RadeonPro BETA (Automating 3D Settings) - Page 5

dox_aus · *Last edited by dox_aus; 05-24-2010 at 14:25.*

Managed to track down my UE 'value' issue with a registry analyzer

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Class\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0000\UMD
Name: FlipQueueSize
Old: hex:32,00,37,00
Now: hex:32,00,38,00

Something screwy with the flipqueuesize, modified the registry value and radpro loaded without error, but after playing around with settings and quitting came back again, so deleted the whole flipqueue reg entry and has loaded fine since. Also goes to taskbar now when quitting, altho still no settings actually do anything in-game.

japamd · 05-24-2010, 16:43 | posts: 2,267 | Location: Brazil

Fixed the FlipQueueSize and other small issues, please try the new build 1.0.4.5.

Thanks.

TwL · 05-24-2010, 16:45 | posts: 1,827 | Location: Finland

that flipqueue is incorrect. It should change between:

30 00 00 00 = 0
31 00 00 00 = 1
32 00 00 00 = 2
33 00 00 00 = 3
34 00 00 00 = 4

in not between values. (and this only applies v10.3b->v10.4)

dox_aus · 05-24-2010, 17:20 | posts: 246 | Location: West Australia

Latest update broken now :/

japamd · *Last edited by japamd; 05-24-2010 at 18:05.*

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwL

that flipqueue is incorrect. It should change between:

30 00 00 00 = 0
31 00 00 00 = 1
32 00 00 00 = 2
33 00 00 00 = 3
34 00 00 00 = 4

in not between values. (and this only applies v10.3b->v10.4)

The value was wrong, indeed. Fixed that in last build.

About the 4 bytes requirement, I'll check that, thanks.

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Originally Posted by dox_aus

Latest update broken now :/

[MG]http://members.iinet.net.au/~d0x/radproerror2.gif[/IMG]

Please verify if service is running, open Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> View Local Services and check if RadeonPro Support Service is installed and running.

Konrad321 · 05-24-2010, 18:20 | posts: 259

What about the lod steps? There is only one, two, three etc. You can add 0.1 0.2 0.3 and so one for better adjustment. I can tell you how it works via registry.

Shocky-XL · 05-24-2010, 18:43 | posts: 36 | Location: UK

Need some help, played round with the crossfire settings only to find every single game now has corrupt graphics with crossfire enabled.

I've uninstall RadeonPro, re-installed the driver but the problem remains. How do I completely remove this software and undo whatever it's done?

TwL · *Last edited by TwL; 05-24-2010 at 19:14.*

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Originally Posted by japamd

About the 4 bytes requirement, I'll check that, thanks.

The 4 byte is correct, but I am uncertain of secondary value in those as I am unsure can the flipqueue exceed value 10 and enable couple be also similar as ATI Aniso levels as in:
31 00 34 00
-^-----^ Level 4
Enable

would be correct, but does the Flip Queue act same on new Catalyst 10.4. As in old v10.2 that would be simply marked as string '4' and on new versions '34 00 00 00' is also enabled level 4.

Hell, if you ask me I am surprise Cat devel ain't already mixed on these ;P

dox_aus · 05-24-2010, 18:52 | posts: 246 | Location: West Australia

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Originally Posted by japamd

Please verify if service is running, open Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> View Local Services and check if RadeonPro Support Service is installed and running.

yep, started and running.

japamd · 05-24-2010, 20:09 | posts: 2,267 | Location: Brazil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrad321

What about the lod steps? There is only one, two, three etc. You can add 0.1 0.2 0.3 and so one for better adjustment. I can tell you how it works via registry.

ATT doesn't have 0.1 adjustments for LOD, but I can try it if it's possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shocky-XL

Need some help, played round with the crossfire settings only to find every single game now has corrupt graphics with crossfire enabled.

I've uninstall RadeonPro, re-installed the driver but the problem remains. How do I completely remove this software and undo whatever it's done?

You may just have changed MVPUMode. Try this: install RadeonPro and create a profile setting MVPUMode to AFR, launch the game and press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring on task manager. Close RadeonPro process in task manager, then close game process too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwL

The 4 byte is correct, but I am uncertain of secondary value in those as I am unsure can the flipqueue exceed value 10 and enable couple be also similar as ATI Aniso levels as in:
31 00 34 00
-^-----^ Level 4
Enable

would be correct, but does the Flip Queue act same on new Catalyst 10.4. As in old v10.2 that would be simply marked as string '4' and on new versions '34 00 00 00' is also enabled level 4.

Hell, if you ask me I am surprise Cat devel ain't already mixed on these ;P

The sequence 30 00 00 00 translates to 0000, 31 00 00 00 to 0001 and so on. I'm not sure if FlipQueueSize is even supported by all drivers as this registry key is undocumented. My guess is that 31 00 is the same as 31 00 00 00.

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Originally Posted by dox_aus

yep, started and running.

That's weird. I'll try to find out what is wrong.

Konrad321 · 05-24-2010, 20:19 | posts: 259

Quote:

Originally Posted by japamd

ATT doesn't have 0.1 adjustments for LOD, but I can try it if it's possible.

I don't know why ATT doesn't have it, it should have it. That's why I ask you.

Shocky-XL · 05-24-2010, 20:26 | posts: 36 | Location: UK

Quote:

Originally Posted by japamd

You may just have changed MVPUMode. Try this: install RadeonPro and create a profile setting MVPUMode to AFR, launch the game and press Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring on task manager. Close RadeonPro process in task manager, then close game process too.

Tried installing the newer version, says failed to start service and won't start, however I still had the only file, tried changing mode and nothing seems to be happening.

I can hear the noise so the profile is kicking in but graphics are still currupt after ending both tasks.

Maybe I should try a system restore.

TwL · *Last edited by TwL; 05-24-2010 at 20:40.*

Quote:

Originally Posted by japamd

The sequence 30 00 00 00 translates to 0000, 31 00 00 00 to 0001 and so on. I'm not sure if FlipQueueSize is even supported by all drivers as this registry key is undocumented. My guess is that 31 00 is the same as 31 00 00 00.

FlipQueueSize is supported that's for sure (heh, you'd be surprice how much they leave out on documents

). as for '31 00' is same would be no. yeah there is '31 00' which is 10 and '30 00' which would be 00, but it seems this is only used with functions which has only 'enable' or 'disable' as proper value, however, as I pointed out example there for example 'AnisoDegree' uses 4 bytes same manner where as said '31 00 34 00' would translate '1040' as in enabled - 4 where '34 00' could possibly also go through, but I doubt this on 10.3-> drivers as all are marked as 4 bytes automatically, if you check them.

Although, I ain't sure 'FlipQueueSize' is actually correct way to set it to set it at all.

As what you answered on LOD I believe it would be OpenGLLODBias, but not sure as I tested the LOD a bit and I just cannot make any change to it.

Sneakers · 05-24-2010, 20:31 | posts: 2,631 | Location: Sweden

Impressive work, keep up the good job man!

japamd · 05-24-2010, 20:43 | posts: 2,267 | Location: Brazil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrad321

I don't know why ATT doesn't have it, it should have it. That's why I ask you.

How can we test it? Can you give some directions?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shocky-XL

Tried installing the newer version, says failed to start service and won't start, however I still had the only file, tried changing mode and nothing seems to be happening.

I can hear the noise so the profile is kicking in but graphics are still currupt after ending both tasks.

Maybe I should try a system restore.

If service can't be started then settings will not be applied. Try a system restore, the installer always create a restore point.

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Originally Posted by Sneakers

Impressive work, keep up the good job man!

Thanks!

Gromuhl'Djun · 05-24-2010, 21:26 | posts: 5,208 | Location: Netherlands

Quote:

Originally Posted by dox_aus

Latest update broken now :/

I have the same problem with the new version. The service is running on my rig as well....

Keep the updates coming! I'll follow this one closely as it really has promise!

Shocky-XL · 05-24-2010, 21:30 | posts: 36 | Location: UK

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Originally Posted by japamd

H
If service can't be started then settings will not be applied. Try a system restore, the installer always create a restore point.
Thanks!

Works with the previous version though, anyway system restore did the trick.

I won't be playing round with crossfire settings again.

japamd · 05-24-2010, 21:42 | posts: 2,267 | Location: Brazil

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Originally Posted by Gromuhl'Djun

I have the same problem with the new version. The service is running on my rig as well....

Keep the updates coming! I'll follow this one closely as it really has promise!

Are you running 1.0.4.5 or 1.0.4.6 ?

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shocky-XL

Works with the previous version though, anyway system restore did the trick.

I won't be playing round with crossfire settings again.

Those MVPU modes, other than AFR which is the default setting, doesn't make Crossfire any better AFAIK, maybe older games have some benefit using other types like Split Frame Rendering and so on. I put that feature because someone requested it on ATT forums.

JaylumX · **Memory**: 8GB Corsair DDR3 8-8-8-24

I get this error message before startup

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Peezee · 05-24-2010, 23:54 | posts: 2,617 | Location: Denmark

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Originally Posted by MerolaC

Wow, this looks really nice.
I gonna give it a try as soon as possible.
Thank you!

Yeah, this looks great. I'll try it out

HaZe303 · 05-25-2010, 00:20 | posts: 1,938 | Location: Sweden

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Originally Posted by JaylumX

I get this error message before startup

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Last version worked fine for me, but I get this with the latest version. And when I start the software it always asks if I want to start the radeon Pro Support Service, if I press yes, nothing happens?

japamd · 05-25-2010, 01:24 | posts: 2,267 | Location: Brazil

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Originally Posted by JaylumX

I get this error message before startup

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That means the GUI can't communicate with service, without that communication no 3D settings will be modifiable in registry.

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Originally Posted by HaZe303

Last version worked fine for me, but I get this with the latest version. And when I start the software it always asks if I want to start the radeon Pro Support Service, if I press yes, nothing happens?

Please verify if "RadeonPro Support Service" exists and it's running.

Another thing: is someone *not* having problems? Didn't hear positive experiences on last few pages....

JaylumX · **Memory**: 8GB Corsair DDR3 8-8-8-24

Originally Posted by JaylumX View Post
I get this error message before startup

[IM]http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7956/errorfp.jpg[/IMG]

So what do i have to do to get rid of that error or is it something that has to be fixed on your end?

japamd · *Last edited by japamd; 05-25-2010 at 02:54.*

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaylumX

Originally Posted by JaylumX View Post
I get this error message before startup

[IM]http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7956/errorfp.jpg[/IMG]

So what do i have to do to get rid of that error or is it something that has to be fixed on your end?

I guess there's something related to security that needs to be fixed.

I'm using .NET Remoting for communication between the GUI/core and the Service, to be able to use Remoting in Windows Service I needed to use the same security users group (Everyone) on both ends, my guess is that with non-english operating systems the name "Everyone" is not valid for the users group, giving that error.

I'm researching about it now, wish me luck....

Edit: my guess was right, I think it's fixed now on non-english operating systems. Download build 1.0.4.7 and please report if service communication issue is gone for good

Edit 2: seems like some systems got FlipQueueSize value and/or other settings screwed in registry resulting in low image quality and other issues, build 1.0.4.7 has a Reset driver defaults option in Settings, it will reset 3d driver registry entries to known good values.

JaylumX · **Memory**: 8GB Corsair DDR3 8-8-8-24

Quote:

Originally Posted by japamd

I guess there's something related to security that needs to be fixed.

I'm using .NET Remoting for communication between the GUI/core and the Service, to be able to use Remoting in Windows Service I needed to use the same security users group (Everyone) on both ends, my guess is that with non-english operating systems the name "Everyone" is not valid for the users group, giving that error.

I'm researching about it now, wish me luck....

Edit: my guess was right, I think it's fixed now on non-english operating systems. Download build 1.0.4.7 and please report if service communication issue is gone for good

Edit 2: seems like some systems got FlipQueueSize value and/or other settings screwed in registry resulting in low image quality and other issues, build 1.0.4.7 has a Reset driver defaults option in Settings, it will reset 3d driver registry entries to known good values.

I still get the error

I am on a British English OS if that is any help.

Also version 44 worked, any version after that didn't