GeForce GTX380 and GTX360 Spotted - Photos and Specifications - Page 7

zer0_c0ol · 12-09-2009, 21:10 | posts: 1,854 | Location: mostar(BIH)

2 late 2 much power hungry 2 expensive = ati 2900xt fiasco

Anarion · 12-09-2009, 21:28 | posts: 9,272 | Location: Finland

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Originally Posted by zer0_c0ol

2 late 2 much power hungry 2 expensive = ati 2900xt fiasco

I wouldn't say that. HD 2x00 cards where slow too. I am pretty sure that this is not and about that power, well, we will see about that in the future. It's almost impossible to find Radeon HD 58x0 cards here in Finland (availability is poor everywhere) so NVIDIA isn't losing much.

zer0_c0ol · 12-09-2009, 21:34 | posts: 1,854 | Location: mostar(BIH)

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Originally Posted by Anarion

I wouldn't say that. HD 2x00 cards where slow too. I am pretty sure that this is not and about that power, well, we will see about that in the future. It's almost impossible to find Radeon HD 58x0 cards here in Finland (availability is poor everywhere) so NVIDIA isn't losing much.

well

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16767/1/

GC_PaNzerFIN · 12-09-2009, 23:36 | posts: 1,045 | Location: Finland

fun fact: Just noticed the guy in the pic has same monitor as I do. Samsung 2233RZ 120Hz <3

vbetts · 12-09-2009, 23:42 | posts: 10,243 | Location: Toledo Ohio

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Originally Posted by Anarion

I wouldn't say that. HD 2x00 cards where slow too. I am pretty sure that this is not and about that power, well, we will see about that in the future. It's almost impossible to find Radeon HD 58x0 cards here in Finland (availability is poor everywhere) so NVIDIA isn't losing much.

It's not that the hd2x00 cards were slow, but the architecture of the chip wasn't all that great or efficient.

But man, if these cards are suppose to be faster then the 5970, then it's gonna be interesting to see how current cpus handle these.

MAD-OGRE · 12-09-2009, 23:56 | posts: 2,839 | Location: Alabama

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Originally Posted by vbetts

It's not that the hd2x00 cards were slow, but the architecture of the chip wasn't all that great or efficient. .

but that 5500 FX sure is

vbetts · 12-10-2009, 00:00 | posts: 10,243 | Location: Toledo Ohio

Hell no it's not. I'm just ****ing poor.

zer0_c0ol · 12-10-2009, 00:00 | posts: 1,854 | Location: mostar(BIH)

imho if these rummors are true then this card has some wicked power issues

6+8 pin power plugs for a single chip card anyone

dchalf10 · 12-10-2009, 00:26 | posts: 4,044

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Originally Posted by zer0_c0ol

imho if these rummors are true then this card has some wicked power issues

6+8 pin power plugs for a single chip card anyone

My GTX280 has a 6+8 pin, it's no big deal

Redemption80 · 12-10-2009, 02:11 | posts: 13,532 | Location: Glasgow

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Originally Posted by Corrupt^

Strange, all of the high end single gpu cards were €450 - €550 on release here in Belgium. Aren't you people overreacting with prices or is it really that bad in the US?

Well the 5970 averages about £530 here in the UK, which is about €590, or $860 at the current rate, so its fine in the US its us in Europe who are being shunted.

No idea why that article thinks the high end GPU market is where the highest profits are at, when its the opposite.
Nvidia maybe losing credibility with the delay of these cards, but cetainly not money.

Bodar · 12-10-2009, 02:19 | posts: 2,466 | Location: Austin

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Originally Posted by thecake90

Says the guy with the 5870 quad fire H2O setup!! WTF man seriously xD !!!

Computer hardware is like drinking sea water, it would only make you more thirsty

I definitely wont keep the other setup though.. I'm giving away 1 5870 before christmas in the cs tournament and the other 3 I'll just sell to my friends here for cheap.. probably around 250-300 bucks or so

cheers!!

Bodar · 12-10-2009, 02:23 | posts: 2,466 | Location: Austin

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Originally Posted by avivoni

this guy is just looking to raise his post count.

wow your full of ****

im mad I made a reply just for this but then i had to say it.

Avivoni.. Hey brotha... Hope that's not directed toward me..

cheers

TheHunter · 12-10-2009, 03:04 | posts: 13,439 | Location: √╥²

nah

he meant that "spammer" Jcazz

getsuga12 · 12-10-2009, 04:57 | posts: 4,372

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Originally Posted by Corrupt^

But then again, which proper pc builder buys his stuff from some local weirdo that sells basically all of his stuff overpriced.

I got my HD5850 for $210 on the 2nd week of release from a local retailer lol

It'd be interesting if Nvidia does release the GTX380/360 at a reasonable price, but that would mean a big loss for them if the cards are considerably more powerful than ATi's line-up. Time will tell, we're just a month away from next year

FlawleZ · 12-10-2009, 05:17 | posts: 4,263 | Location: San Antonio

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Originally Posted by Laykun

That would be single precision and double precision floating point operations.

These figures don't seem all that far fetched, although they really seem to be killing the GTX 360 there with only 384 shader units.

I'm still led to believe that either these results are fake or written by an idiot. I say idiot in the lightest sense, this is because Core clock by convention refers to the GPU core clock, and the core clock he has listed is what I can only assume as the shader clocks. The shader units do not constitute as a core of a graphics card, only part of it.

The 384 shaders on the GTX360 is a little hard to believe and is a real shot in the foot for that class of graphics adapter making it hard to swallow but could indeed be true as nvidia did something similar with the GTX260, 8800GTS, 7800GT and 6800nu. Although this latest news would put it at the extreme of those cases, a full 25% cut in shader units for that card, putting it on par with the 6800nu and 8800GTS. The GTX260 only suffered a 20% decrease in cores on release.

Well Remember Nvidia doesn't want its own products competing against each other. The GTX 260 and 280 did just that. The enthusiast gamer could look at both cards and say, "each of these will play all of my favorite games exceptionally well with high settings." However, the price difference vs performance wasn't as justifiable. Nvidia probably feels it should distinguish the two cards even more so than the GTX 200 series thus hopefully selling more GTX 380 cards and HOPEFULLY making the GTX 360 more affordable.

Jcazz · 12-10-2009, 06:35 | posts: 860

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Originally Posted by TheHunter

nah

he meant that "spammer" Jcazz

yeah i am a spammer for being informative..idiot.

We are going to need new cpus anyways for anything 3 gpu..of new tech.

I just got my 3way crossfirex setup running and at 4ghz i saw more of an improvemnt but its not enough

3GTX 380 wont even run that well unless intel comes out with something faster..

If you plan on doing anything 3way new tech or quad, u are going to need to wait for Intel and AMD to get something out.

GC_PaNzerFIN · 12-10-2009, 06:38 | posts: 1,045 | Location: Finland

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Originally Posted by Jcazz

yeah i am a spammer for being informative..idiot.

We are going to need new cpus anyways for anything 3 gpu..of new tech.

I just got my 3way crossfirex setup running and at 4ghz i saw more of an improvemnt but its not enough

3GTX 380 wont even run that well unless intel comes out with something faster..

If you plan on doing anything 3way new tech or quad, u are going to need to wait for Intel and AMD to get something out.

Thsoe who buy 3 ways SLi go for LN2 anyway.... lol...

Jcazz · 12-10-2009, 07:13 | posts: 860

Well LN2 if u ask me is a waste, it only does quick benchies not hours of pure gameplay..

What happened to people playing games anymore anyways.

The next best thing i am going to have to do is get a chiller Unit..1/5hp to get water temps down to 35F and get a waterblock for the motherboard as it is on fire.

The cpu isnt even that bad its the damn mainboard chipset..produces so much heat it isnt funny.

kapu · 12-10-2009, 08:43 | posts: 3,530 | Location: Poland

WHY I get this feeling that we are closer and closer to permanent CPU bottleneck.

Since no game is using quads, and obviously GPUs are developing faster, actually much

faster than CPUs, and since we cant expect any big jump in graphics right now, i supsect

we will hit bottleneck soon , really hard, i'm talking here about 19x12 res, on lower it's
more than sure.

UnrealGaming · 12-10-2009, 10:41 | posts: 2,390 | Location: Serbia

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Originally Posted by kapu

WHY I get this feeling that we are closer and closer to permanent CPU bottleneck.

Since no game is using quads, and obviously GPUs are developing faster, actually much

faster than CPUs, and since we cant expect any big jump in graphics right now, i supsect

we will hit bottleneck soon , really hard, i'm talking here about 19x12 res, on lower it's
more than sure.

Well, maybe for some of the current games. But Q1 2010 is full of new releases. And they will probably use quads, some even dx11. And there will be some new graphics also, to torture the GPU even further. So I'm pretty sure that bottleneck wont be much of problem. Not talking about dual cores and 1280x1024 res ofcourse ...

dcx_badass · 12-10-2009, 10:59 | posts: 9,567 | Location: Leeds [UK]

That's a smile?

kapu · 12-10-2009, 11:26 | posts: 3,530 | Location: Poland

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Originally Posted by UnrealGaming

Well, maybe for some of the current games. But Q1 2010 is full of new releases. And they will probably use quads, some even dx11. And there will be some new graphics also, to torture the GPU even further. So I'm pretty sure that bottleneck wont be much of problem. Not talking about dual cores and 1280x1024 res ofcourse ...

They wont use quads, maybe one in a thousand games.
and like i said , new graphics arent coming because new console isnt coming.

Denial · *Last edited by Denial; 12-10-2009 at 11:46.*

Well most of the tasks that are loaded onto a CPU that actually gain a benefit from multiple cores all seem to be switching to the GPU. AI, Physics, etc, it can all be done on the GPU now due to OpenCL/CUDA/Compute. The rest of what the CPU does in games, doesn't really benefit from multiple cores anyway. I so don't necessarily see the CPU bottleneck becoming that large of an issue.

Also, while I'll definitely agree that at this time consoles generally hold the PC market back, there are ways around this. Scalability is becoming a very common trait among games and development environments. While it's not a very decent solution now, eventually when all the kinks get ironed out and SDK's improved - developers will easily be able to make games that scale from insane graphics on the PC, to average ones on the consoles, to sub average for mobile devices. I mean, that type of development is definitely being used even today - it's just not even close to being perfected. But it will be - because in the end it saves studios tons on having to develop multiple assets, engines, etc for each platform they decide to release on.

UnrealGaming · 12-10-2009, 12:10 | posts: 2,390 | Location: Serbia

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Originally Posted by kapu

They wont use quads, maybe one in a thousand games.
and like i said , new graphics arent coming because new console isnt coming.

Of course they will use quads. All major titles even now use quads. So, future ones definitely will. And also , ofcourse there is a new graphics. All the upcoming major titles I've seen have excellent graphics, and better then the previous games from their series or particular engine.

kapu · 12-10-2009, 12:24 | posts: 3,530 | Location: Poland

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Originally Posted by UnrealGaming

Of course they will use quads. All major titles even now use quads. So, future ones definitely will. And also , ofcourse there is a new graphics. All the upcoming major titles I've seen have excellent graphics, and better then the previous games from their series or particular engine.

All new titles? Tell me one , that isnt GTA IV.