blame wow or my isp or blame both ?

Zer0K3wL · **Memory**: 3x 2gb ddr3 1603 9-9-9-24

Tracing route to 80-239-149-56.customer.teliacarrier.com [80.239.149.56]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 Zer0K3wL-PC.ensch1.ov.home.nl [xx.xx.xxx.xx]
1 10.206.0.1
2 csw1-vlan201.hnglo1.ov.home.nl [213.51.138.1]
3 zl-rc0001-cr101-ae3-0.core.as9143.net [213.51.158.125]
4 asd-lc0006-cr101-ae3-0.core.as9143.net [213.51.158.100]
5 hbg-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.252.41]
6 ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.64.42]
7 ffm-b10-link.telia.net [80.91.247.77]
8 * * *
Computing statistics for 175 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 Zer0K3wL-PC.ensch1.ov.home.nl [XXXXXX]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 --- 100/ 100 =100% 100/ 100 =100% 10.206.0.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
2 19ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% csw1-vlan201.hnglo1.ov.home.nl [21
3.51.138.1]
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 11ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% zl-rc0001-cr101-ae3-0.core.as9143.
net [213.51.158.125]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 13ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% asd-lc0006-cr101-ae3-0.core.as9143
.net [213.51.158.100]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 21ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% hbg-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.252.
41]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 32ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.64
.42]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 29ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% ffm-b10-link.telia.net [80.91.247.
77]

Trace complete.

i dunno wth to do anymore if been calling my isp everytime.

also contacting blizzard tech support.
all they are ignorant point me back forward pointing fingers.

also pathpinging anything i always have packet loss on 1e hop.

if i pathping to this forum if got 1% packet loss on last hop.

seriously getting so tired off this thinking i'm just going cancel my wow acount as they dont seem to care.

Erqury · **Memory**: 8Gb DDR3 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24

Did you just hand us your IP address :| hope its not static

Tequila · *Last edited by Tequila; 03-15-2010 at 14:30.*

Could you correctly format that pathping? It's very difficult to discern whats going on :/

[Edit]

Any that read as 100% packetloss are because they are back-bone servers that deny ping-requests to prevent DDoS - 1% is not enough packetloss to cause game-issues.

What is the problem you are having?

Zer0K3wL · 03-15-2010, 14:27 | posts: 3,088

i just call my isp and change it if i want to
removed it anyway's now.

still this anoying me so hard atm.. as if i'm being ripped off by 2 company's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tequila

Could you correctly format that pathping? It's very difficult to discern whats going on :/

no i cant somehow cous command prompt size is messed up.
edit: seeing if i can somehow fix it tough unlikely.

Tequila · 03-15-2010, 14:30 | posts: 569 | Location: London

Please look at my adjusted post :p

Zer0K3wL · 03-15-2010, 14:31 | posts: 3,088

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tequila

Please look at my adjusted post :p

just read i'm guessing the same but blizzard keeps nagging that its not.
anyway if having masive lag at raid hours playing wow its abnormal any normal user would just rage quit and cancel acount already.

Tequila · 03-15-2010, 14:33 | posts: 569 | Location: London

Quote:

Originally Posted by zer0kewl

just read i'm guessing the same but blizzard keeps nagging that its not.
anyway if having masive lag at raid hours playing wow its abnormal any normal user would just rage quit and cancel acount already.

I'm still unsure of what problem you are currently facing.

A 100% packetloss reading on any of those hops will not adversely effect your internet, it is due to it being a non-pingable backbone server.

1% of packetloss is only to this forum, what is the packetloss on blizzards server?

Also, I still need more information on the problem you are facing - is it disconnects from game?

Zer0K3wL · 03-15-2010, 14:34 | posts: 3,088

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tequila

I'm still unsure of what problem you are currently facing.

A 100% packetloss reading on any of those hops will not adversely effect your internet, it is due to it being a non-pingable backbone server.

1% of packetloss is only to this forum, what is the packetloss on blizzards server?

Also, I still need more information on the problem you are facing - is it disconnects from game?

well at raid hours.

having masive delay's with instant cast spells due lag.
2 3 sec delay then no delay etc so on.
and contineu's like all evening.

to translate for non wow gamers.

imagine playing tf2 you shoot but it takes 6 sec to fire then 3 sec sometimes their no delay.

the 1% packet loss is on www.guru3d.com
it does't keep me awake tough.

Tequila · 03-15-2010, 14:39 | posts: 569 | Location: London

Quote:

Originally Posted by zer0kewl

well at raid hours.

having masive delay's with instant cast spells due lag.
2 3 sec delay then no delay etc so on.
and contineu's like all evening.

to translate for non wow gamers.

imagine playing tf2 you shoot but it takes 6 sec to fire then 3 sec sometimes their no delay.

the 1% packet loss is on www.guru3d.com
it does't keep me awake tough.

Raid hours also known as peak hours - I imagine you're probably on a congested internet exchange.

When you are next raiding, open a CMD prompt:

ping -t www.google.nl

Allow it to run in the background while you play, this will show the average latency on your connection during peak-hours. If this is high, the fault lies with your ISP, if it is low then the fault lies with WoW.

Hope this helps.

[Edit]

Let it run for 20 - 30 minutes when you experience the problem, then stop it with Control + C: It will display ping-statistics.

WhiteLightning · 03-15-2010, 14:39 | posts: 20,604 | Location: Netherlands

have you tried pingplotter, its a program so you can easily see if there's more than meets the eye.
i know ive had problems with UPC a couple of years ago. massive packetloss. took 4 months to get back to normal.

Zer0K3wL · 03-15-2010, 14:46 | posts: 3,088

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteLightning

have you tried pingplotter, its a program so you can easily see if there's more than meets the eye.
i know ive had problems with UPC a couple of years ago. massive packetloss. took 4 months to get back to normal.

i'm having ziggo actualy with ubee modem wich known having issues.
anyway if not tryit pingplotter what i'm supose to do with it ?

WhiteLightning · 03-15-2010, 14:48 | posts: 20,604 | Location: Netherlands

Quote:

Originally Posted by zer0kewl

i'm having ziggo actualy with ubee modem wich known having issues.
anyway if not tryit pingplotter what i'm supose to do with it ?

well i would mail them a screenshot of it.

it will look somehting like this

Zer0K3wL · 03-15-2010, 14:49 | posts: 3,088

Mine looks 1 kindy red atm

I'm guessing cous most off the nodes are being blocked ping request

edit: posting 1 off guru3d inc so can tell diferences.

edit: they just banned me for 3 hours complaining about the lag aint that just awesome way to fix things >_<

edit: now they replied saying i'm running to many proceses and stuff.
really like i care............

Zer0K3wL · 03-17-2010, 22:28 | posts: 3,088

decided to quit wow afterall blizzard do is leech my money.
as tech support can only act like clowns over at blizzard.

Inspire08 · 03-17-2010, 23:01 | posts: 57 | Location: Alabama

http://www.wowinterface.com/download...atencyFix.html

You should try this, nifty script. Lowered my latency by 50-75 on WoW. And though Blizzard does have some issues sometimes with their servers, their tech will find and fix it and post any issues on the forums and frontpage of the login screen.Also if other guildies of yours are having the same issue than it would be Blizzard at fault. So i believe it could very well be your ISP/internet or your computer itself. I myself on a high populated server haven't had any lag issues during raid hours. How long has the issue been going on?

Mineria · 03-18-2010, 20:11 | posts: 2,897 | Location: Denmark

Only issues concerning lag spikes which I noticed in wow are server script dependent on certain fights.

The nagle hack fixes latency by up to 50% for most tcp using mmorpg's.
Have yet to hear from players I know that it didn't reduce their latency.

What is your in-game ping alike?