on it, but it's not as smooth as previous drivers (maybe placebo effect? lol).