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Radeon HD 5970 Single card and Crossfire review [Guru3D.com]
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Default Radeon HD 5970 Single card and Crossfire review [Guru3D.com] - 11-18-2009, 06:30 | posts: 6,462

It's time to unleash the beast welcome to a nice feature length review on the latest dual-GPU offering from ATI. What ATI did with the Radeon HD 5970 is to place two RV870 chips onto one PCB. Bridge...

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Default 11-18-2009, 06:33 | posts: 852 | Location: Tampa, Florida

great review..did u try any higher core clock at 1.3 or did u just go to 900 and stop?
either way card is definitely a beast.
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 06:35 | posts: 10,442 | Location: Toledo Ohio

Now we just need a cpu that keeps up with it. But good to see HIS not charging extra for the Iclear card. They wanted like $100 or so before on Newegg for it, when really it's not all that needed.

This is a very serious card though. To be honest, I expected it to be longer then 13in. Don't get me wrong, that's long, but not bad for what it is.

Would I pay that much for it? Not really, lol. But it's cheaper than buying 2 5870s and overclock them a tad.

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Default 11-18-2009, 06:41 | posts: 21,376 | Location: Guru3D testlab

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great review..did u try any higher core clock at 1.3 or did u just go to 900 and stop?
either way card is definitely a beast.
No -- 900 MHz seemed to be the max BUT I hardly had time to test any further and only tried one of the cards.

Both cards arrived like 24~36 hrs ago and given the timeframe and massive length of this article overclocking was done -- but not yet to the extent I wanted it to be.

You guys can expect a separate overclocking article actually.

Anyways, hope you guys enjoy the article -- this one was a lot of hard work and lack of sleep ..



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Would I pay that much for it? Not really, lol. But it's cheaper to buy 2 5870s and overclock them a tad.
Ehm huh -- explain that to me ? Two 5870'ies would cost you like 800 bucks right now, making the 5970 200 bucks cheaper + you can go quad-GPU in a later stage.


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Default 11-18-2009, 06:49 | posts: 654 | Location: Ontario, Canada

Great review! just in time before bed (Eastern time)

imo, these dual-GPU beasts begs to be watercooled and further OC.
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 06:50 | posts: 852 | Location: Tampa, Florida

yea the article was good especially given the amount of time to do it..appreciate your hard work. cant wait to see the overclocking article. i really want this card but wont be able to use the power until i get two more 24"s so i think ill get those first still then see whats going on..


one more thing..did you try to use eyefinity with the 5970..i went through about 10 reviews so far but skimming and only saw one that showed the 5970 doing eyefinity so im guessing the drivers are out for xfire + eyefinity or is that ONLy the 5970 that can do it and 2x5870's still wont?..any insight on that? thanks.
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 06:51 | posts: 10,442 | Location: Toledo Ohio

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Ehm huh -- explain that to me ? Two 5870'ies would cost you like 800 bucks right now, making the 5970 200 bucks cheaper + you can go quad-GPU in a later stage.
That's what I'm saying. The 5890 is cheaper then 2 5870s.

I'm saying if I had to choose the 2, the 5890 overclocked would easily be my choice. Also, edited my post to clear things up a bit. My mistake.
   
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oh also im very surprised with the quad scaling..very impressive imo.
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 06:53 | posts: 241 | Location: Australia

I wonder how much MORE powerful (if any) fermi will be? That is some insane power from the 5970!!

Looks like the GPUs are catching up with the CPUs again!

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Default 11-18-2009, 06:55 | posts: 10,442 | Location: Toledo Ohio

It depends on the actual fermi setup.

A single gpu solution, I highly doubt will reach $600. Maybe $500 at the most. Dual gpu solution, could be about $600-up.
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 07:12 | posts: 5,049 | Location: Washington State, USA

Eh, next-gen ATI not much better then last-gen nvidia, not surprising but dissapointing nontheless

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Default 11-18-2009, 07:20 | posts: 1,305

12"!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!


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Default 11-18-2009, 07:42 | posts: 394 | Location: Washington State

Where's Bodar when you need him!!! LOL! Good Review Hilbert!!
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 07:54 | posts: 4,876 | Location: South Dakota

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No -- 900 MHz seemed to be the max BUT I hardly had time to test any further and only tried one of the cards.

Both cards arrived like 24~36 hrs ago and given the timeframe and massive length of this article overclocking was done -- but not yet to the extent I wanted it to be.

You guys can expect a separate overclocking article actually.

Anyways, hope you guys enjoy the article -- this one was a lot of hard work and lack of sleep ..

Btw, anandtech couldn't get their cards to oc to 5870 levels and you got it beyond! Go go guru3d!

Btw, I am thoroughly impressed with the CF benchmarks of the 5970.
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 08:02 | posts: 264 | Location: New Zealand

damn my jaw hit the ground with some of them benchmarks I may have to rethink my build again!
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 08:15 | posts: 4,149

Those frame rates are absolutely sickening. So's the price but I'm sure AMD will slice its price when nvidia comes back.

Great job scoring the X-fire action there that's really going the extra mile.

I gotta get me a copy of this anno game I keep hearing about.
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 08:21 | posts: 704 | Location: The Frozen North.

Well, now Nvidia has something to shoot for for their 300-series dual-GPU card. Be interesting to see how that performs when it comes out next year.
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 08:42 | posts: 191 | Location: Uruguay (South America)

Terrific review as always Hilbert
Now, we really need GTA4 numbers for this beast Come on, we know you can do it
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 08:50 | posts: 696 | Location: Canada

good review, but I have one question...what kind of moniter do you use that can actually DISPLAY these 150+ fps that the card can display? it seems to me a small MINOR detail thats being left out..due to the fact that the majority of LCD's can ONLY display up to their max refresh rate, so what would be the point in purchasing a product like this when you can get max performance out of a card thats 1/3 the price? due to monitor limitations of course...there ARE of course some CRT's that can display 120 fps/Hz but they are usually $700+ or more, at least they used to be and then the new problem would be to even FIND a dealer that deals in CRT's anymore, as most places dont even offer them anymore...just a few things to consider when doing your video card reviews from here on in

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Default 11-18-2009, 10:03 | posts: 2,392 | Location: Scotland

Its basically two 5870's (a bit slower) in one card with a lower price tag, don't understand why anyone would have expected more after seeing the 5870.

Fermi will match or beat this if it is as good in real life as it looks on paper, but the price will be the deciding factor for me.
   
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good review, but I have one question...what kind of moniter do you use that can actually DISPLAY these 150+ fps that the card can display? it seems to me a small MINOR detail thats being left out..due to the fact that the majority of LCD's can ONLY display up to their max refresh rate, so what would be the point in purchasing a product like this when you can get max performance out of a card thats 1/3 the price? due to monitor limitations of course...there ARE of course some CRT's that can display 120 fps/Hz but they are usually $700+ or more, at least they used to be and then the new problem would be to even FIND a dealer that deals in CRT's anymore, as most places dont even offer them anymore...just a few things to consider when doing your video card reviews from here on in

As always, I enjoyed the review, but this point that Ive brought up, is valid
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Default 11-18-2009, 10:28 | posts: 199 | Location: San Francisco, CA

Great review. One question though, which software specifically did you use for the video trans-coding test. You described it, but never actually mentioned the name of the program. Maybe it was on purpose, just wondering. Thanks!
   
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Default 11-18-2009, 10:40 | posts: 8,084 | Location: UK

Hard to tell re this card atm untill perhaps some more tests are done with higher oc cpu but it looks like a beast.

Whilst it disappoints in some games several like cod modern warfare and res evil show the card working up to its near potential I think.

Also was that 13fps gained from overclocking it. wow!

It's a shame though they cant release a dual gpu that doesnt run quite as hot as 80c.

This card isnt for me. Am gonna stick to the 5870 which I think is the better option unless you have a setup over 4ghz and maybe into water-cooling. Then it's going to be a killer

You can expect performance to go up with better drivers although saying that whilst ati drivers have been a very pleasant surprise for me re the 5870 I dont see big improvements from say cat's 9.10 to 9.11. Time will tell.

Another great review, good spread of games used for us to see how it runs.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...56&subcat=1577

(519 in the Uk. Again i think Ati is overpricing 50 but with no nvidia who's 2 stop them).

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Default 11-18-2009, 10:43 | posts: 11,997 | Location: new jersey

great review boss just what i needed to read
i see you thuoght also that maybe it was going to be 500$ not 600$. with no other companys at the party what do we expect
very strange thuo when i finish reading your vga reviews,normally newegg has them forsale by the time i'm done reading.it could be maybe to early yet?

torn between 5850 cf and 5980
glenboy and a few others have the 5850 fly'in like a mother fo and even with volts its going to really take alot out of a 5980 card to run like that all the time .
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