196.21 WHQL Breaks AB and Precision...

Discussion in 'MSI AfterBurner Application Development Forum' started by HeavyHemi, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. HeavyHemi

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    No control of any GPU frequencies on Nvidia GPU's.
     
  2. Unwinder

    Unwinder Ancient Guru Staff Member

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    Bad luck for NVIDIA owners then. Don't expect a quick fix. I'm currently busy with more priority tasks, have AlwaysTroublesInside GPUs in all my home PCs and won't be able to start even to investigate it within at least a week.
     
  3. HeavyHemi

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    Okay. I'll pass that along. Thanks for the quick update
     
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  5. Unwinder

    Unwinder Ancient Guru Staff Member

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    In meanwhile, can somebody with NVIDIA card and 196.21 run Afterburner/Precison with /BE (Build Emulator) command line switch? It will capture NVIDIA driver's API state into special emulator file called NVAPIEmulator.cfg. I'd like to see the contents of such emulator file, probably it will point out a quick solution.
    After doing that, don't forget to remove the emulator file, otherwise Afterburner/Precision will function in hardware emulation mode.
     
  6. HeavyHemi

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    Here ya go


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  7. Unwinder

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    From this dump it looks looks like NV changed clock domain IDs due to some odd reason (most likely there are more different clock domains coming in GF100 chips?). So it should be rather easy to fix.
    Under such conditions only shader clock control should be disabled in current Precision/Afterburner (I use domain ID checking for shader clock only and always treat the first two domains as core/memory clock domians). Is shader clock control slider the only clock slider disabled now?
     
  8. HeavyHemi

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    Yes the shader is the only one that is disabled and does not display frequency. If you try setting new clocks they return to their original values when you hit apply.
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2010
  9. Wanny

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    I'll follow this carefully. I need mah OCz + SLI support with Battlefield beta next week!!!
     
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    Where did you find that drivers? on Nvidia page it is still 195.62 WHQL and 195.81 BETA
     

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    Get them here. Download links are in the first post.
     
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    Yes I found it :)
    F5 solves problem :))
    Thanks
     
  14. theGryphon

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    Unwinder will nail the solution soon, hopefully...
     
  15. Unwinder

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    That's absolutely expected with changed clock domain IDs, thanks for confirming.

    Which clocks are you trying to set? Without bumping shader clock core clock is limited by shader_clock/2. Don't think that NVIDIA changed anything besides that, try to boost core clock just a bit to stay within shader_clock/2 range,or change just the memory clock leaving core clock at defaults. Most likely it will work,
     

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    Tried what you suggested and still can't get the Shader slider to work. Unless I am misunderstanding your suggestion.
     
  17. kENSHu

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    I'm having teh same problem here since i installed the 196.21 drivers... :<
     
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    It wont let you adjust memory clock even a little.As soon as you hit apply, it goes back to default.
     
  19. Wanny

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    Yep, can't even put +1 mhz, it will always go back to default. I'm not worried much for now since I'm not playing crazy intensive games like Crysis.
     
  20. civato

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    Everest ultimate still reads all the clocks , so also the shader clock.
    But overclocking doesn't work any more , the voltage control is ok.
    Fan mode = ok
     

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