Win 7 is newborn. Keep your XP first.

Australis · *Last edited by Australis; 11-03-2009 at 00:03.*

Unwise and reckless, I installed Windows 7 a couple of days after I bought it greedy for Direct X 10. Now, I can't say I was toasted but this is not the most brilliant action I've ever taken.

After shutting down the System Recovery (with the heavy background work), Windows 7 is actually as fast as XP for desktop work. I like one thing the most: Windows 7 is smart enough to organize files according to let's say names instantly. That means if you rename a file named "Z" to "A", the file will relocate in front of the file named "B" immediately when the change is saved. Moreover, no longer do we have to type "0" before "1" while naming files for the order to be correct (in XP: 1,10...19,2,20). These things may be insignificant but it sure does feel Microsoft'd looked at even these small matters and Windows 7's slogan "Designed for You" is not a lie.

As far as gaming goes, I installed Hitman Blood Money and it could not start running even on compatibility mode. I've just installed Resident Evil 5 (damn long time it took to install). We'll see about that.

The compatibility is not as good as Microsoft claimed, lots of programs from XP can't be installed here. So people shouldn't follow my footsteps too eagerly so soon. But I don't mind more white mouses joining the party (evil crackling laughters). After all, somebody has to take the fall and report the problems back to MS.

chris

i find win7 to run faster than xp and vista.

GabrielSans · 11-03-2009, 00:20 | posts: 238 | Location: Argentina | User is Offline

That's why I had/have always XP in double boot, just in case. For example, NOLF (No one lives forever) retail "doesn't run" on Windows 7. I never needed patches to run it but I will have to get them now to see if they solve the problem. Meanwhile, I installed it on XP and it runs like always, i.e. great.

I am still not testing Thief 2 (my beloved game!), but I could run into any issues probably. Let's see what happens.

Besides, there is another reason to have XP in double boot. It is related to security. Some malware (e.g. trojans) are practically impossible to delete (even if you use special software to delete them) from the OS they installed on. For example, suppose that a trojan installs on a file while you run Windows 7. Even after detecting it, you could easily have many problems to delete the file. Some times you come across with hard-to-delete files that are undetected trojans dormant deep in your drive. You want to delete them but you cannot. The simple solution is going to XP and delete them from there. Very smart! The same thing if the trojan gets installed on XP, you delete it easily from Windows 7.

So, to me having XP in the background is a MUST always.

Mr.Bigtime · *Last edited by Mr.Bigtime; 11-03-2009 at 01:12.*

hmm...man i just left my Vista 64 to Windows 7 64 and reading this..damn..i hope i wont get a problem after all :S..damn man why i left my ROCK SOLID Vİsta 64 anyway?

DSK · 11-03-2009, 01:02 | posts: 16,635 | Location: Scotland | User is Online

Win7 is far superior to xp IMO

live4life · 11-03-2009, 01:07 | posts: 1,508 | Location: Greece/Athens | User is Offline

win7 is best!!!!! than other vers but the drivers of companies seems to need more developing like CREATIVE that cant understand that win7 is at shops and still to release stable newer drivers.......anyway.......its not only this one but ok...some new staff of 7 is anoing like the live taskbar Thumbnails that u cant diasaable completely and the permitions like when u need to copy to other dir and needs to chage the owner and etc...maybe this is fo secure but so much is useless..overall it worth ever penny!

Kohlendioxidus · 11-03-2009, 01:07 | posts: 355 | Location: Germany | User is Offline

another reason to stay with my vista sp2

Mr.Bigtime · 11-03-2009, 01:13 | posts: 8,079 | Location: Turkey | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by Kohlendioxidus

another reason to stay with my vista sp2

this or not. Vista sp2 is enough for everything. i did my Vista to Windows 7 upgrade because my BOOT time was crazy long and it was getting slow u know. installed many applications bla bla bla.

Lacusmons · 11-03-2009, 01:52 | posts: 216 | Location: Sweden | User is Offline

No problems here with games. Works like a charm.

shadow70

the upgrade packs are not that good to get, as it is best to do a full formate and install or a new OS, so it stops any problems from occuring and also use latest drivers straight away, which is to also stop any problems from happening,

so really just buy the full version of windows 7, you will get what you are supposed to get, and very good running OS, and not as many problems if you used the upgrade packs.

quaker3 · 11-03-2009, 02:06 | posts: 252 | User is Offline

if someone tells win7 is superrior to winxp i think he is a troll.Doesnt he know win7 cant run so many games?

And only a troll can care about win7 being 1sec faster.Its sounds as that person was buying new os just to run 1sec faster.
Just buy faster pc or only OC your cpu.You will get your meaningless 1sec bonus.

Witcher · 11-03-2009, 02:13 | posts: 232 | User is Offline

Windows 7 is the best OS up to date in my opinion.

quaker3 · 11-03-2009, 02:15 | posts: 252 | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by Witcher

Windows 7 is the best OS up to date in my opinion.

whats the best about win7 beside that it cant run many games?
I demand a list.

uncleknacker · 11-03-2009, 02:17 | posts: 47 | Location: Sunderland, UK | User is Offline

Loving Windows 7. I can even get Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 working straight away in x64, and as long as I can get the BG series working then the OS is a winner to me.

DSK · 11-03-2009, 02:25 | posts: 16,635 | Location: Scotland | User is Online

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker3

whats the best about win7 beside that it cant run many games?
I demand a list.

It runs everything vista runs so.....

versus.at · 11-03-2009, 02:36 | posts: 5 | Location: Austria / Vienna | User is Offline

Loving Win 7 too! Way better speed as Vista and had no troubles with Games whatsoever yet .. useing it since early beta so iam kinda used to seven already i dont mind this new Taskbar thingy stuff

thumps up for 7 !

PS: Getting a 5870 soon to test dx 11 a little ... wonder whats the dx 11 perf. gonna be like!

Greetz

|vs|

Finchwizard

If games are having issues in Win7, they were probably having problems in Vista, and if that's the case, the game is probably too old anyway.

Unfortunately you just have to move on. Any new games are fine, same with programs.

RandyB · 11-03-2009, 03:13 | posts: 4,244 | Location: Canada | User is Offline

I haven't noticed any problems with Win7...first MS OS to just work 'right out of the box'! Why can't you just use the XP compatibility mode?

dshramek · *Last edited by dshramek; 11-03-2009 at 03:33.*

things in 7 that are better than XP:
Search function
Stability
GUI
Security
Memory handling
Optimized for SSD
Multi-core utilization
DX10/11
Networking
Set-up
Update Center finds almost EVERY driver needed(at least for initial use)
No need for Sata drivers on initial install(come on...are you serious?!!!)
How 7 /Vista handles driver failure( no bsod, just shuts down the problem driver or program)

And those are just off the top of my head...

oh...not to mention...It runs better on my netbook than XP did, which has such low specs it is not funny.

sykozis · 11-03-2009, 03:37 | posts: 3,627 | Location: USA | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by shadow70

the upgrade packs are not that good to get, as it is best to do a full formate and install or a new OS, so it stops any problems from occuring and also use latest drivers straight away, which is to also stop any problems from happening,

so really just buy the full version of windows 7, you will get what you are supposed to get, and very good running OS, and not as many problems if you used the upgrade packs.

If you're upgrading from Vista to Win7...and actually update your drivers and software....everything is already up to date. No need to install a new OS to get "up-to-date" drivers.

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Originally Posted by quaker3

if someone tells win7 is superrior to winxp i think he is a troll.Doesnt he know win7 cant run so many games?

And only a troll can care about win7 being 1sec faster.Its sounds as that person was buying new os just to run 1sec faster.
Just buy faster pc or only OC your cpu.You will get your meaningless 1sec bonus.

Some of us wanted the stability. After 8 years....I still have yet to see XP go more than a few weeks without a BSOD, random reboot, IE or explorer.exe crashing....

gamerk2 · 11-03-2009, 05:34 | posts: 1,026 | Location: Medford, NY | User is Offline

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Some of us wanted the stability. After 8 years....I still have yet to see XP go more than a few weeks without a BSOD, random reboot, IE or explorer.exe crashing....

Really? Its probably time to re-format then. XP is hard to crash, all things considered. The only real advantages i see beyond XP that I will ever need:
Numbering system: 2 finally comes before 19

Autodownload drivers

Really, mutlicore usage benchmarks (let along real world usage) shows minimal improvments, my SSD has apparently gotten slower (compared to Vista at least...), and I see no real change anywhere else. Heck, sleep mode takes a good 30-45 seconds now in 7, where it took <5 in Vista!

zer0_c0ol · 11-03-2009, 05:45 | posts: 628 | Location: mostar(BIH) | User is Offline

well i have two bad things in win 7: first old games does not support 5.1 in win 7

second creative drivers for audigy 2zs are soooo crippled form those in xp that it hurts

all in all win 7 works feels much better than xp in my case

zer0_c0ol · 11-03-2009, 05:45 | posts: 628 | Location: mostar(BIH) | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by quaker3

if someone tells win7 is superrior to winxp i think he is a troll.Doesnt he know win7 cant run so many games?

And only a troll can care about win7 being 1sec faster.Its sounds as that person was buying new os just to run 1sec faster.
Just buy faster pc or only OC your cpu.You will get your meaningless 1sec bonus.

and how much is xp old ?

chris

cant see myself going back to xp ever.

zer0_c0ol · 11-03-2009, 07:21 | posts: 628 | Location: mostar(BIH) | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris

cant see myself going back to xp ever.

me three

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