Would i get a higher framerate for crysis WH if i changed my cpu?

death_samurai

Would i expect to see improvments in framerates if i changed to a quad?

How about i7?

DSK · 10-26-2009, 21:22 | posts: 16,635 | Location: Scotland | User is Online

Yes there should be a big improvment how much on the other hand who knows.

nav-jack · 10-26-2009, 21:34 | posts: 116 | Location: Avondale, AZ | User is Offline

warhead has been hard on me too. i just am not going to attempt playing it.

Vector · 10-27-2009, 07:39 | posts: 1,170 | Location: right here | User is Offline

faster cpu and faster system memory

TheHunter · 10-27-2009, 07:45 | posts: 4,417 | Location: | 宇宙|地球 | User is Offline

lol a c2d @ 4ghz is enough,. You would need a better gpu though.

DSK · 10-27-2009, 07:58 | posts: 16,635 | Location: Scotland | User is Online

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Originally Posted by TheHunter

lol a c2d @ 4ghz is enough,. You would need a better gpu though.

Its really not enough.

to drive 3 gpus.

eclap · 10-27-2009, 08:49 | posts: 8,824 | Location: UK | User is Offline

You'd probably gain up to 5 fps if you're lucky. More likely less. Not worth it..

Peezee · *Last edited by Peezee; 10-27-2009 at 09:14.*

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Originally Posted by Vector

faster cpu and faster system memory

Man, that system memory thing is absolute BS, it's way overrated how "much" it does to step-up.
My friend just went from 3GB DDR2-533 to 6GB DDR3-1333, and guess which improvement that made?

Nothing. In-game, going from a Q9450 to an i7 920, and that huge jump in memory, did nothing. Because even the Q9450 wasn't reaching full capacity in games, and memory speed doesn't have to be that amazing. Sure, it'll do a difference - you just can't always feel it. At all.

To the OP: getting a quad will be much more future-proof than what you have now.
Sure, an i7 or whatever is better (and more expensive, as you have to get a new mobo and RAM), but we're not even close to getting to the point where a Q9550 (for an example) is used to it's full capacity in games...

I also saw a huge improvement in the number of hitches or micro-stutter I had in games over my E4500 @ 3.2, but I think that may have been going from 2 to 12mb L2 cache, and not the extra cores. But who knows.

death_samurai · 10-27-2009, 09:16 | posts: 1,930 | Location: SG | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by TheHunter

lol a c2d @ 4ghz is enough,. You would need a better gpu though.

well i have 3 gpus in xfire.

U mean get 5000 series.

death_samurai · 10-27-2009, 09:22 | posts: 1,930 | Location: SG | User is Offline

My scores not too bad but it loses out to ppl with nvidia 285 in sli with an i7

The problem is i cannot compare with someone with the same type of cpu as mine.

Here's my scores max res 0 AA

With 9.11 drivers

With max res and 8x AA

RKOver · 10-27-2009, 09:24 | posts: 1,928 | Location: Oakham, UK | User is Offline

I'd keep with what you currently have but no doubt you'll get a quad anyway. If you do get a quad, get a Q9550 E0.

death_samurai · 10-27-2009, 09:26 | posts: 1,930 | Location: SG | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by RKOver

I'd keep with what you currently have but no doubt you'll get a quad anyway. If you do get a quad, get a Q9550 E0.

That quad Q9550 looks pretty cheap nowadays i wonder why didn't i buy it last year when i got this c2d last year around october.

shoja · 10-27-2009, 09:29 | posts: 328 | Location: USA | User is Offline

I finished crysis warhead with the specs I have right now and I enjoyed every minute of it without noticing lag or whatsoever. I am not sure what was the fps tho..... but I believe my spec is perfect to play crysis at 1680x1050 with every thing maxed out and of course no AA.

I havent oced my cpu yet cuz I dont have the fan to keep it cool.

Tiger253 · **Memory**: 2x2GB 944MHz 4-4-4-12

the core i7 handles multi-gpu scaling better

is it worth it for just one game though

RKOver · 10-27-2009, 09:34 | posts: 1,928 | Location: Oakham, UK | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by death_samurai

That quad Q9550 looks pretty cheap nowadays i wonder why didn't i buy it last year when i got this c2d last year around october.

Yeah, I owned a Q9550 literally 3 weeks ago then upgraded to my i7 but the Q9550 I had was the C1 stepping so the overclocking wasn't as good as I'd wanted but I had it at 3.7GHz using 1.36v but anything higher then that, it needed 1.4v+ to get even 3.8GHz which I hated so I kept it at 3.7GHz. Not a bad chip though but I wanted 4GHz on it

death_samurai · 10-27-2009, 09:47 | posts: 1,930 | Location: SG | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by RKOver

Yeah, I owned a Q9550 literally 3 weeks ago then upgraded to my i7 but the Q9550 I had was the C1 stepping so the overclocking wasn't as good as I'd wanted but I had it at 3.7GHz using 1.36v but anything higher then that, it needed 1.4v+ to get even 3.8GHz which I hated so I kept it at 3.7GHz. Not a bad chip though but I wanted 4GHz on it

Can u bench crysis WH hopefully at 1920 x 1200 0 AA, enthu settings?

IPlayNaked · 10-27-2009, 11:16 | posts: 1,273 | User is Offline

Well, considering how poorly Crysis scales in Crossfire, this is to be expected. I'm not sure how it works in tri-fire, but can you use one of the cards to apply SuperAA and run the game on the other two? Surely you would get better results if that is possible.

death_samurai · 10-27-2009, 13:36 | posts: 1,930 | Location: SG | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by IPlayNaked

Well, considering how poorly Crysis scales in Crossfire, this is to be expected. I'm not sure how it works in tri-fire, but can you use one of the cards to apply SuperAA and run the game on the other two? Surely you would get better results if that is possible.

What are u talking about?

How is that possible? Don't u know the cards are all cloned when in sli or xfire.

shimyns · 10-27-2009, 14:34 | posts: 491 | Location: behind your mom | User is Offline

Man, warhead runs great on my rig @1900x 1200 0AA. I really don't understand why you would ever want to upgrade just for a benchmark. You have a great system.
And someone telling you you need to upgrade your GPU is just bull sh*t 'cause 4870x2 + 4870 is enough POWER to launch a rocket.

IMO, save your money till you really need to upgrade. You'll need to get a new mobo and RAM...not worth it. And when you DO need to upgrade, whatever you want to buy today will cost a lot less.

On the other hand, if it is all about endulging in your hobby, go for it.

IPlayNaked · 10-27-2009, 15:02 | posts: 1,273 | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by death_samurai

What are u talking about?

How is that possible? Don't u know the cards are all cloned when in sli or xfire.

The driver has a SuperAA mode. This is why if crossfire is enabled, you have up to x16 AA available, whereas you normally (with one card) only have 8x AA available.

Essentially what it does is to have one card render the image, and the other apply massive amounts of AA to it. I use it for games that don't scale well with CF. Crysis being the example. I can run Crysis at around 20-30 FPS at my custom pseudo-enthusiast settings with 4x AA or I can do it with SuperAA at x16 AA at around 20-30 FPS. I'm not sure how it works in tri-fire, but it seems to me this would be the best tradeoff available to you.

Copey · 10-27-2009, 17:26 | posts: 9,227 | Location: U.K | User is Offline

Crysis is way more GPU dependant than CPU, it doesnt use quads that well either, theres not need i dont think.

RKOver · 10-27-2009, 17:37 | posts: 1,928 | Location: Oakham, UK | User is Offline

My max resolution is 1680x1050. I can run the benchmark at that?

death_samurai · 10-27-2009, 22:34 | posts: 1,930 | Location: SG | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by IPlayNaked

The driver has a SuperAA mode. This is why if crossfire is enabled, you have up to x16 AA available, whereas you normally (with one card) only have 8x AA available.

Essentially what it does is to have one card render the image, and the other apply massive amounts of AA to it. I use it for games that don't scale well with CF. Crysis being the example. I can run Crysis at around 20-30 FPS at my custom pseudo-enthusiast settings with 4x AA or I can do it with SuperAA at x16 AA at around 20-30 FPS. I'm not sure how it works in tri-fire, but it seems to me this would be the best tradeoff available to you.

u can do this with your 5770 x2 alone?

I don't know how to do this. What option do i go to under CCC?

twtaylor · 10-28-2009, 01:06 | posts: 2,337 | Location: Barrie, ON Canada | User is Offline

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Originally Posted by death_samurai

My scores not too bad but it loses out to ppl with nvidia 285 in sli with an i7

The problem is i cannot compare with someone with the same type of cpu as mine.

Here's my scores max res 0 AA

Nothing at all wrong with those benches, it's about what I get at 16x10 on my setup. I don't really notice any slowdown playing the game or at least not very often.

ibitato · **Memory**: 4x2GB@1080 5.5.5.15 5:6

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Originally Posted by IPlayNaked

The driver has a SuperAA mode. This is why if crossfire is enabled, you have up to x16 AA available, whereas you normally (with one card) only have 8x AA available.

Essentially what it does is to have one card render the image, and the other apply massive amounts of AA to it. I use it for games that don't scale well with CF. Crysis being the example. I can run Crysis at around 20-30 FPS at my custom pseudo-enthusiast settings with 4x AA or I can do it with SuperAA at x16 AA at around 20-30 FPS. I'm not sure how it works in tri-fire, but it seems to me this would be the best tradeoff available to you.

16xAA on some games (crossfire profile) disables 3rd. GPU. Don't know if Crysis it's the case (more than 2xAA kills the game, imo) but I've tested many games, and if I select up to 8xAA all GPUS are used, if I go to 16xAA only 2 are used.

What it gets duplicated among cards, it's VRAM; since all of them need the same info to work; that's why you only get 1GB of VRAM (or the lower amount of all cards you have)....