RivaTuner No Go With 195.39

Kow · *Last edited by Kow; 10-29-2009 at 12:44.*

FYI, RivaTuner crashes using the 195.39 drivers and Win7:

Code:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:	APPCRASH
  Application Name:	RivaTuner.exe
  Application Version:	2.24.1.0
  Application Timestamp:	4a9035c7
  Fault Module Name:	nvapi.dll_unloaded
  Fault Module Version:	0.0.0.0
  Fault Module Timestamp:	4ae7e547
  Exception Code:	c0000005
  Exception Offset:	100f8078
  OS Version:	6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
  Locale ID:	1033
  Additional Information 1:	0f31
  Additional Information 2:	0f3137665bbf0bb676c8a16f3fa76e52
  Additional Information 3:	528c
  Additional Information 4:	528cdd60f66595c4467daaf5510433eb

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Doing a clean install, this happens very quickly during database construction during first run.

UnclePappi · 10-30-2009, 21:28 | posts: 4,533 | Location: Toledo, Oh | User is Offline

also on vista 64 bit. crashes after the database is built.

TheHunter · 10-30-2009, 21:36 | posts: 4,417 | Location: | 宇宙|地球 | User is Offline

in win xp its fine with 195, i can oc change settings, etc...

in win7 is a no go, 187.6x crashes too. im using msi tuner for oc atm.

Öhr · **Memory**: 2x 2GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15

and i thought its my new graphics card fault... thank god it isnt!

P.S. 195.39 x64 on win7 pro with the same result

Deliverator · 10-31-2009, 14:00 | posts: 87 | Location: --- | User is Offline

I'd like to join in, Windows 7 Ultimate x64, MSI Master Overcocking Thing version of RivaTuner, crashes always no matter what I do.

Forcing driver version lower does nothing.
I get the same error report as the original poster.

The crash happens like this:
1. Crashes immediately when starting
or
2. RivaTuner runs fine doing nothing, but if it has to touch the drivers, for example hotkey profile activation, then it crashes

I sense a disturbance in the Force.

Deliverator · 10-31-2009, 14:06 | posts: 87 | Location: --- | User is Offline

Update: after a successful few minutes of non-crashing, I tried several panels in RivaTuner, monitoring worked fine, but when I entered the overclocking menu it crashed again.

After that, however, it threw this too: http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2789/captureq.jpg

Elite Knight · *Last edited by Elite Knight; 10-31-2009 at 15:30.*

I believe i found what might be making this issue as pointed in this image

Maybe the Display file is the problem. I'm going back to 191 because it dosent crash and also it allowes me to make my fan speed at 60% it gets hot here in aus.

Deliverator · 10-31-2009, 15:47 | posts: 87 | Location: --- | User is Offline

The display server reports itself as "191.07" instead of "Not Found" for me - happened before with older drivers too, I think.

But should it cause a crash? After all, nvapi.dll caused the problem, not nvdisps.dll.

Unwinder · 10-31-2009, 16:23 | posts: 8,034 | Location: Taganrog, Russia | User is Offline

Will download / install 195.xx and investigate the issue on the next week. Busy with different things right now, sorry.

boogieman · 10-31-2009, 18:10 | posts: 1,262 | Location: Pa | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unwinder

Will download / install 195.xx and investigate the issue on the next week. Busy with different things right now, sorry.

Noise about this all over the net. /build doesn't help.

Oh well they are beta.

Looking forward to your investigation cause I'd kinda like to give these a go myself.

burebista · 11-01-2009, 01:14 | posts: 995 | Location: Romania | User is Offline

Oh man, I'm relieved. I thought that I am dumb. I've installed this set with a clean install and even reinstalled Riva and I have this

Unwinder · 11-01-2009, 10:12 | posts: 8,034 | Location: Taganrog, Russia | User is Offline

Got some free time to peek into it today. Looks like since 195 series NVIDIA decided to make NVAPI.DLL as a static library for some reason, so attempt to load it on demand and unload when not needed causes it to crash now. Will bypass it by keeping NVAPI loaded all the time when 195 sereis are detected.

Deliverator · 11-01-2009, 12:47 | posts: 87 | Location: --- | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unwinder

Got some free time to peek into it today. Looks like since 195 series NVIDIA decided to make NVAPI.DLL as a static library for some reason, so attempt to load it on demand and unload when not needed causes it to crash now. Will bypass it by keeping NVAPI loaded all the time when 195 sereis are detected.

Great. You make it sound like it's easy.
I can't wait.

boogieman · 11-01-2009, 13:07 | posts: 1,262 | Location: Pa | User is Offline

Static. I thought DLL's, as you say, are dynamic. Interesting.

I haven't loaded them yet and probably won't unless this is Nv's new driver design.

Thanks for looking into this.

Brama · 11-04-2009, 00:53 | posts: 55 | Location: Milano - Italy | User is Offline

Thanks Unwinder, we are waiting anxiously :-)

franpa · *Last edited by franpa; 11-04-2009 at 07:48.*

I've not experienced a crash, but I have experienced no way to get the rivatuner driver working. It tells me that it needs to enable no driver signing and that needs rebooting, I click yes and it reboots. I go back in a lo' and behold, still says the driver isn't loaded :/

So I can't do anything with it let alone make it crash

(Win7 x64)

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edit: Yeah I didn't know you had to run that RTU file to install the x64 driver. Also the RTU file wasn't associated with Rivatuner after installing Rivatuner.

Yeah also getting the crash just like everyone else, joy.

Deliverator · 11-04-2009, 09:20 | posts: 87 | Location: --- | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by franpa

Yeah also getting the crash just like everyone else, joy.

Let's just wait like everyone else, then.

franpa · 11-04-2009, 19:10 | posts: 43 | Location: australia, brisbane | User is Offline

Of course, however I would like to point out the error saying to disable driver signing should be changed to tell people to run the RTU file ._.

Also, what does the "driver signing disable" feature actually change so that I can revert the settings it did if the Vista process isn't 100% compat. with Win7.

Deliverator · 11-04-2009, 22:20 | posts: 87 | Location: --- | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by franpa

Also, what does the "driver signing disable" feature actually change so that I can revert the settings it did if the Vista process isn't 100% compat. with Win7.

Don't disable it.

franpa · 11-05-2009, 03:37 | posts: 43 | Location: australia, brisbane | User is Offline

I did apply it but it didn't seem to do anything (I assume there's meant to be a watermark on the desktop). I would Still like to know what it changes in the registry etc.

I'm mostly after the Direct 3D tweaks this tool grants easy access to, if they can be enabled/tweaked manually does anyone know where to find the options and what settings are valid for them?

Deliverator · 11-09-2009, 18:01 | posts: 87 | Location: --- | User is Offline

At least all this waiting showed me that nTune (v6.05) isn't as buggy as before, and does a pretty good job, but it doesn't have RT's hotkey support that I need.

Franpa, if you want to specifically change Direct3D settings, use nHancer.

UnclePappi · 11-10-2009, 18:13 | posts: 4,533 | Location: Toledo, Oh | User is Offline

ntune used to lock my system up in the old days. Not too keen on trying it again

Deliverator · 11-10-2009, 23:20 | posts: 87 | Location: --- | User is Offline

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnclePappi

ntune used to lock my system up in the old days. Not too keen on trying it again

It locked up mine when I tried to "automatically" find maximum overclocks with it.
Just don't do that sort of thing.

Profiles were broken in the old days, now they work fine.
It allows you to set your clock speeds too low though, so pay attention with any power-saving profiles or you can crash your computer.

EarlZ · 11-12-2009, 02:21 | posts: 104 | User is Offline

I too have this problem but its a 50-50 load or crash when RT starts up... are there any other tools that i can temporarily use to apply overclocking settings?

Mineria · *Last edited by Mineria; 11-13-2009 at 10:24.*

For me on Windows 7 x64 Pro, RT does not crash with the 195.39 driver, but it happens that it doesn't load at startup.
Here is what I've found in the event log:

Code:

Faulting application name: RivaTuner.exe, version: 2.24.1.0, time stamp: 0x4a9035c7
Faulting module name: nvapi.dll_unloaded, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x4ae7fb8b
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x05c82dec
Faulting process id: 0x348
Faulting application start time: 0x01ca6328fa9faa90
Faulting application path: D:\RivaTuner\RivaTuner.exe
Faulting module path: nvapi.dll
Report Id: 445468b0-cf1c-11de-81d1-00235473d0a1

nvapi.dll does exist in both System32 and SysWOW64, I think that's the same location as with previous drivers.

PS.
Path for nvdisps.dll changed to C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Display, copying it to either RT's folder or C:\Windows\System32 fixes the issue that it isn't displayed in RT.

EDIT: didn't see Unwinders post and tells he already knows where the issues are, before posting this.